A certain scene in Prometheus [MAJOR SPOILERS]

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fireaura08 said:
If you guys saw it, you know the one I'm talking about. For the record, it is the scene where Shaw performs a very bloody abortion on that tentacle squid baby thing. Was anyone else as disturbed by it as I was? Part of it may be because I'm a girl (and that was enough to make me swear off children) but apparently an Australian teen got a seizure from watching it. Poor plot/dialogue aside, this was the one thing that really bugged me. Your reactions? I would like to see the male point of view as well.
Well, it was disturbing, but I've seen worse, however I did think that it would be many times more disturbing to a female audience. I watched it with two female friends, and they seemed quite shaken by the whole thing.

I'll say this though, the scene cemented the character as a badass. You'd think most people, upon finding they're impossibly three months pregnant with a baby of unknown species, would panic beyond the point of any sort of logic. Typical female horror characters would most likely cry and act useless until the alien feotus tears its way out. Not Shaw. She went, "F*** this shit, I'll go get this thing cut out my damn self! Oh what, the machine's meant for male patients? Oh well, I'll go for the next closest operation, whilst anethatising myself!" And after this experience, she goes on to kick the ass of an extremely powerful alien, AND THEN, forgoes her chance of going home to instead march right up to said alien's doorstep and demand answers. Hard. F***ing. Core.

Personally, the scene where the two geologists trapped in the ship die was the most disturbing. It was just outright nasty. Also, it made me draw a comparison. Prometheus is like silent hill homecoming. Only with effort. The sexual imagery that influenced the alien design was there in full force, almost as if someone had seen it in the original alien and said "hey, we should put that kinda thing in.

The worm comes out of the slime looking like a, well, penis. Then it's "mouth" folds out into a shape not dissimiliar to a human pelvis with a vagina-mouth thing in the centre, at which point it attacks, breaking the dudes arm before traveling down his throat.

Not sure what it means, besides the obvious male rape comparison, but effort and creativity was put into it, and above all, it was...unpleasant, to say the least. Unlike homecoming in which they just said "silent hill? That's the thing with the triangle dude isn't it? Well we have to put him in it!"
 

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Just saw the movie yesterday. I wouldn't consider it an abortion. It was a cesarean section and the alien wasn't even killed in the process. It grew pretty damn big by the end of the movie too.

As for the making people sick thing, I suppose I can understand why it would make people feel uncomfortable. I personally wasn't really bothered by it in the long run, but it was a freaky moment. Hell I found it freakier where she had to lay in the chamber with the thing writhing around as it slowly patched her up and opened.
 

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You should all totally watch A l'interieur (Inside). It's pretty much about a woman cutting a baby out of another woman with a pair of scissors, lol.


The pregnant woman becomes too weak to move from dramatic blood loss. She collapses and goes into labor. Another woman slowly cuts her stomach open with a pair of scissors and puts her hands into the mother's womb, trying remove the child. The victim weeps and screams in pain and calls for her mother throughout.

So morbidly awesome ^^
 

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It was an explicit scene to be sure. But it felt in-line with the tone of the movie.

AngloDoom said:
Personally the part that got me was how spry she was considering she just had her stomach operated on: she's running about for quite a while afterwards as if I didn't happen and even bangs her stomach after a large jumping fall and then just climbs up without even holding her side.

I mean, occasionally brushing your stomach as if you have a stitch doesn't show the pain of surgery in a very realistic fashion.
You didn't notice the syringes she was shooting like a heroine addict? Imagine it a pretty nifty painkiller, and she was closed up pretty good. It's sci-fi, so it's totally legit. They at least made her take something, and not just run off.
 

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I actually thought it was a pretty clever scene. I hadn't though to use the medical thing for a removal of the (obviously inevitable) xeno morph-i-tizing that people would incur.

Wasn't really disturbed, either. It didn't really show too much aside from an umbilical cord and some pink cake near the edges of her incision, after all.
 

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Well due to the horrific plot holes I wasn't really immersed so that scene made me facepalm more then anything, it was just such a bad setup.
First it's the whole super high tech automated operating table, but wait there is a whole gender missing in it's database... right, then the woman shoots up on painkillers like 5 times and the robot table gives her extra anesthetics and she still screams her lungs out... boy those future painkillers got crappy, and the super high tech operating table cuts her open and pulls out the squid with a fucking crane... sorry but was this table programmed for humans or a scrap yard, and what possible combination of that DNA could spawn a fucking squid, and if she is so afraid of it why does the just idly wait in there holding an enormous needle, and later on she is hardly even upset that they all left her to die, doesn't even mention it to people who don't know...

I really wish they spent some of that massive CG budget on half decent writers.
These were my exact thoughts. Hard to be disturbed when you're just disappointed.
 

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Ironically I'm seeing people complaining

"NO way could she have recovered so fast even with all those painkillers!"

and

"NO way could she have been in that much pain with all those painkillers!"
 

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fireaura08 said:
If you guys saw it, you know the one I'm talking about. For the record, it is the scene where Shaw performs a very bloody abortion on that tentacle squid baby thing. Was anyone else as disturbed by it as I was? Part of it may be because I'm a girl (and that was enough to make me swear off children) but apparently an Australian teen got a seizure from watching it. Poor plot/dialogue aside, this was the one thing that really bugged me. Your reactions? I would like to see the male point of view as well.
SPOILERS OBVIOUSLY SO READ AT YOUR OWN RISK.

It was quite creepy. It really wasnt anything else than a drawn out version of the regular alien birth, but yeah. A bit disturbing.

That said it was even more disturbing when she just walked away like nothing had happened, and WAY worse than that again when she stumbled bloody and forlorn into the offices of the old mr. Weyland and everyone just shrugged and seemed to treat her more or less as normal. What-the-hell.
 

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MetalMagpie said:
Back in the early days of films, one cinema showed a film that contained a shot of a train passing through a station. The camera had been placed quite close to the edge of the platform, which meant that the train was almost travelling directly towards it. When that piece of footage first ran on the big cinema screen, people literally climbed over the backs of their seats to escape.

A piece of black-and-white footage with no sound of a train not quite coming towards the screen was enough to cause panic in a cinema.

People have got more used to cinema over time. These days, we're far more used to separating what we see on a screen from reality, which makes us harder to scare or shock. I can completely believe that when the first Alien came out in 1979, the majority of the audience had never seen anything like it before.
Hell, back when Psycho came out women were fleeing the theaters saying how they couldn't believe something like this could be shown to the public. I can't imagine showing a modern horror movie to a 1960s audience.

OT: I definitely thought it was the creepiest scene in the whole movie. The giant staplers were a little goofy looking, but overall I couldn't find much to complain about.
 

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I found it funny that the machine could perform the operation, but couldn't sedate or anethetise her.

Captcha: Cut and Run.... Fuck me, is The Escapist clairvoyant?
 

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I'm female and that scene is a pretty good metaphor for how I see all pregnancy in general. That said, I thought it was pretty awesome, since she was smart and tough enough to actually survive it.

Clearing the Eye said:
imnotparanoid said:
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I felt a mixture of guilt for laughing at her for weeks after and sad for laughing at her for weeks after XD
Dude, I watched that movie the day after I had major surgery on my wrist and had it in a giant above-the-elbow cast, while loopy on hydrocodone. I could FEEL THAT SHIT.
 

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Chemical Alia said:
I'm female and that scene is a pretty good metaphor for how I see all pregnancy in general. That said, I thought it was pretty awesome, since she was smart and tough enough to actually survive it.

Clearing the Eye said:
imnotparanoid said:
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I felt a mixture of guilt for laughing at her for weeks after and sad for laughing at her for weeks after XD
Dude, I watched that movie the day after I had major surgery on my wrist and had it in a giant above-the-elbow cast, while loopy on hydrocodone. I could FEEL THAT SHIT.
I bet it made for an interesting viewing experience ;P
 

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tzimize said:
That said it was even more disturbing when she just walked away like nothing had happened, and WAY worse than that again when she stumbled bloody and forlorn into the offices of the old mr. Weyland and everyone just shrugged and seemed to treat her more or less as normal. What-the-hell.
Exactly my thoughts.
Also, I may be wrong but aren't people supposed to lie down, rest and heal after C-section, instead of running, jumping and fighting aliens ? o_O
 

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endnuen said:
It was an explicit scene to be sure. But it felt in-line with the tone of the movie.

AngloDoom said:
Personally the part that got me was how spry she was considering she just had her stomach operated on: she's running about for quite a while afterwards as if I didn't happen and even bangs her stomach after a large jumping fall and then just climbs up without even holding her side.

I mean, occasionally brushing your stomach as if you have a stitch doesn't show the pain of surgery in a very realistic fashion.
You didn't notice the syringes she was shooting like a heroine addict? Imagine it a pretty nifty painkiller, and she was closed up pretty good. It's sci-fi, so it's totally legit. They at least made her take something, and not just run off.
I did notice, but she seemed to require one about every ten minutes at first, then she goes for a couple of hours without using one. It's probably some ridiculously effective painkiller, but around the beginning and middle when she was injecting them she was limping about and clutching door-frames, then later she's jumping about all over the place with less strain than if she was going for a quick jog in the park.

That said, it'd be a pretty boring film if she just sat there recovering for a week while shit was going down, so I understand the necessity. It was just the fact she seemed more physically capable after the surgery. Either way, whatever she was injecting, I want it. =D
 

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I just thought it was trying too hard to recreate the chestburster scene. Didn't bother me in the slightest watching it, I just thought it was a bit lame. There again I apparantly seem to be in the minority as far as Prometheus goes as I thought the whole movie was shit, so take my opinion as you will.
 

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I was mostly disturbed that they checked up on the monster thing. The way I thought it would turn out would resolve it to being actually called a prequel.
 

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Not really an abortion, it didn't die and it's a parasite not human. It wasn't that horrible, random torture is worse I think due to lack of context and you know not life saving parasite removal.
 

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I actually nearly got sick during that scene, which surprised me because I'm usually jaded by gore in movies and games, but this was rather... graphic. I had to step out for a few minutes lest I show everyone in the theater EXACTLY what I had for lunch and what state of digestion it was in.
 

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Well it was rather disgusting and all, but the only effect it had on me afterward is a fear of pregnancy-related matters. And I'm a guy.
 

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Clearing the Eye said:
You should never, ever watch Lake of Fire, then. It's actually a pretty good documentary, but you straight up watch two abortions take place and examine the infant's body parts in close detail.
Well shit, now I have to go watch it.