9 year old boy commits suicide, videogames to blame....really?

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Pegghead

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It takes quite alot for a person to KILL THEMSELVES! And I doubt playing a few violent video games (The modern day equivalent of every single violent pass-time that has kept boys on the straight and narrow since the dawn of time) would cause a nine year old to KILL THEMSELVES!
 

HeDarra

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$20 says the kid didn't even play anything that violent...or, the better money goes to the fact that his idiot parents bought the games for him and let him play....if the games were to blame. But it's most likely that he just had a shit home life. This is up there with Jack Thompson saying that video games caused a triple homicide and suicide because there was an Xbox in the room. (There was an NFL disk in that particular Xbox.)
 
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Guys. This 'Doctor' was on Oprah. Do you honestly think that she has a brain? Look at that video of Tom Cruise freaking out. I rest my case.
 

likalaruku

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Normally a 9 year old wouldn;t know about things like depression, hanging, or even believe that anyone outside himself was real & could feel (or was that just me as a child?)

Anyway, where does a kid that young learn about hanging? I'd wager the root of the problem lies therein.
 

SonicKoala

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I don't see how violent videogames would lead a child to believe that he should kill HIMSELF. First they're going on about how these games are breeding little murderers, but apparently now they're the cause of SUICIDE as well? How the hell does that work? Even if you're playing stuff like call of duty all the time, when does the idea "hm, I should kill myself" ever enter into one's head?
 

Caligulove

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Like with all of these situations, and nearly every situation... theres more than one thing involved in the end result.

If the video games were involved, they were anything but the sole reason for the suicide. I think that there would be problems at home in the family and at school as well. The last thing that I would consider was just that he was messed up in the head already. I think that a lot of peoples behavior is influenced by their surroundings and experiences rather than from the beginning
 

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Good job Doctor Wade, you have just joined what we on the Escapist call the "Bible-Bashing" club.
 

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imahobbit4062 said:
So games made the kid lock himself in a bathroom to hang himself?
Riiiiiiiiiiiiiight.
Tragic, I know. We, as a community, need to rally up against these videogames that feature characters that horrendously hang themselves. There are too many violent video games out there that feature suicide.
 

chronobreak

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Maybe, sometimes, it is the video games. Let's not act like it is completely out of the question in an incredibly impressional mind. Certainly not anywhere near the majority of time, but who's to say games can be completely blameless as the occasional accomplish?

I would always fault the person first rather than the medium, but of course, in some people, games and gaming could be a significant factor.
 

Mr.Squishy

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Seems logical. Now we need to recall all copies of dangerous, murder-inducing games like Myst or the monkey island games or bejeweled!
 

asam92

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If videogames are killing people then, there would be no Gen Y, and for that fact not much Gen X either
 

Sir Mate

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Well, tell me ONE thing that hasnt been blamed on
"Viollent Video Games"

My ass, so there was everything alrigth , sunshine, flowers ,than BAM!, he hung himself?
Geez, he must have been acting weirdly, and they could have noticed that
 

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ChromeAlchemist said:
The thing is, there is no actual way of pinning this child's actions (while a tragedy indeed) to video games directly, and yet she pretty much did just that.

Bear in mind I'm from the UK, but what is it with American media and scapegoating (though bear in mind the Daily Mail is just as bad here, but it's print media only)?

But I digress, what are your thoughts on this?
Quite honestly what I've seen of our "great media" here in America is a lot of families, and more often a lot of adults that grew up in the days of Arcades being shadily run outlets with crappy food and kids throwing quarters at big booths have become the authority of the day. They're not used to the idea of the kind of media kids are exposed to, and since times have changed SO much since their day, they've no frame of reference personally for whether or not a child or anyone else could deal with this kind of information.

The evidence is everywhere. Look at any school shooting, under age suicide, hell sometimes even statutory rape can be blamed on it (local news covered a case like that once, but it was thrown out a day later when it turned out the gaming bit was a lie . . . thank you "honest reporter"). These adults don't have the same mindset as the younger generation because to them video games were ALWAYS something out of their world. Something someone else made for another group.

So they do what they think is right, ignore learning about it because it's too complicated to understand and blame it because it's a scary complicated thing they can't wrap their head around.

Because they can't frame it in their mind, or understand it, they don't want to. They are more then willing to try and get rid of it, but not necessarily for the spoken reason. The spoken reason is to try and grab the people that DO think about this, and wonder if they should bother to understand. Give them enough info that they thing they DO understand, and they'll believe it to the day they die (see also "the call of duty/counterstrike/Halo effect") it's all domino ed from someone not wanting to understand it, and still wanting to understand why a crime happened.

It would be similar I think, if there was a new faith that cropped up, a small group that's very close knit very openly advocates this new faith, a few years later it grows MUCH larger, but every once in a while one of the people int hat faith murder someone, or commit suicide, the people that were around before it, and don't want to understand it will blame it ON the faith. Even though they lack the information to accurately cement their claim.

It's exactly what we see every time someone blames a suicide, murder, rape what have you on video games. People without enough information assuming they know the whole story. This child in Texas, I'd ask if he even DID play video games before letting this psychologist go on about how damaging they are. And if the answer is "well, we don't have that information" then they're not allowed to call that a factor. You can't cite evidence you don't have.
 

Mikkaddo

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sir mate said:
Well, tell me ONE thing that hasn't been blamed on
"Viollent Video Games"

My ass, so there was everything alright , sunshine, flowers ,than BAM!, he hung himself?
Geez, he must have been acting weirdly, and they could have noticed that
that's my question, what exactly was this kid doing in the time leading up to the suicide . . . I seriously doubt he was doing a session of Pokemon during Recess and figured life wasn't worth it when he couldn't get a shiny Drifloon . . .

chronobreak said:
Maybe, sometimes, it is the video games. Let's not act like it is completely out of the question in an incredibly impressional mind. Certainly not anywhere near the majority of time, but who's to say games can be completely blameless as the occasional accomplish?

I would always fault the person first rather than the medium, but of course, in some people, games and gaming could be a significant factor.
They certainly can be a factor sometimes, but even if the games ARE a factor it's not games in general that are putting the ideas into the head. Let's assume video games drove someone to hang themselves, is it all that likely that they were a perfectly normal person up to the day they started playing this game? not very likely . . . even if games are a factor, you STILL have to look at the person them self first. There's a good chance the person that was effected that much by a game had mental factors leading them toward suicide before they ever picked up that controller.