A question about the Avengers

[njrk97]

Yes we all know that movie was great having iron man, thor hulk ect was good. But one problem... WHY the hell did they chose Tony Stark for the avengers When James Rhodes is better trained more disciplined and self controlled than Tony Stark could ever be. It boggles my mind lets get the self centered narcissistic 'doesn't play well with others' guy in a high tech suit on the avengers instead of the military trained self contained follows orders guy in a high tech suit.


Your thoughts on this?

 

[Kae]

I have no idea, I wondered that too since they teased that at the ending of Iron Man 2.

 

[Leemaster777]

He'll probably be in the sequel. If you recall from the movie, they were more trying to PREVENT the aliens from invading, rather than actively fighting them. They needed Tony's scientific prowess, not really his suit. And if you recall, Tony himself said that he didn't qualify for the Avengers, and that the Avengers project itself was scrapped.

You could argue that him not showing up during the final battle is a bit of a plot hole, but that's easily fixed if you say that he was on the other side of the planet at that moment.

 

[Basement Cat]

Stark has the brains.

In the movie the guy named Phil hands Pepper Potts the technical data which Pepper then obliges Tony Stark to study. The very next day all the Avengers are gathered together and someone asks Tony when he became an expert on something-something physics and Tony says "Last night." Rhodes would have been no better off than Captain America or any of the others besides Bruce Banner.

It's Tony's brain that's his greatest asset.

That's why they pulled him in instead of James Rhodes.

 

[FalloutJack]

Answer.

Well, aside from the fact that Stark can have muliple versions of suits as needed and James has only the one to work with (and no Jarvis support), there is the...


...genius millionaire playboy philanthropist part. Stark was needed for his actual genius to collab with Banner. James could not have provided anything beyond fighting capability.

 

[Dangit2019]

Originally, they picked him more for his technical genius, but like Bruce Banner, he ended up uses his powers in the end to provide the wonderful splosion fest climax.

 

[Asita]

Well by virtue of the suit alone, Iron Man is at least on par with War Machine. Why choose him over the more disciplined Rhoddy, though? Well for starters, Rhoddy can't upgrade or even do proper maintenance on his own suit simply for lack of technical know-how, which gives Tony an edge in the suit category. Couple that with his resources, adaptability and considerable intellect and Stark has a clear advantage in most categories other than attitude, and even in that he has shown that when the chips are down he's willing to do what needs to be done even if it involves personal sacrifice. And let's be honest, the brains alone would be reason to consider him. On the whole, despite attitude issues, Stark actually is the more solid choice due to what he adds to the team.


And, in a more meta sense, because the original Avengers team debuted before War Machine (Avenger comics: 1963. War Machine debut: 1979)

 

[DJ_DEnM]

As previously mentioned here, he was recruited for his knowledge, not for his fighting capabilities. It ended up becoming a war.

 

[Owyn_Merrilin]

Behind the scenes answer, the actor who played Roady (is that how you spell his nickname?)didn't want to be in the movie. In universe, who knows? He seems to have been conveniently forgotten.

 

[JimB]

Rhodey, I'm pretty sure. Possibly Rhodie, but I don't think so.

 

[Lizardon]

Fury said at the end of Iron Man 2 that they didn't want Tony for the Avengers because of his psychological profile. If I remember correctly Tony brings it up again at the start of the movie. But like others have already said SHIELD didn't want Iron Man, they wanted Stark's brain to help locate the Tesseract, just like how they wanted Banner, not the Hulk.

 

[Dimitriov]

Answer.

Well, aside from the fact that Stark can have muliple versions of suits as needed and James has only the one to work with (and no Jarvis support), there is the...


...genius millionaire playboy philanthropist part. Stark was needed for his actual genius to collab with Banner. James could not have provided anything beyond fighting capability.

That's BILLIONAIRE, son.

Just Saiyan

But yeah, Stark was brought along NOT as a member of the Avengers but as a scientist and engineer. He then just casually decided to involve himself whether anyone else approved or not.

 

[FalloutJack]

Answer.

Well, aside from the fact that Stark can have muliple versions of suits as needed and James has only the one to work with (and no Jarvis support), there is the...


...genius millionaire playboy philanthropist part. Stark was needed for his actual genius to collab with Banner. James could not have provided anything beyond fighting capability.

That's BILLIONAIRE, son.

Just Saiyan

But yeah, Stark was brought along NOT as a member of the Avengers but as a scientist and engineer. He then just casually decided to involve himself whether anyone else approved or not.

can YOU stop the genius with a powersuit from getting involved, especially when he's palling around with the Hulk? What's that? No? I didn't think so.

 

[malestrithe]

Magic= Thor.
Combat Prowess= Hawkeye.
Covert Ops = Black Widow
Military Tactics = Captain America
Muscle = Hulk (Be honest with yourself and forget how you Mark Ruffalo's performance. The team did not need the Banner half to succeed. They needed muscle more than the brains.)
Technology= Iron Man

Each one represents a different field of knowledge and expertise, something that the others sorely lacking.

They do not need two military experts in one team. They needed a tech expert more.

 

[bigfatcarp93]

Rhodes is a soldier first. Fury knew he need superheroes, not soldiers. Plus, Iron Man has more experience with the armor, and the genius to help find the Tesseract.

 

[rod_hynes]

Magic= Thor.
Combat Prowess= Hawkeye.
Covert Ops = Black Widow
Military Tactics = Captain America
Muscle = Hulk (Be honest with yourself and forget how you Mark Ruffalo's performance. The team did not need the Banner half to succeed. They needed muscle more than the brains.)
Technology= Iron Man

Each one represents a different field of knowledge and expertise, something that the others sorely lacking.

They do not need two military experts in one team. They needed a tech expert more.

Except they wouldn't have even found the artifact without Banner...

 

[malestrithe]

Magic= Thor.
Combat Prowess= Hawkeye.
Covert Ops = Black Widow
Military Tactics = Captain America
Muscle = Hulk (Be honest with yourself and forget how you Mark Ruffalo's performance. The team did not need the Banner half to succeed. They needed muscle more than the brains.)
Technology= Iron Man

Each one represents a different field of knowledge and expertise, something that the others sorely lacking.

They do not need two military experts in one team. They needed a tech expert more.

Except they wouldn't have even found the artifact without Banner...

Wow, that revelation changes nothing. Banner becomes nothing more than the plot device that keeps the plot moving forward. That role could have been filled by anyone, from Coulson to some unnamed SHIELD agent.

Banner's contribution to the movie amounts to nothing. Hulk does more for the movie than Banner ever did.