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AkaDad

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The Lunatic said:
I think most "Feminists" on the internet actually believe what they're saying.

They actually think they're doing some good in the world.

It just seems kinda pointless to insult them.

They're so far beyond any sense of rationality, it's not going to help anything.
Feminists have been fighting to end the ban against gay marriage. You shouldn't be so condescending, when you're so utterly wrong.
 

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AkaDad said:
The Lunatic said:
I think most "Feminists" on the internet actually believe what they're saying.

They actually think they're doing some good in the world.

It just seems kinda pointless to insult them.

They're so far beyond any sense of rationality, it's not going to help anything.
Feminists have been fighting to end the ban against gay marriage. You shouldn't be so condescending, when you're so utterly wrong.
All by themselves? How noble. I wonder if us LIBERALS/PROGRESSIVES/DEMOCRATS helped just a tiny bit? Or the organized LGBTQ movements?

Nope just the feminists? Gotchya.
 

AkaDad

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DC_78 said:
AkaDad said:
The Lunatic said:
I think most "Feminists" on the internet actually believe what they're saying.

They actually think they're doing some good in the world.

It just seems kinda pointless to insult them.

They're so far beyond any sense of rationality, it's not going to help anything.
Feminists have been fighting to end the ban against gay marriage. You shouldn't be so condescending, when you're so utterly wrong.
All by themselves? How noble. I wonder if us LIBERALS/PROGRESSIVES/DEMOCRATS helped just a tiny bit? Or the organized LGBTQ movements?

Nope just the feminists? Gotchya.
Did I say that it was solely feminists? No, I didn't.

That was almost as condescending as the other guy.
 

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EternallyBored said:
I take extreme offense to this term, you are denigrating and insulting the proud usage of that acronym in its use to fight for the rights of house elves everywhere.

The Society for the Promotion of Elfish Welfare (SPEW) will not tolerate you hijacking their legitimate brand name and using their moniker to erase the struggles of our proud elfish brothers and sisters. The SPEWs will fight for our recognition and the recognition of the oppressed population we fight for.

I demand that you apologize at once for this slander against an entire species.

(Wow, that's the nerdiest Harry Potter joke I've ever made)
Okay, I'll admit I had a shamelessly nerdy chortle at this, because I'd completely forgotten about what else the acronym could stand for until you reminded me. In hindsight I really should have seen something like that coming with how much I set myself up for it.

Bravo. (Not sarcasm, I did get a good laugh out of it.)
 

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AkaDad said:
Feminists have been fighting to end the ban against gay marriage. You shouldn't be so condescending, when you're so utterly wrong.
Members of movement also constantly portrays intimate partner abuse/violence as almost exclusively problem of male abuser and female victim when truth is that it's more or less equally distributed between genders. And the fact that they managed to inject those sentiments into official government agencies policies and procedures.

Again they use those false statistics to prevent male victims from gaining access to shelters and even combat funding of shelters of abused males.

Than there is constant advocating for defining rape as something that only men can preform, for erosion of process of judgment for cases of rape by giving rape special status within criminal law

do I really need to go on?

Not all feminists are the same, but core ideas and goals of today's feminism are bankrupt and fighting not for equality but superiority. For exactly that reason i do not engage people as feminists but as individuals.

I don't label myself with anything. I believe that everyone should have equal rights but also that everyone have their freedom of choice, beliefs and action.
 

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AkaDad said:
My apologies. Feminism can be a worthy movement. And if it floats your boat? You go hauss.

Equality or humanism is what I support. Less baggage.
 

AkaDad

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carnex said:
AkaDad said:
Feminists have been fighting to end the ban against gay marriage. You shouldn't be so condescending, when you're so utterly wrong.
Members of movement also constantly portrays intimate partner abuse/violence as almost exclusively problem of male abuser and female victim when truth is that it's more or less equally distributed between genders. And the fact that they managed to inject those sentiments into official government agencies policies and procedures.

Again they use those false statistics to prevent male victims from gaining access to shelters and even combat funding of shelters of abused males.

Than there is constant advocating for defining rape as something that only men can preform, for erosion of process of judgment for cases of rape by giving rape special status within criminal law

do I really need to go on?

Not all feminists are the same, but core ideas and goals of today's feminism are bankrupt and fighting not for equality but superiority. For exactly that reason i do not engage people as feminists but as individuals.
If you believe all the data is false and abuse/violence toward men and women are equal, then there's no point in having a discussion with you. Just like I don't argue with people that believe the Earth is 6,000 years old.
 

AkaDad

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DC_78 said:
AkaDad said:
My apologies. Feminism can be a worthy movement. And if it floats your boat? You go hauss.

Equality or humanism is what I support. Less baggage.
No worries. That's cool, I get it, there's been a concerted effort over the years to trash feminism and Liberalism.
 

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Pretty sure it's seen as a mild curse in England. Yet, in the US it's a pretty offensive word. I've known plenty of people who absolutely hated the word and would never use it or allow others to use it.
Not mild as such (at least in my corner of the country), it's still the 'harshest' of the common array of curses. But unlike the US, it's not gendered, so there's a lot less stigma around using it. Americans really seem to shy away from the word in all circumstances, whereas while I wouldn't use it around the family, none of my mates would look askance if I told them about some **** in a BMW that almost ran me over.
 

carnex

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AkaDad said:
If you believe all the data is false and abuse/violence toward men and women are equal, then there's no point in having a discussion with you. Just like I don't argue with people that believe the Earth is 6,000 years old.
If you are going to be like that than I'm sorry to her that. As I said, everyone is free in this world to believe whatever they like. This is internet forum, thus place beckoning of real intellectual debate thus I wish you farewell and have a good life.

Or, you know, you could present me with evidence that I'm wrong. One that actually doesn't come from feminist sources or sources that draw data from sources that are under influence of predominant aggressor policies. I know that leaves only independent research that collects self reported data but than again, it's only source that is not tainted by any ideology.

Forgot to add, if you are going to do that, send me PM, this is not the place.
 

The Lunatic

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AkaDad said:
Feminists have been fighting to end the ban against gay marriage. You shouldn't be so condescending, when you're so utterly wrong.
Feminists, sure.

"Feminists". Not so much.

They mostly just see to whine on tumblr.
 

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Saika Renegade said:
I propose the phrase "Single-Perspective Extremist Wiseling." The phrase denotes the singular and narrow focus of the individual due to a disregard for the perspectives of others, the considerable lengths a persistent and dedicated invidiual will go to in order to make a point, and the common (but not universal) presumption of possessing wisdom beyond their years or their peers albeit written in the most polite way I could find in the dictionary (or at least more polite than the first word starting with W that came to mind).

As "Single-Perspective Extremist Wiselings" is an unwieldy phrase, it can be constructively shortened to just SPEWs, which I think is both a convenient and rather evocative acroynm. It's also inoffensive in social circles, as no one can claim that any category of people is being treated pejoratively with the term. Because the phrase and the words comprising it are perfectly neutral and can apply accurately to any possible individual, it simply becomes descriptive of the individual's behavior as opposed to referential of a group or stereotype.

Mhh "Spew" actually sounds good, if one wants to up the ante it can be adapted to
"single-perspective-extremist-wanker"
if one wants to address that males (probably) make up the bigger part of the spews

plus it can be used in the sense that most of what they do is "to spew bile"

To those who brought up the issue of division, that´s kinda the purpose to differentiate those from the gamers so the media has a harder time throwing gamers into the same buckets with them.
When media addresses those people as gamers its not because the play video games but for being single minded extremists.
However since there is no further differentiation they default back to gamer and thus potentially insult and vilify all gamers by doing so.

Look at it like having a gangrenous pinky toe. I would rather just chop the toe of then risk loosing the entire foot.
 

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The Lunatic said:
AkaDad said:
Feminists have been fighting to end the ban against gay marriage. You shouldn't be so condescending, when you're so utterly wrong.
Feminists, sure.

"Feminists". Not so much.

They mostly just see to whine on tumblr.
Thats the difference i see between feminists and feminazis

femininist: advocates or supports the rights and equality of women

feminazi: OMG! STOP OPPRESSING MY FEMALININITY YOU MISOGYNISTIC PIG!!!
 

Baron von Blitztank

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Presses CTRL + F on Page 1
Searches for '****'
Search was found 91 times.

Escapist, you've made me proud to call this place my internet home.

OT: Yep, going with **** as well.
No matter who you are, what you do, what your interests are or what your gender is. You start being a **** to people, you're going to be called out on being a ****.
 

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Sassafrass said:
Daystar Clarion said:
Cunts?

Like all the other cunts that aren't on the internet?

Don't see how being into gaming doesn't make a **** not a ****.
Gotta agree with ****.

It rolls so nicely off the tongue as well.
I see what you did there.

Seriously though, I don't see the need for a gaming-specific word for someone being an asshat. We have more than enough words for that kind of behaviour, why should we assume that this is something only gamers are capable of?
 

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ExileNZ said:
Seriously though, I don't see the need for a gaming-specific word for someone being an asshat. We have more than enough words for that kind of behaviour, why should we assume that this is something only gamers are capable of?
I think **** is quite fitting but lets engage in a little thought experiment.
Someone who has no connection to games reads an article about e.g. a woman being harassed online and finds the word refering to the person guilty of said harassment.
That person might not know the term used and googles it. If the result is just a random insult like **** they might see that this person is being justly insulted but thats it, they are just insulted.
But if that person looks up the definition and finds something along the line "person who harasses people online, sends death threads because his game got a content patch etc." and then something like" shunned in online forums and gaming" then this sends a clear message to the world that the gaming community opposes those people.

If we can change the meaning of the word **** to that, awesome^^ i just don´t think that will happen.

The "power" of the word increased the more people use it, hence why i should be something that´s catchy enough to....well catch on and its meaning should be discernible from the term itself.
 

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So just how many of the people that are cheering for the word **** would be the types to jump straight down your throat for applying it to a woman even under a new meaning?

Most of them?

Yeah, most of them.
 

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Sassafrass said:
Daystar Clarion said:
Cunts?

Like all the other cunts that aren't on the internet?

Don't see how being into gaming doesn't make a **** not a ****.
Gotta agree with ****.

It rolls so nicely off the tongue as well.
Decrying misogyny by referring to those who engage in it with a gendered term is a very bad idea if you ask me.
 

Colour Scientist

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VanQ said:
So just how many of the people that are cheering for the word **** would be the types to jump straight down your throat for applying it to a woman even under a new meaning?

Most of them?

Yeah, most of them.
Care to provide examples?

No, I didn't think so.

By all means though, continue to get annoyed at things that no one has done.

Uriel_Hayabusa said:
Decrying misogyny by referring to those who engage in it with a gendered term is a very bad idea if you ask me.
It's a joke.

I know the forums don't seem to take those very well anymore but I assure you, that's what it is.