A GAME OF THRONES by George R.R. Martin (Book review!)

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Usually when the planets align a great writer comes out and manages to bring new life into that old genre called Fantasy. A genre that is polluted with Tolkien rip-offs, the abuse of Norse Mythology and English folklore. This writer comes with the name of George R.R. Martin.


He looks like the coolest grandfather ever.

After many experiments in many different genres, some with success and others not so much, Martin managed to hit the jackpot in 1996 with a book called A Game of Thrones. A Game of Thrones did not only catapult Martin into fame, but also pumped new blood into the Fantasy genre. So without any more delays the premise of the book!

When Eddard Stark Lord of Castle Winterfell, receives a visit from his old friend, the ruler of the Seven Kingdons: Robert Baratheon. During the stay King Robert asks Eddard to follow him to the courting the south and assume the prestigious role of The Hand of the King. Eddard accepts the invitation, but only because he believes that the former Hand of the King was murdered by the Queen: a vicious manipulator from the House of Lannister. Close to the king, Eddard hopes he can protect him from the Queen and her family. But having the Lannisters as enemies can come up as fatal: the Lannister's ambition knows no bounds and the King is in greater danger than Eddard thought. Alone in a court of vipers and back stabbers, Eddard realizes that is life is also in danger, and so is his family in the north. In the Far East beyond the great sea, an old House that ruled once in seven Kingdoms and that was exiled from it by Robert Baratheon, wants the throne back and is gathering a massive army to accomplish it.

When you play the game of thrones you either win or die.


A Game of Thrones is the first part of a seven series of books entitled A Song of Ice and Fire. But what exactly makes A Game of Thrones different from every other fantasy book? Well it dumps most of its cliches on the dark side of the moon. You won't find Orcs, Dark Lords, evil plots to destroy the world, quests to destroy/retrieve a certain object, talking animals or Elves(Thank god for that...). If you would ask me to compare A Game of Thrones with something I would have to say, that it's Dune with a fantasy setting. The political drama is there and the excellent character development to. But just like Dune was light on the Sci-fi so is A Game of Thrones with the fantasy. You will find little or almost no magic or any other standard fantasy staples in here. But the fantasy is still there, but it's hidden beneath the main plot that is very driven by politics and lots of backstabbing.


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But what in lacks of basic fantasy it excels in one thing. The characters and trust me when I say this, you won't find a better cast of characters than the ones in A Game of Thrones(and obvious the rest of the series). The book is divided into 8 characters (9 counting with the prologue.), and each chapter in the book is dedicated to one of the 8 characters, this is called Point of View.

Eddard Stark: the Ruler of Winterfell and Hand of the King, very high morale standards and honour before anything.
Cattelyn Stark: The wife of Eddard Stark, the overzealous mother and wife.
Jon Snow: The bastard son of Eddard Stark, the one who wants to be recognized.
Bran Stark: The 8 year old son of Eddard and Cattelyn, the one who wants to become a great Knight.
Sansa Stark: The twelve year old daughter of Eddard and Cattelyn, wants to be first and foremost a princess and lady.
Arya Stark: The 10 year old daughter of Eddard and Cattelyn, interested in fighting and exploring, the opposite of her sister.
Tyrion Lannister: The dwarf and black sheep of the House of Lannister.
Daenerys Targaryen- The exiled thirteen year old girl of the former rulers of Seven Kingdoms.

The chapters alternate between characters and usually end up in cliff hangers. So the book reads almost like a television show. The good thing about this is that the characters feel so alive and unique, that when you finish reading one chapter that ends up in a cliff hanger, you won't get the urge to jump chapters to continue the read about that character, because all of the points of view are interesting. This is where Martin's writing really pay's off. You will never feel bored and there isn't many "dead chapters". The development of the 8 main characters feels very natural and they are always a pleasure reading them. So you will never go. "Awww not this guy again...urg!". Not only the 8 main characters feel fleshed out and unique, but so does the supporting cast. Which results in one of the greatest casts ever in a book, all of the characters will make you feel something for them, not only the 8 main characters, but also the ones they interact with. You will love some characters and you will utterly despise others, not because they are bad written characters, but because they really are an evil bunch, that deserve a slow painfull death.

The other aspect where Martin's writing really reaches greatness, it's the plot development. The story will grab you pretty much instantly and only let you go when you finish the book. (Which is quite a big book; it clocks something like 800 pages.) The plot advances in a very fast pace but it never gets in the way of character development or descriptions of locations.
Martin is one of the few authors, which makes you, the reader fear for the life of your favourite character. In A Game of Thrones (and in the rest of the series) no character is safe. If they have to die they will die, if they have to suffer they will suffer. There is no "Hero conquers all and gets girl" in this book, this is as gritty and realistic as it gets. With this mentality Martin creates some of the most unexpected plot twists and "oh my god! I never saw it coming!" moments.
Martin also has a very brutal writing. Not just the fate of some characters but its content. Theres plenty of cursing, sex scenes, beheading, incest, pedophile, rape, gore filled deaths and other nasty stuff. If you light hearted on those subjects you better stay away from the book.
Some of the locations on the book are quite exotic and a pleasure to read. Theres chapters based on a society not very used in mainstream culture, the Mongol society. Which is a very refreshing set of events, considering that most fantasy is based on medieval England and Europe.There is also this really massive Wall made out of ice, that protects the 7 Kingdoms, which will delight most of the hardcore fantasy lovers. But I will leave that for the reader to discover.


You can't go wrong with a big ass Wall of Ice.

But A Game of Throne is not all perfect. It has some flaws like everything else in the world. The first one is the amount of past events described through out the book and the epic number of character names you will have to remember. This problem comes right at the start of the book, the first 100 pages can really be hard to read and confusing. Martin throws at the reader plenty of names and events so fast, which for the casual reader will probably have to put the book down for awhile to let the information flow. But there is a genealogical tree at the end of the book to help the reader to remember who is who. But it still doesn't help most of the time, with some of the "nobody" characters spread through out the book.
The second flaw is that most of the book is based on good ol' medieval England. The Mongol based chapters and the wall of ice is very refreshing and unique, but then you are dragged back to the English setting and it disappoints. But thanks to Martin's excellent writing you will forget about that very fast so its just a minor annoyance.
But none of the flaws really get in the way of the book, with patience all the barrage of events and names will start to settle down and you will get use to it. The english setting is also passable thanks to the great plot and characters.

A Game of Thrones is a GREAT book. One of the best books in the fantasy genre and possibly one of the best fantasy series (when Martin manages to finish it up that is...). This is not Tolkien, Robert Jordan or Rowling, George R.R. Martin lives in his own place of greatness and its one of the best writers out there. The characters are great and well rounded; the plot is amazing and very clever, with plenty of twists to keep you entertained and shocked. Even with its long duration of 800 and something pages, the book will never bore you.

So if you love Fantasy and want a new take on the genre I cannot stress enough to buy this right away. If you just looking for a great book to read, buy it too! This is a fantastic book that will leave you beg for more and one of the best fantasy stories ever told.

GO BUY IT NOW!

Notes: Yes I'm well aware that I covered almost no plot in here. But I don't like to review books like that. I review them almost like a movie, tv show or even a video game.I had to translate it all from portuguese to english and I didn't really change anything. : / Apart from the images...Also some countries divided the book into different parts(Some times into two books or more) so if you interested in buying it don't look suprise to find out that your copy only has 400 pages instead of 800. Also translating is a very painfull job...
 

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The biggest problem with the Ice & Fire series is that it's ridiculously depressing to the point of surpassing the 'gritty realism' marker and plummeting straight into 'demonic film noir' turf.

I spoil nothing when I say every character in these books is either miserable, soon-to-be miserable, or dead... or on occasion dead-and-miserable in one particular case. No-one is happy, everything is depressing, not a single good thing happens to a single good character that isn't soon thereafter turned against them in a dark horrible twist. The good guys lose, and the bad guys win, and yet the bad guys are still miserable because even the life of a victor in this series is one of abysmal loathing and terror.

That's not to say Martin is a bad author, he's a fantastic author who's amazing at creating believable likable characters and plausible plots that read like an elaborate and interesting glimpse into another space and time... but that just makes it even *more* depressing because you wish just once someone could have a happy ending.

Now obviously not everything can be puppies and lollipops, and I'm not saying it should be... but seriously I own all the books of this series but could never finish the last book because, and this is the first time EVER this has happened to me (And I love horror novels), I just couldn't bear to read through any more. Just too depressing. After two and a half books of unending misery I couldn't take it anymore.

Which is a shame because I loved G.R.R Martin's book Fevre Dream. Extremely good. But A Song of Ice & Fire? No more for me. I've given up and to read any more I can't help but feel would be bordering on masochism.
 

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The Madman said:
Depressing? You thought ASOIAF depressing? I wonder what you would think of 1984? Borderline of suicidal? ^^ Or the Pet Semetary, which puts on graveyard mood for a couple of days.

But I guess thats ASOIAF trademark. Its different and its real. If Harry Potter was writen by Martin he would have died in the first book. Martin is writing a work that is different from everything else. We used to see the hero make it through the end, but in ASOIAF we don't. Most of the time we actually see the bad guys win.

Furthermore the series isn't over yet. And like Martin says "It's all about revenge.". And sometimes in the series we get a glimpse of what Martin means.

Come on! Don't say that Joffrey getting killed wasn't the best thing ever? ^^
 

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Time to flex my literary muscles I suppose, spoiler tagged because it's a ridiculously long read (I do so love to write about writing).

I have not only read Pet Cemetery, I own it along with a whole slew of other Stephen King novels. Out of what I'd call his true 'horror' works, Pet Cemetery along with The Shinning are easily the best I'd say, although IT, The Stand, Salem's Lot, Needful Things & Carrie I'd say are also excellent. Skeleton's Crew is also without doubt his best short-story collection, read it, NOW. However it's his non-traditional horror novels I like the most, The Eyes of the Dragon is an amazing fantasy work for example. But my all time favorite? The Running Man. It is by far my favorite 'dystopian future' novel and the best of Stephen King's work. Short, but not too short (His books do tend to drag on sometimes... why hello there The Stand!), a likable protagonist, an amazing believable premise, and a mind-bending twist-ridden journey through the future of not-so-far-away tomorrow.

If you've never read it, read it NOW. The Running Man folks, buy it today!

As for George Orwell, of his works, all of which again I have not only read but own, I'd say it's not 1984 which is his most 'depressing' as it were, but the shorter and much less well known story called 'Burmese Days'. It's a sort of glimpse into the absolute misery and despair of a young man desperate for love. Sounds cheesy right? It isn't. Very sad story with a protagonist I felt particularly attached to and as such felt all the more sympathetic towards. Very sad story, probably my favorite Orwell novel despite that.

But if you want to plumb into Horror more, why not mention Clive Barker? He's a fantastic Horror author, very... disturbed, with his love of pseudo-sexual deviance and skill at portraying grotesque imagery. Look up his collection called, go figure, the Books of Blood as they contain all his best work. Personally I love his short stories more than his novels, which like Stephen King's above, tend to drag on and on. On that note I never did quite finish The Great and Secret Show...

I've tried Dean Koontz, but didn't find him scary in the least, and Anne Rice should burn for ruining vampires in fiction forever in minds the world round. Richard Matheson isn't really a horror writer but his book I Am Legend is something everyone should read, and while I'm mentioning must reads and vampires, read Bram Stoker's Dracula. It's a bit dry, but the overall story still holds up surprisingly well today.

Then there's my ongoing love with Edgar Allen Poe and H.P.Lovecraft, both of whom I've memorized multiple workings from to such a point I can quote them at will. Poe's poetry and Lovecrafts distorted imagery.

Lovecraft mind you wasn't the best author, oh no. Terrible really! It's his imagination, the themes of his stories and the strange sort of frantic fever he seemed capable of imbuing into his works. Reading his work is more like a glimpse into his dark dreams than any proper story or book, a look into his very head. I've never read another author quite like him.
Now, with all that said (Although I'll add I'd be more than happy to snap a picture of my book-collection if you need proof of my words. Rather proud of it!) A Song of Ice and Fire is the *only* series I've ever dropped because it was too dreary. It's the constant bombardment of it, one tragedy filled story of misery after another, each protagonist more miserable than the next, nothing positive, nothing happy that doesn't end badly. I can't take it. There's just something about that series...

And I know it's not just Martin, because as mentioned I've read his other work, my favorite of which is a book of his named Fevre Dreams. (Read it!) No, it's just that one series. I can't stand it. I never finished the last book, although I do own it. I remember I just set it aside and never mustered the urge to continue reading. And why should I? I already know what happens: Everyone becomes either more unhappy or dies.

The End!
 

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The Madman said:
The only true horror/scary book from King is It. I do love Pet Semetary even if it leaves me with the graveyard mood. Most of King's novels aren't really scary. They do leave the feeling of perpetuate fear of something. After reading The Shining you will never look at a Hotel at the same way. Salem's Lot every tap on the window will make you crap your taps etc etc.

Althout I would vote 1984 as one of the most depressing reads ever and endings.

The main character soul is completly destroyed! All of his hopes and dreams crushed by Big Brother.

Also Dean Koontz, Clive Barker and Anne Rice fail beyond believe! And how does Koontz sell I cannot understand...And everytime I hear someone say that Koontz is better than King(who is called a sell out) my soul just dies abit.

Lovecraft is the only true horror writer. Not cause his work was about terror and horror but his writing was also a horror to read. xD Pretty fan of his work and I can probably recite CAll of Cthulhu by memory.(And I did do plenty of reviews on his stories.). But dammit the guy is a total trainwreck when it comes to writing. Most of it comes from the fact that he alwasys thought that he wrote was bad.

In ASOIAF defense.(Also the reason you droped down the 4th book its cause its a really bad book(By Martins standards.)) I won't say its depressing or leaves you unhappy. He needs to fill 7 books. If every book ended with a happy ending(*cough*Harry Potter*cough*) it wouldn't be half as good. Also Martin is setting the stage, for the end. I doubt that many characters will have a happy ending, but I also doubt that he is going to leave all the characters in miserable positions.(By the way the 4th book doesn't end that bad. It does set the events for the big finale.)

The Wheel of Time suffers from that.(Most of The Wheel of Time series is VERY boring and Jordan could have wrapped up everying sooner...now he is dead and the new asshole that is following up the series is writing more 3 books...) I still recomend A Song of Ice and Fire and curse everyone that hasn't read it yet. Its a series that is becoming important as The Lord of the Rings.

The Fellowship of the Ring doesn't end up with a happy ending. Nor does The Two Towers. Return of the King does end up with a happy ending.
 

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oliveira8 said:
Come on! Don't say that Joffrey getting killed wasn't the best thing ever? ^^
It really was - I was going "YEAH!" and fist-pumping while I was reading that part. And also in A Feast for Crows when
Cersei gets locked up by the Faith. She had it coming, that incestuous ho!
EDIT: Oh, and also when Tyrion shoots his dad with a crossbow while he's taking a dump

ASOIAF can be very depressing (like a certain event in book 3*), but it's just so good that you still enjoy it. And there are still some triumphs to be enjoyed - like Jon Snow's and Daenerys'. This review is pretty spot on - I totally agree about the strength of the characters. No matter how many books I read, I will always remember characters like Tyrion, Daenerys, Jon, Jaime Lannister, Melisandre, and lots of others.

The Red Wedding. So brutal...

The Madman said:
And I know it's not just Martin, because as mentioned I've read his other work, my favorite of which is a book of his named Fevre Dreams. (Read it!) No, it's just that one series. I can't stand it. I never finished the last book, although I do own it. I remember I just set it aside and never mustered the urge to continue reading. And why should I? I already know what happens: Everyone becomes either more unhappy or dies.

The End!
Have you read anything else by Martin? Fevre Dream was great, and he wrote some decent sci-fi with Dying of the Light and Tuf Voyaging. And there's also modern fantasy/horror with The Armageddon Rag. He's an awesome author, even aside from ASOIAF.
Have you seen my George R.R. Martin Appreciation Thread? Search for it - you might like it!
 

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oliveira8 said:
The characters and trust me when I say this, you won't find a better cast of characters than the ones in A Game of Thrones(and obvious the rest of the series).
Hmm, I dunno. I think about half of the characters didn't really work.

I wanted to like Jon but his chapters just got duller and duller. Jon himself always seemed to grow more passive. He'd just kinda end up somewhere and then someone would tell him to do something.

Bran, too, started out more interesting than he became.

And I felt that Martin was perpetually blocking any opportunity for Arya to really assert herself. I found her interesting as a person but Martin repeatedly punished me for expecting chapters about her to go anywhere.

And Theon Greyjoy was a POV character for a while. Theon! The thing about Theon is that he's a massive tool and the characters he interacts with are more interesting than he is. And then he just stopped being a POV character without any real resolution. (And then I stopped reading before the book he comes back in.)

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oliveira8 said:
The characters and trust me when I say this, you won't find a better cast of characters than the ones in A Game of Thrones(and obvious the rest of the series).
Hmm, I dunno. I think about half of the characters didn't really work.

I wanted to like Jon but his chapters just got duller and duller. Jon himself always seemed to grow more passive. He'd just kinda end up somewhere and then someone would tell him to do something.

Bran, too, started out more interesting than he became.

And I felt that Martin was perpetually blocking any opportunity for Arya to really assert herself. I found her interesting as a person but Martin repeatedly punished me for expecting chapters about her to go anywhere.

And Theon Greyjoy was a POV character for a while. Theon! The thing about Theon is that he's a massive tool and the characters he interacts with are more interesting than he is. And then he just stopped being a POV character without any real resolution. (And then I stopped reading before the book he comes back in.)

-- Alex
3 characters that grow on the other books.(Arya kinda goes ups and downs tho...) But I really liked Jon cause of all the description of the life on the Wall. And later on the series the chapters that interact Jon and Tyrion become more relevant, and it becomes one of the character that changes alot. Funny that you didn't mention Sansa. Usually from the 8 PoV, she is the one that its always beaten down, for being constantly annoying.

Bu even so you still have Tyrion Lannister who lives in a plane beyond awesomeness. The rest of the cast is equally great. Littlefinger, Cercei, Jaime Lannister and Twyrn(Probably his name is wrong...), Robert Baratheon, Varys, Barristan, Robb Stark, Syrio Forel(Did I got his name right?), The Old Bear Mormont, the other Mormont, the Dothraki,The Hound and others. Even if the PoV characters get boring the supporting cast keeps your interest peeked.

Unless its A Feast for Crows which suffers from being to big and nothing have nothing to say. Oh and not having Davos, Jon, Tyrion and Daenerys as PoV.
 

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I love the Song of Ice and Fire books, such a great read. Pity I can't find a copy of Dance of Dragons.
Good work on the review as well. Very informative, though you were perhaps a bit too biased.
 

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Nice review, I think that ASoIaF it's not for everyone, but it's so different from the usual crappy mainstream fantasy (*cough* Eragon *cough*) that you have to at least try to read it if you call yourself a fantasy reader.

It's true that Martin really tortures his characters, but it feels so good when he does it with the bad ones, that you can bear the death of the "good" ones.
Cersei? Jeoffrey? Jaime? Yeah, bring those Lannister bitches down!

Should we start a best charcter poll? Littlefinger would get my vote, even only for this:
marrying Lysa Tully/Arryn, securing the Eyrie and then throwing her down the mountain, while getting his hands on Sansa meanwhile.
 

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Viruzzo said:
Nice review, I think that ASoIaF it's not for everyone, but it's so different from the usual crappy mainstream fantasy (*cough* Eragon *cough*) that you have to at least try to read it if you call yourself a fantasy reader.
Hey! Quit that! Eragorn's not THAT bad!

Besides, some of us simply aren't smart enough for those fancy things you guys call continuity and thematic storytelling. We just want the damn elves! =D

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I'll go back to my corner now. =(
 

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Cloud73 said:
Viruzzo said:
Nice review, I think that ASoIaF it's not for everyone, but it's so different from the usual crappy mainstream fantasy (*cough* Eragon *cough*) that you have to at least try to read it if you call yourself a fantasy reader.
Hey! Quit that! Eragorn's not THAT bad!

Besides, some of us simply aren't smart enough for those fancy things you guys call continuity and thematic storytelling. We just want the damn elves! =D

...

I'll go back to my corner now. =(
Elves are the hellspawn of Fantasy since the Silmarillion...
 

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I liked A Feast for Crows quite a lot - it may not have been quite as good as the others, but it's still great.

Like I mentioned before, the stuff with Cersei is pretty gratifying. Brienne's story thread was alright - it gets a bad rap, but I didn't mind it. And I also liked the stuff on the Iron Islands with Victarion Greyjoy and Euron Crowseye - it'll be interesting when they go East after Daenerys.
 

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oliveira8 said:
3 characters that grow on the other books.(Arya kinda goes ups and downs tho...)
In the three or four books I've read (all that were out at the time... I guess it's five now?), they didn't grow.

Jon just seemed to get more passive. It was like he was just there to show us what was going on beyond the Wall rather than to actually do anything. I found his chapters very dull. I was all like, "That's nice, Martin, there's some foreshadowing. I'm bored of that. Get to the actual thing that is going to happen now, please."

Bran did nothing and went nowhere as far as I was concerned. He changed a lot, but it was all vaguely described and more about handwavy foreshadowing than any kind of full-on character development. And, again, I was like, "Whatever, I don't need 2000 pages of foreshadowing!"

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Funny that you didn't mention Sansa. Usually from the 8 PoV, she is the one that its always beaten down, for being constantly annoying.
Sansa chapters get frustrating but there isn't the same feeling of wasted potential. Arya chapters are just stuffed to the brim with wasted potential.

oliveira8 said:
Even if the PoV characters get boring the supporting cast keeps your interest peeked.
I think the series is much better at giving you little sketches of interesting characters than at actually telling a story about them. A lot of the most interesting story bits are just backstory snippets. I think it's the same problem Artesia suffers from: lots of great little images and ideas that really stay with you because they're nothing like the typical "fantasy" shit, but they're still stuck in the overwrought, over-detailed, way-too-slow structure of a typical fantasy series.

-- Alex
 

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Have you read anything else by Martin? Fevre Dream was great, and he wrote some decent sci-fi with Dying of the Light and Tuf Voyaging. And there's also modern fantasy/horror with The Armageddon Rag. He's an awesome author, even aside from ASOIAF.
Have you seen my George R.R. Martin Appreciation Thread? Search for it - you might like it!
I read The Dying of the Light and Hunter's Run (The sci-fi one) as well as a couple of his short-stories and novellas which have been in various collections. Haven't read any of his other work however, Fevre Dream aside obviously, but I'm sure I will eventually because as mentioned I think Martin is an excellent author.

One of the best alive today.

I just wish he would cheer the hell up some! Most of his stuff has that noire and grimy vibe but to a tolerable or appropriate degree, Fevre Dream for example for all its dark twists and turns does also have it's high points and 'go team' moments. I even liked the ending! It's just in Ice & Fire he really seems to let that sadist side of him loose. Poor characters, sure he created em, but does he really have to be so cruel to them as well? The series will probably have a relatively positive sorta-pseudo-happy ending, the question is can I wade through all the misery and despair to get there and will it be worth it? I'm not so sure.
 

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I thought Feast for Crows was okay, A Dance With Dragons will bring him back to the main PoV characters and hopefully be worth the epic wait.

At least he has the guts to kill of his main characters - I'm sure some of you have read The Sword of Truth series, Terry Goodkind seemed like he was treating his PoV characters with kid gloves - I loaned what's been released so far to a friend of mine who's not really into fantasy but he's loved them, especially A Storm of Swords.

Roll on October (I hope)
 

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A Game of Thrones is probably my favorite in the series, mainly because of the Daenerys chapters. Throughout the series, she has become one of my favorite characters in any series.
 

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I've found the story interesting enough to keep reading, but I lost any real feeling about any of the characters after most of the interesting ones were killed off for the shock value of killing them. It doesn't help that he throws around an absurd number of characters in the first place. If anything, this series has become overrated by people who are too impressed at the author's enthusiasm about killing characters and making everyone seem miserable. While I'll probably read the next book at some point (assuming it ever gets finished), it's certainly not something I'm eagerly awaiting.
 

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I think it is great writing, if only because it is gritty, and the fact that no one really seems to be in the right, especially as time goes on. And the fact that he does well at pacing all the characters as time goes on, though I find it not as well done in A Feast for Crows, though I also blame the PoV choice here, as I didn't like the characters as much.

Like what happened to Davos exactly. Or if Brienne pulled a crazy plot twist. Or Tyrion in general.
 

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Martin is an exceptionally gifted writer, his sense of place is amazing, and his characters are likeable, interesting, and varied.

His style is unapologetically depressing. Not just, "wow that's a bummer" depressing, but "oh-my-word, can anything worse happen to this family?" In Martin's case, the answer is always "yes".

They don't kick puppies in these books. They kick them in the head, run them over with a car, and slowly nurse them back to health, then decapitate and eat them... while their little puppy children watch.

I have no problem with "gritty", I'm a big boy and have lived life. I don't need Disney(R) endings to my books. However, there is a fine line between "gritty" and exploitation, and Martin hasn't found it. If the only reason you work hard to make a child character likable (for example) is so you can mutilate him in act 2, then that's exploitation.

It's cheap, and far beneath Martin's obvious talent.

"It's all about revenge", he may say. But there's another fine line that Martin hasn't found. In order for revenge to work, there must be some feeling of relief, or justification, or some redemption associated with it. It is possible (and in this case inevitable) that the bad guys will do *so much harm* to a person that revenge is pointless. Killing them cannot possibly make up for the misery inflicted on the "good" characters in this book. The punishment of Prometheus would not satisfy me.

It is possible to go too far. Martin always does.

So in a nutshell, awesome writer with no sense of propriety or bounds. A gourmet chef that always serves his food with ipecac. If you can stomach his offerings, you may enjoy them. But this is the first book I have ever put down because it made me feel like crap every time I picked it up.

So... Bravo???