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Aries_Split

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Shivari post=18.72058.748694 said:
Sardonic post=18.72058.748681 said:
Shivari post=18.72058.747764 said:
Is it better to be remembered for horrible things or be completely forgotten?
Wow... Shivari, I'm gonna remember you for that quote. That's perfect. And see how easy it is, guys? Someone I've never met before, who I've ever seen, or who's voice I've ever even heard, I will now remember, at least for a while. So much as a sentence can get you remembered by someone you've never met. I know that isn't what you're looking for, Aries_Split, but keep in mind, you affect other people more than you, and sometimes even they, realize.
Sweet, I just affected someone's life.

Go me!
That's at least ten achievement points.

Back on topic: I'm wary of entering the quantum physics thing going on here, since I was shit all terrible at them in high school. but from what I'm seeing, I shouldn't fear non existing, because it's impossible, since everything that's going to happen, has already happened!. Ow. that hurt my brains.
 

Ares Tyr

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My life's goal is to be made immortal in the mind of mankind, actually. So I suppose we kinda share that. I don't want to die forgotten forever. I want to be remembered as someone great who contributed something great to society, or accomplished something great.
 

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Ares Tyr post=18.72058.748717 said:
My life's goal is to be made immortal in the mind of mankind, actually. So I suppose we kinda share that. I don't want to die forgotten forever. I want to be remembered as someone great who contributed something great to society, or accomplished something great.
You should beat up Sylvester Stalone.
 

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Aries_Split post=18.72058.748720 said:
Ares Tyr post=18.72058.748717 said:
My life's goal is to be made immortal in the mind of mankind, actually. So I suppose we kinda share that. I don't want to die forgotten forever. I want to be remembered as someone great who contributed something great to society, or accomplished something great.
You should beat up Sylvester Stalone.
Or Batman. Or Sylvester Stallone dressed as Batman.
 

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meatloaf231 post=18.72058.748731 said:
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Ares Tyr post=18.72058.748717 said:
My life's goal is to be made immortal in the mind of mankind, actually. So I suppose we kinda share that. I don't want to die forgotten forever. I want to be remembered as someone great who contributed something great to society, or accomplished something great.
You should beat up Sylvester Stalone.
Or Batman. Or Sylvester Stallone dressed as Batman.
GENIUS!
 

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Aries_Split post=18.72058.748734 said:
meatloaf231 post=18.72058.748731 said:
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Ares Tyr post=18.72058.748717 said:
My life's goal is to be made immortal in the mind of mankind, actually. So I suppose we kinda share that. I don't want to die forgotten forever. I want to be remembered as someone great who contributed something great to society, or accomplished something great.
You should beat up Sylvester Stalone.
Or Batman. Or Sylvester Stallone dressed as Batman.
GENIUS!

That sounds crazy enough to work!

(Even though beating up a 60 year old man in a rubber suit doesn't sound to hard on paper...)
 

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Ares Tyr post=18.72058.748756 said:
Aries_Split post=18.72058.748734 said:
meatloaf231 post=18.72058.748731 said:
Aries_Split post=18.72058.748720 said:
Ares Tyr post=18.72058.748717 said:
My life's goal is to be made immortal in the mind of mankind, actually. So I suppose we kinda share that. I don't want to die forgotten forever. I want to be remembered as someone great who contributed something great to society, or accomplished something great.
You should beat up Sylvester Stalone.
Or Batman. Or Sylvester Stallone dressed as Batman.
GENIUS!

That sounds crazy enough to work!

(Even though beating up a 60 year old man in a rubber suit doesn't sound to hard on paper...)
It's more about the symbolism. Maybe Bruce Lee dressed as Batman would be more to your taste in challenge...
 

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meatloaf231 post=18.72058.748762 said:
Ares Tyr post=18.72058.748756 said:
Aries_Split post=18.72058.748734 said:
meatloaf231 post=18.72058.748731 said:
Aries_Split post=18.72058.748720 said:
Ares Tyr post=18.72058.748717 said:
My life's goal is to be made immortal in the mind of mankind, actually. So I suppose we kinda share that. I don't want to die forgotten forever. I want to be remembered as someone great who contributed something great to society, or accomplished something great.
You should beat up Sylvester Stalone.
Or Batman. Or Sylvester Stallone dressed as Batman.
GENIUS!

That sounds crazy enough to work!

(Even though beating up a 60 year old man in a rubber suit doesn't sound to hard on paper...)
It's more about the symbolism. Maybe Bruce Lee dressed as Batman would be more to your taste in challenge...
Challenge? More like impossibility. His corpse could beat me up, I don't even want to think about what he could do to me alive.
 

meatloaf231

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Ares Tyr post=18.72058.748764 said:
meatloaf231 post=18.72058.748762 said:
Ares Tyr post=18.72058.748756 said:
Aries_Split post=18.72058.748734 said:
meatloaf231 post=18.72058.748731 said:
Aries_Split post=18.72058.748720 said:
Ares Tyr post=18.72058.748717 said:
My life's goal is to be made immortal in the mind of mankind, actually. So I suppose we kinda share that. I don't want to die forgotten forever. I want to be remembered as someone great who contributed something great to society, or accomplished something great.
You should beat up Sylvester Stalone.
Or Batman. Or Sylvester Stallone dressed as Batman.
GENIUS!

That sounds crazy enough to work!

(Even though beating up a 60 year old man in a rubber suit doesn't sound to hard on paper...)
It's more about the symbolism. Maybe Bruce Lee dressed as Batman would be more to your taste in challenge...
Challenge? More like impossibility. His corpse could beat me up, I don't even want to think about what he could do to me alive.
Well, you would be remembered forever as The Guy Who Got Horribly Beaten By Bruce Lee In A Batman Suit.

The whole point was to be remembered, right?
 

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Razzle Bathbone post=18.72058.748546 said:
If you want to exist forever, don't worry. You do. Here's how it works.

Mathematically, space and time are the same thing. Structurally there's no difference. An object's (or person's) duration is no more or less significant than its height or width or depth.

As three-dimensional beings, we cannot perceive any more than one single instant of time. We can imagine or remember other instants, but we can't perceive them directly. However, that doesn't mean those moments aren't still there. The world doesn't turn invisible when you close your eyes. Similarly, a moment in time doesn't cease to exist just because you're not passing through that particular moment.

Spacetime is a multi-dimensional structure in which everything happens in a single moment that lasts forever. A many-dimensional creature (a god, perhaps) could look at it from outside of spacetime and see the history of the entire universe from beginning to end, and everything that happens, everywhere, all at once.

In that eternal moment, everything that has ever existed lasts forever. The only reason we see things as transitory is because we're only able to perceive three dimensions at a time. The transitory nature of things is an optical illuuuuuusion created by our three-dimensional nature. Seen from outside the universe, a being that lives forever is not much different from a being that is infinitely tall or wide.

Don't be afraid. None of us need fear nonexistence. Everything that exists, has ever existed, or will ever exist, lasts forever if you view it from outside our universe. Which means these things can actually outlive the universe itself. How's that for immortality?
"Forever(adv) For all time, for all eternity; for an infinite amount of time."
Even though you are right, as far as I know, about that "Everything that exists, has ever existed, or will ever exist" but it wont exist forever as forever requires one to exist for an infinite amount of time...

Ares Tyr post=18.72058.748717 said:
My life's goal is to be made immortal in the mind of mankind, actually. So I suppose we kinda share that. I don't want to die forgotten forever. I want to be remembered as someone great who contributed something great to society, or accomplished something great.
This one is more realistic, but still very far fetched, as long as you realise that human kind will die some point in time... The problem would be if human kind exists for a very long time that it will have enough time to forget your possible deeds...

And just to add two more of the theories about what will happen to the universe: The Big Rip and The Big Freeze or The Heat Death.
 

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Asymptote Angel post=18.72058.748184 said:
If people show up to your funeral and someone is sad because you're gone, then your life had an impact. I think it's almost impossible not to achieve at least one of those upon dying, so I wouldn't be worried.

You may be worried that the world as a whole will forget you, and you do have to accept that you aren't Alexander the Great or William Shakespeare. However, you will never be forgotten by your friends and loved ones, and they matter infinitely more than six billion strangers.
by far the most sensible piece of information I have seen in this post.
 

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hmmm i read your poem and now i will give you a song written by someone else
Dont let any ones work evade your eyes
Why do you think god gave your eyes
so dont shield your eyes
PLAGIARIZE PLAGIARIZE PLAGIARIZE!!!
 

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Ivoryagent post=18.72058.748260 said:
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Aries_Split post=18.72058.745985 said:
I have a fear.

It's not a crippling thing that prohibits me from my day to day activities.
No, it's a little more intricate than that.

My fear is what keeps you awake at night, after lying dormant in the back of your mind for the day.
My fear is what you find your self thinking about during idle periods in the day.
My fear, is the fear of being forgotten.

The idea that my existence was so meaningless, so devoid of impact, that I end when I die absolutely torments me.

No, wait stop, read that sentence again. I'm not afraid of death. I'm afraid of Ending.
I almost jumped up and danced when I read that.
Well actually I did but y'know...

There's the being forgotten thing, but I also do the whole 'What would it be like to be dead?' I mean I'm not scared of it or anything, I just wonder what it would be like to BE not alive.
It keeps me awake 'cos I think, REALLY, intensly think.
What happens to our being? Our - it's hard to explain - sense of awareness. Just, what happens?
I don't know. What happened in the last 13 billion years that you did not exist in?
...

I don't mean the rest of the world, I mean as that person who has died. I did say it was hard to explain.
 

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Bulletinmybrain post=18.72058.747919 said:
SNIP
Bah. Hitler will be knocked off soon, Every age has a conquered. And every age after that. The day when we all work towards the common good, Is when we will be conquering space monkeys/aliens. Until then, We are happy genocide on each other.
Dude, you are getting profound in your old age.

Personally I would like to make a difference in small things or large whilst alive - I really don't care how long (or if) I'm remembered after I go. As Bullet says, all great and terrible things eventually pass from consciousness. People still remember Alexander's deeds, but they don't remember him - the set of his jaw, his humor (or lack thereof), the way he liked his tea... Already Alexander the person has passed from the world's perception, and eventually his deeds will follow. If you've solved one person's vexing computer problem, furnished one shoulder to cry on, done one good day's work, then you've altered the world whether or not anyone knows or remembers. I think what matters is not so much whether your deeds were great or humble, but whether, when you face G-d, you can say the world would have been a bit worse without you in it.