A public beating... against a child

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blackguard89

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Hmm...I dunno what to say.
I believe China is still in comunist mode or something....So you might want to take into consideration the propaganda being pumped into people's brains every day there :|

Also even if it weren't, I couldn't say I'm surprised. Welcome to the nasty side of humanity people.You might be surprised how society and other stuff can affect some people, and make them turn out.
 
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TheDooD said:
Sexual Harassment Panda said:
The7Sins said:
Sexual Harassment Panda said:
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Well the kid supposedly was a thief. If so IMO they did not beat him enough. They should have continued to knocked out or just go the Vegas route and cut off one of his hands. Basically scar him for life and make him remember to never ever ever steal.
Are you sure that's all that happens when you physically "educate" a child though? Maybe he wouldn't steal again(and I mean "maybe"), but it's pretty fucking dumb to think that the effects end there.

I don't think children can handle beatings, period. I also think there's something perverse about adults that are willing to dole out beatings to children.
I would not care what the extra side effects would be. If it caused him to not steal again then it was for the good. Being emotionally or physically scarred for life is merely part of the consequences the punishment for theft would bring.
If I'm doing something, I like to aim for an optimal outcome...that's just me.

The idea that hitting kids can fuck them up, isn't exactly wacky and unsubstantiated. You're not only warping them in abstract and intangible ways, you're also teaching them that hitting is how issues are resolved.

When the kid frustrates you and you snap and decide that smacking the undeveloped(mentally and physically)person is the way to go, your body gives you a nice chemical reward for getting rid of that aggression. That reward makes you more likely to be aggressive the next time something ticks you off...slippery slope from there.

It really is in societies best interests to keep the aggression contained.
Holding in aggression only leads to bigger explosions of rage and or other stress related illnesses. Plus sometimes kids are THAT fucking annoying that you just have to pop'em one because they aren't smart enough for reason so the pop teaches them instantly not to do whatever they did.

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Where in the fuck are the kid's parents.
I've always thought that was overstated, Oprah kind of bullshit. You keep your anti-social urges bottled, or you alienate everyone around you. Your stress is your problem/malfunction, working on yourself seems like a better option than lashing out.

When you smack a kid, you're not teaching it much other than "violence solves problems, your natural role-model seems to think so"...or possibly that you're an idiot that they should get away from at the first chance that they get. When your kids leave and never visit/call you know you've fucked up, because a loving and respectful family is a joy to have.

I don't accept the notion that it's a necessary evil either. If you've earned your offspring's respect, you don't need violence at all, you can destroy them with words...they're really not thick-skinned at all.
 

michiehoward

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Wow and just this morning I read in the paper that China executes the most people annually. Around 4,000 people a year.

Here's hoping this group will in 2012's lot.

After the finger crushing I couldn't watch anymore, since my son in the approx same age as this child. Where the fuck are the parents, or guardians. And really that not one of those fucks would stand up and call this barbaric and disgusting makes me sick to my stomach.
 

Shilefin

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Ha ha. That's funny. If i was there i'd capture them and slowly torture them all to death. Some people say i overreact.
 

Robert Ewing

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Damn, that sucks.

Although the Chinese are known to be incredibly racist toward whites, when I went there I got ambushed by a few racist men, they were chanting 'die whitey' in Engrish. Luckily I realized that they are not all martial artists, so I promptly returned the ass beating favor. But on the other hand, we don't know the full story, the kid could of done something.
 

DanielBrown

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Fronken said:
Much like a social experiment they did in Norway many years ago, cant remember exacly where/when though, but what they did was they hired a male and a female actor/actress, who then went to a certain street, where the male actor started harrassing the female, *****-slapping her and pulling her hair, screaming at her and spitting on her, pretty much every nasty thing someone can do to another person, it took over 20 minutes of abuse until someone actually stopped him, and this was on a very busy street.
I've seen a simular experiment(not sure where) where they did the same thing, but shifted the roles back and forth. When the man was abusive to the woman people stepped in often and quickly, confronting the man and protecting the woman, but when the woman attacked the man people just laughed and pointed. Even a police officer who walked by didn't give a shit when the man was the submissive one.
When the bystanders got confronted by the camera crew those that saw a man beating a woman said they thought he was a pig and should be put in jail(or simular). Those that saw a woman beating a man thought he deserved it.
I think it was done in USA though. It's can be very different depending on the country. If you did that test in Sweden, where I'm from, you'd probably get the same results as in Norway. "Thanks" to the Jante law we're all pretty avoidant of confrontations.

OT: Horrible video, but I would prefer to know the real story behind this. Still very awful to see them gang up on a little kid like that.
 

Batou667

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Here we go again.

Video without crucial introduction or context + misleading video title + forum full of people willing to outdo eachother in righteousness = sh*tstorm.

It's an old video and IIRC the kid isn't white, he's a subculture of Chinese (not that that should change anything) and he was being punished for stealing. In some parts of the world he would have had his hand cut off, being made to cry is positively tame in comparison.

It's a big world and somewhere out there bad stuff is happening every second of every day. I for one don't have the mental or emotional capacity to get genuinely worked up about every last injustice.
 

TheDooD

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Sexual Harassment Panda said:
TheDooD said:
Sexual Harassment Panda said:
The7Sins said:
Sexual Harassment Panda said:
The7Sins said:
Well the kid supposedly was a thief. If so IMO they did not beat him enough. They should have continued to knocked out or just go the Vegas route and cut off one of his hands. Basically scar him for life and make him remember to never ever ever steal.
Are you sure that's all that happens when you physically "educate" a child though? Maybe he wouldn't steal again(and I mean "maybe"), but it's pretty fucking dumb to think that the effects end there.

I don't think children can handle beatings, period. I also think there's something perverse about adults that are willing to dole out beatings to children.
I would not care what the extra side effects would be. If it caused him to not steal again then it was for the good. Being emotionally or physically scarred for life is merely part of the consequences the punishment for theft would bring.
If I'm doing something, I like to aim for an optimal outcome...that's just me.

The idea that hitting kids can fuck them up, isn't exactly wacky and unsubstantiated. You're not only warping them in abstract and intangible ways, you're also teaching them that hitting is how issues are resolved.

When the kid frustrates you and you snap and decide that smacking the undeveloped(mentally and physically)person is the way to go, your body gives you a nice chemical reward for getting rid of that aggression. That reward makes you more likely to be aggressive the next time something ticks you off...slippery slope from there.

It really is in societies best interests to keep the aggression contained.
Holding in aggression only leads to bigger explosions of rage and or other stress related illnesses. Plus sometimes kids are THAT fucking annoying that you just have to pop'em one because they aren't smart enough for reason so the pop teaches them instantly not to do whatever they did.

OT

Where in the fuck are the kid's parents.
I've always thought that was overstated, Oprah kind of bullshit. You keep your anti-social urges bottled, or you alienate everyone around you. Your stress is your problem/malfunction, working on yourself seems like a better option than lashing out.

When you smack a kid, you're not teaching it much other than "violence solves problems, your natural role-model seems to think so"...or possibly that you're an idiot that they should get away from at the first chance that they get. When your kids leave and never visit/call you know you've fucked up, because a loving and respectful family is a joy to have.

I don't accept the notion that it's a necessary evil either. If you've earned your offspring's respect, you don't need violence at all, you can destroy them with words...they're really not thick-skinned at all.
You're making it sound like a parent swatting a kid for acting like a fool is gonna damage them for when they're a teen / adult. I as an example been swatted for acting like a idiot because there was no getting through to me then because at the time respect was a song a sung poorly.

I didn't understand the concepts of personal space and leaving people alone. This happens to most kids they don't understand boundaries until pain is involved. Hell a majority of things in life are revolved learning that somethings really hurt. So it teaches us to either NOT do it or do it in a away to avoid pain.

You as an adult can have thick skin and pretend shit doesn't get to you because "society" deems negative emotions as below us or something like that. That's far from right way of doing things. Stress is a two way street it's caused by an outward force and how you react to it. It's not a completely inner personal thing that someone can instantly just brush off the moment shit happen. If that was true PTSD wouldn't even exist. It's all about control. When an outward / inward force is too much for the person to handle they'll snap and or just breakdown.

You last point you can destroy them with words...they're really not thick-skinned at all you can only destroy them with words only when they understand the words that are being yelled at them. Remember I'm talking about young kids 4-8 not knowing any better. Also kids are more likely to hate their parents for what they say to them. Then a mild pop to indicate that what they were doing or was about to do was wrong.
 

Flailing Escapist

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On a side note did anyone else read the comments of the video on that site? Some of them I feel are worse than the video itself. Difference between moderated and unmoderated sites? We'll never know.
 

EeveeElectro

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Why...why the actual fuck did people just sit there and watch? No one tried to call the police? I don't care if they were bigger and tougher than me (which they probably aren't) I'd intervene and sort them out.
then again, I don't know what it's like in China and I dunno if this stuff happens regularly. And I'm not going to generalise the whole country, but I think some places there need better laws and better people.
 

GaltarDude1138

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Pfft, that's just the way people in China greet each other. Everyone there knows the Kung Fu Kick Greeting...

OT: Does anyone really know the context of this anyways? Does anyone know what they are saying in the video? My Chinese is a little...well, nonexistent.
 

lRookiel

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I gotta resist saying something I'd get punished for but hell thats just wrong on so many levels......

Fucking disgusting people.
 

William Ossiss

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kids either going to grow up racist, or become a serial killer for all the atrocities put against him.

sad but true
 

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blackguard89 said:
Hmm...I dunno what to say.
I believe China is still in comunist mode or something....So you might want to take into consideration the propaganda being pumped into people's brains every day there :|

Also even if it weren't, I couldn't say I'm surprised. Welcome to the nasty side of humanity people.You might be surprised how society and other stuff can affect some people, and make them turn out.
Communism isn't the cause of this. I have no idea where you get your facts, but communism is just that everyone is created equal. no class system. no rich, no poor. you work to live, not to make money. do your job, and get food and a place to live. the only unfortunate thing from it is that the government has a secret rule that some people are more equal than others. namely those in power. Besides, the whole "MERICA vs communists" was simply planned economy (communism) vs capitalism. You know where that got us? through almost TWO great depressions and more debt than we care to talk about.

No, this could have happened anywhere. It's just that in "modern" countries, people would have put on an act of giving a damn and punishing the people who did this. This could be any kid, from any country, of any race. Hey! guess what? there's a little known truth about this world that not many people know. HUMANS SUCK.