A question for metal fans.

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Vault101

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Yeah Im not sure about the whole screaming thing, thats why I love disturbed its like metal but with awsome vocals and singing

HOWEVER this is one song with screaming that I like Blut Im Auge by equilibrium, is it because ive listened to it over and over? mabye but for some it just...works

other than that I really cant stand screaming
 

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I usually dislike songs for exactly this reason, but in some situations I think it can really add to the song if used for effect.

Take In Flames, for example: the use of screaming outside of the chorus lends it a raised, powerful, controlled feel.

 

Klumpfot

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Meshuggah treat the vocals as a rhythmic instrument. A lot of the more extreme bands do. I quite like growled vocals, as they can add a lot of intensity (when done right). It can detract from the music though, as is the case with a lot of the recent whatevercore bands. That said, I'm not against clean vocals, but I don't think having the lyrics sung instead of growled would have improved Meshuggah's Bleed, for instance. Quite the contrary.

Also, you may want to look up their lyrics. They are fantastic.
 

Chased

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I used to listen to a lot of death metal (Death, Bolt Thrower, Gojira) but I've grown out of it. I love experimentation in music and though metal has some the vast majority of sounds incredibly similar to me. The issue with metal in general is that they sorta pigeonhole themselves into playing metal. Bands like Mogwai have metal influence but they don't feel the need to stick to that genre (which is why they're awesome!).

I like bands that just make music without even considering fitting into a genre. I saw an interview recently with Miike Snow and they were asked if they sat down and tried writing music to be in a certain genre and they said no. They just make what they enjoy listening too.

 

Valkyrie101

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I'm a big metal fan, but I hate, absolutely hate harsh, unclean vocals. It sounds ridiculous and it obscures the lyrics (which for most of these bands isn't such a bad thing). I stick to proper metal with proper vocals. I can take some screaming, as long as it's artful screaming, appropriate and mixed with largely clean singing.

NAHTZEE said:
sabaton's lead singer has an awsome voice
That he does. Joakim Broden manages to give off a growly, aggressive feel without actually distorting the vocals or humanity too much (although technically the vocals are clean, he just has a stupidly deep voice). And the end result is impressive indeed.
 

duktapeman90

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TestECull said:
Any yahoo can scream.
Very much not true. That's like saying anyone can sing. Anyone can do it, but it takes skill to do it well. And if you can do both well and transition between the two well, than your awesome in my book.
 

AVATAR_RAGE

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katsumoto03 said:
I agree to an extent. While some songs would be better without screaming vocals, for me it makes some songs worth listening to.

Take a band like, say, Amon Amarth. Their songs wouldn't sound right to me without the gutteral singing style.

Here's the song I'm talking about:


In my opinion the chorus would suck if sung normally.
I agree 100%. Death metal is not my favourite genre of metal but I do like a little bit of melodic death metal from time to time and Amon Amarth fills that gap. They project the emotion of the song though the music not the vocals which is very hard to do with a death metal song.

Honestly though I prefer power metal as my go to source of metal.
 

Drakane

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I really like a lot of growling music... case in point Meshuggah, I think they are amazing. But I do have a cut off point. Bands like cannable corpse and the such are sometimes to much for me.



Ps... the redneck video is awsome imo
 

AVATAR_RAGE

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Flames66 said:
I'm finding most metal far too heavy for my tastes at the moment. If the throaty vocals are in a song, I won't be listening.
My advice would be to listen to some power metal, bands like Symphony X, Firewind and Kamelot. These are very vocal based bands (as is all power metal) and in all three of them the lead singer has amazing voice.
 

Irony's Acolyte

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I don't mind it. It can really add to a song. I can see how some people wouldn't like it, it's an aquired taste. But I just feel that certain songs aren't as good without these gutteral vocals. Metal's never been about being "soft". Sure clear vocals can make a good metal song, as many of the earlier and "classic" metal bands have rather clear vocals.

But some genres just seem better with these styles of vocals. They're supposed to be rather harsh and extreme in sound, why limit it to just the instruments?
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amoamaremetallum

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Screaming adds a level of barbaric ferocity which is really just required in metal. The guy who posted that AA song is exactly right, there are just some songs which need it.
 

Nazz3

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Death growls can sound really awesome




Also, harsh vocals in metal are meant to fit in the music and in that they succeed in very well. And the Meshuggah track OP posted would have sounded a lot worse without the harsh vocals.

Another thing is that with black metal vocals the vocalist gets to really express his feelings
 

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Well, I love metal, but I'm not the biggest fan of 'cookie monster' vocals. I can deal with more death metal/deathcore style vocals (a la Parkway Drive), especially if it's not constantly througout (Howard Jones is great at both styles), but I prefer more traditional metal singing, in the style of John Bush, James Hetfield or Phil Anselmo.
 

Nazz3

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Also, I didnt like harsh vocals when I first started listening to metal but over time they grew on me more and more. Now, if done right, I really like them
 

wastedyouth89

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I think one important bit of info is that there is A LOT of metal out there. I thought your Meshuggah example was a good way to say what you were thinking. Luckily for you, you aren't the only one out there with this feeling.

I personally love the death growls and screaming. I think that's part of the attitude. But the key is that you're looking into bands like Opeth and Meshuggah. That's part of who they are and it's part of what makes them work. Now I have 2 suggestions for you if you're looking for some quality metal that won't make your ears bleed.

1. Find some melodic death metal. These are bands where the music is heavy and the vocals are growly, but where they really add to the experience. Bands like In Flames, Children of Bodom, Amon Amarth, and even Dethklok use the growly vocals to build the music. All of the sounds combine together to make a great sound.

2. Expand your horizons. There's a band for everyone. One I think you'd be interested in would be Pelican. Same heavy metal aggression with prog rock feels, similar to Mogwai. And no vocals. Very good band. Some others you could check out are God Is an Astronaut, Russian Circles, and Explosions in the Sky. Also look into some prog metal bands who effectively use singers, like Mastodon, Tool, Porcupine Tree, King's X, and Death. You may find some stuff you like.