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Alex_P

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TerraMGP said:
HAY! don't knock the bass player... hehe

Seriously though with the GMs we have around here I can't imagine the game being as fun if they did not have the absolute authority. Things would not be so crazy
Well, that's the point: the "bass player" helps keep everyone else playing together without really needing to lead. That's awesome!

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For me, a good game is carried
by the musical zone, (whats that?)
Its the BGM, OST, Battle Music, etc.
If the game that i am playing is
consisted with cool and flashy music
well ill finish it in no time.
 

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MistAlchemist said:
For me, a good game is carried
by the musical zone, (whats that?)
Its the BGM, OST, Battle Music, etc.
If the game that i am playing is
consisted with cool and flashy music
well ill finish it in no time.
What a lovely poem!
 

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Baby Tea said:
Oh man you're speaking my language. I BUTCHERED that game with an undead hunter paladin. I actually have the 'Complete' MOD which let's you use the BG:2 engine (And all it's extra perks!) and play through the entire series (Expansions and all) in one go! Same Character, no game switching, BG:2 abilities in BG 1, higher resolution in BG 1, Oh man...I love that freaking series.
So, as an avid Baldur's Gate fan, do you see yourself being able to get into Dragon Age?
 

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The Lost Odyssey. The story is more mature than most JRPGs and the combat works really well.
 

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I was/is/always will be a "Dragon Quest" fan. Call me crazy, but I first enjoyed watching my dad play those games when I was a kid and since then they have grown on me. I beat Dragon Warrior I and Dragon Quest IV(The DS Remake) and got hooked on those games. I've already got a pre-order down on Dragon Quest V when it comes out here in February and I can't wait cos its the first time we Americans get to see the game.

Trust me there's plenty of other JRPGs I like playing to. Final Fantasy, Blue Dragon and even Sudeki come to mind. Elder Scrolls by my unreasonably high standards(and I mean HIGH) is "OK at best but doesn't do it for me like a game like Dragon Quest.
 

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ElArabDeMagnifico said:
Fallout 3 is more of an RPG shooter hybrid anyway. The stats are practically a joke in that game.
How so? The weapons skills obviously increase damage. It looks like they at least subtly impact your aim, too. Most of the other stats don't come up very often but have pretty obvious effects -- that's not really too different from skills in KOTOR or, well... any RPG video game I can think of, to be honest.

It's annoying that VATS is a super-special kill mode rather than an actual alternative way to play the game, but it is all stat-driven. And I think I got something like 90% of my kills in VATS.

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Back in the day I played the hell out of Xenogears. Story is still important to me, though my tastes in gameplay have matured to the point I just can't play any JRPG's anymore... Jade Empire is amusing me lately.

I suppose if the game has 1. Good writing all around. 2. Good controls and engaging gameplay, even if not revolutionary. 3. Cinematic qualities, then it's a good RPG.
 

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runtheplacered said:
Baby Tea said:
Oh man you're speaking my language. I BUTCHERED that game with an undead hunter paladin. I actually have the 'Complete' MOD which let's you use the BG:2 engine (And all it's extra perks!) and play through the entire series (Expansions and all) in one go! Same Character, no game switching, BG:2 abilities in BG 1, higher resolution in BG 1, Oh man...I love that freaking series.
So, as an avid Baldur's Gate fan, do you see yourself being able to get into Dragon Age?
I honestly don't know. What I've seen of Dragon age has both raised my eyebrows and also made me go 'ehh...' so I'm not too sure. I mean, I LOVE Bioware and every RPG they've made that I've played (Which is easily most of them) I've loved.

...

Ok, in between this paragraph and the last, I went to the dragon age website and watched a few of the videos. Yeah, I'm pretty excited about the game. It looks good, with a changing story that changes (What I've been waiting for).

But I don't have a gaming PC right now. My laptop broke and I can't afford a new desktop, unless I can get a nice gaming desktop for, like, 20 bucks. But I don't see that happening anytime soon.
 

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I'm not actually sure, and it's my favourite genre. I mean, a great plot is good, but it's rare for a story to be both excellent and open-ended, so a good story alone can't usually extend the lifespan of a game. The battle system should depend on how you set up your characters, but also have enough flexibility to require skill during the battles. For instance, the card-based system in Baten Kaitos depended so heavily on pre-battle setup, the actual fights were mostly about getting dealt the right cards, and trying to make the best of the damage multipliers availiable to you. It felt somewhat uninvolving. There should be a greater challenge than the final boss, to give you something to work at when you've burned through the main story. And it should make you feel suitably powerful by the lategame; if you're taking on world-ending demons that use extinction-level catastrophies as their default attacks, having a party member knocked out by anybody lower than a end-of-dungeon boss should make you feel indignant, not threatened.

Long story short: I love Disgaea. If a terrorist handed me a bomb remote linked to the Nippon Ichi studios, and a bomb remote linked to the entire southern hemisphere, and forced me to choose between them, I'd be seriously conflicted. Not about who to blow up, you understand, but because Disgaea 3 came out recently, so I'd naturally want to play that, but all the talk of bombs made me feel like going and playing more Makai Kingdom.
 

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I pretty much love ALL RPG's that aren't Diablo style games or straight hack and slashers. For me the most important part is an engaging and substantial story (or Stories in the case of Fallout 3, since the sidequests are more engaging than the main plot in some cases).

However if the game has a particularly good battle system and good scenario writing I can usually forgive a stereotypical story, however a good battle system cannot always save a game with a poor plot (Shadow Hearts: From the New World is the best example, or the worst one).
 

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Stubee said:
Wow, according to some rumours Baldurs Gate 3 is in development!!!
That would be the one game that made me get off my ass and purchase a gaming quality laptop (i get framerate issues with peggle on this damn thing)
It's called "Dragon Age."

Bioware realized that the D&D franchise was holding them back.

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Great RPGs have decent or no voice acting, a compelling story, strategic combat and need to multiple playthroughs to have 100% completion. Three examples of these are Skies of Arcadia: Legends, Tales of Sympohina and Baten Kaitos: Origins. These are my favorites RPGs.
 

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My favorite RPGs are the Neverwinter JKnights & Baldur's Gate games. Great stories, sometimes ammusing too. Both are by BioWare, so I always expect good things from Dragon Age.

Stubee said:
Wow, according to some rumours Baldurs Gate 3 is in development!!!
That would be the one game that made me get off my ass and purchase a gaming quality laptop (i get framerate issues with peggle on this damn thing)
I concider Neverwinter Knights to be BG3, NWK2 = BG4, & Dragon Age to be Baldur's Gate 5.
 

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A good RPG can be many things, but the top three essentials any worthwhile game must have are:

- A thoughtout, unclichéd storyline
- Enjoyable gameplay mechanics and music (Fallout 3's VATS and GNR, etc.)
- Longevity
 

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Vorpals said:
A good RPG can be many things, but the top three essentials any worthwhile game must have are:

- A thoughtout, unclichéd storyline
- Enjoyable gameplay mechanics and music (Fallout 3's VATS and GNR, etc.)
- Longevity
This. Although I have to object to the cliche part, you can't escape cliche, it's just part of basic story telling and character. Hell Chrono Trigger proves that an RPG can be cliche and still have a kick ass amazing story.