Because anybody that says they enjoy casual sex must really mean that they hire prostitutes.Musclepunch said:
A question for our non-smoking, non-drinking, non-recreational-drugs-using, romance seeking Escapees
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Really I have been in both places at different points in my life. To be honest whether or not you are happy has almost nothing to do with whether you do or don't do those activities. It is all in the attitude you sport about life at the time. Alcohol and drugs can be fun, but no more fun then doing many other things. Casual sex is ok, but i honestly believe i get more sex being a serial monogamist than being a single player. I also enjoy the sex in relationships a fair bit more then not.
But to reiterate you can be happy with none or all of those things, you only need the right perspective. But that is not to downplay drugs alcohol or sex, they are choices in life just like any other they have risks and rewards, the same as even just crossing a street. When you cross a street you could be run down by a car, but if you are careful and responsible the rewards of getting to the other side of the street usually outweigh the risk. And that's kinda how life is.
But to reiterate you can be happy with none or all of those things, you only need the right perspective. But that is not to downplay drugs alcohol or sex, they are choices in life just like any other they have risks and rewards, the same as even just crossing a street. When you cross a street you could be run down by a car, but if you are careful and responsible the rewards of getting to the other side of the street usually outweigh the risk. And that's kinda how life is.
I don't believe people when they say they like the taste of alchohol. They drink beer? I have never had a beer that didn't taste like crap. That's usually how I know that a person doesn't drink for any reason but to dull their senses and forget about life while pissing in their girlfriend's gas tank. They drink peach Schnapps, rum and coke, anything like that? Chances are that they genuinely like the taste and the feeling that it gives them, rather than what they don't have to focus on. I can get along well with the people in column B.
I kind of think the same thing goes for cigarettes vs. cigars. It's scary that cigars keep ending up cheaper than cigarettes because people are so addicted they don't care about quality. I'd definitely have a celebratory drink or cigar with a buddy when something good happens, but cigarettes are more complicated. I HATE the smell, the tar it leaves on everything, and the way some people can get so addicted to something that costs so much, but I understand why people choose to. There's a social aspect to it, they have different flavours (nothing like the good cigars, but still), and you get an excuse to get away from people you don't like ("that's great, hey, I need a smoke break).
Any drug beyond the soft stuff (cannabis/weed) is stupid as hell, and I'll stand by that. I've seen too many fine people turn into pathetic f**k-ups because of the hard drugs.
Kind of lost the point of the thread, huh? I don't indulge in any of these diversions, and I've been better off (it's more fun to be the sober guy with a camera than the one he's filming), except in the sexual category. I believe sex is better with a person you know inside and out, and really love, because it fulfills more than one deep human need, but how the f**k would I know? I haven't even had a one-night stand. Am I happy? No, because I feel like I haven't accomplished anything or have a clear future (pretty standard stuff) but besides that depressing sexual need I don't find that using drugs, alchohol and cigarettes will change that for the better.
I kind of think the same thing goes for cigarettes vs. cigars. It's scary that cigars keep ending up cheaper than cigarettes because people are so addicted they don't care about quality. I'd definitely have a celebratory drink or cigar with a buddy when something good happens, but cigarettes are more complicated. I HATE the smell, the tar it leaves on everything, and the way some people can get so addicted to something that costs so much, but I understand why people choose to. There's a social aspect to it, they have different flavours (nothing like the good cigars, but still), and you get an excuse to get away from people you don't like ("that's great, hey, I need a smoke break).
Any drug beyond the soft stuff (cannabis/weed) is stupid as hell, and I'll stand by that. I've seen too many fine people turn into pathetic f**k-ups because of the hard drugs.
Kind of lost the point of the thread, huh? I don't indulge in any of these diversions, and I've been better off (it's more fun to be the sober guy with a camera than the one he's filming), except in the sexual category. I believe sex is better with a person you know inside and out, and really love, because it fulfills more than one deep human need, but how the f**k would I know? I haven't even had a one-night stand. Am I happy? No, because I feel like I haven't accomplished anything or have a clear future (pretty standard stuff) but besides that depressing sexual need I don't find that using drugs, alchohol and cigarettes will change that for the better.
You know, it occurs to me that quite a few of the people posting here (myself included) don't really qualify for the things you're talking about. Funny, that.
I do drink - but not in excess or just because it's there. Its nice to have a beer or glass of wine every now and again, but people who rely on that too much end up getting addicted to it and are horrible to be around.
I try to keep myself myself, I don't want to be under the influence of a substance that changes how I act, how I think, and how I perceive the world around me. That means not drinking to drunkeness, smoking weed, or any of that garbage. I also don't smoke cigars or cigarettes because, quite frankly, the thought of putting a burning filter in my mouth and inhaling fumes does not rate up high on my list of entertaining things to do. The only reason anyone ever gets into that stuff is because of peer pressure and they stick doing it because of of the addicting nicotine.
As for happiness, well, I don't live my life to please myself, or at least I don't try to. I have a new life in Christ Jesus and I try to bring honor and glory to Him. I enjoy my life at times, I read books, watch movies, hang out with friends, I do all sorts of things that bring me pleasure. But I try to make sure that which brings me pleasure does not harm me or others, and does not bring dishoner to God.
I'm not married so I haven't had sex. Plain and simple. For me, and for Christians, its marraige then sex. There's no practice, just the real deal when its the right time. I know a young lady that I like, but I would never dishoner her as to try and take that gift from her or give her that gift which I possess prematurely.
I try to keep myself myself, I don't want to be under the influence of a substance that changes how I act, how I think, and how I perceive the world around me. That means not drinking to drunkeness, smoking weed, or any of that garbage. I also don't smoke cigars or cigarettes because, quite frankly, the thought of putting a burning filter in my mouth and inhaling fumes does not rate up high on my list of entertaining things to do. The only reason anyone ever gets into that stuff is because of peer pressure and they stick doing it because of of the addicting nicotine.
As for happiness, well, I don't live my life to please myself, or at least I don't try to. I have a new life in Christ Jesus and I try to bring honor and glory to Him. I enjoy my life at times, I read books, watch movies, hang out with friends, I do all sorts of things that bring me pleasure. But I try to make sure that which brings me pleasure does not harm me or others, and does not bring dishoner to God.
I'm not married so I haven't had sex. Plain and simple. For me, and for Christians, its marraige then sex. There's no practice, just the real deal when its the right time. I know a young lady that I like, but I would never dishoner her as to try and take that gift from her or give her that gift which I possess prematurely.
You know that thing about people's tastes being different? Yeah. I do like beer, the taste of it, I hate to get drunk by drinking beer, or just drinking a lot of beer. It makes me ill. If I want to drink a lot I'll go for (good) vodka or wine. I only drink what I like, but of course the high of the alcohol is a plus.PrototypeC said:
I started drinking small sips of beer from my father's glass since an early age. I do like the taste. Of course, many mass-market beers are awful. Americans drink a lot of Budweiser, the thing is like dirty water.
I don't drink because I have fun without getting smashed (and all booze tastes like piss). I don't do drugs or smoke, because that shit is nasty, although you're welcome to it if you want, it's your body. I do have casual encounters with my friends, because we know it's just for fun, and there is no harm done, unlike with boozing or drugs. I haven't had casual sex yet, but we do almost everything else.
In the end, do what you want, it's your life and your body.
In the end, do what you want, it's your life and your body.
... I'm too young for drinking, sex, and smoking, so I don't have much to say, other than that I am happy, and see no reason why these things would increase happiness (Minus sex).
Although, Sake tastes good. I've tried it once before. (It's a tradition for everyone in the family to have a small bit of champagne, even the kids. I chose Sake one year instead). Maybe when I'm older I'll understand how these things can make someone more happy, but at the moment, life is awesome without them.
Although, Sake tastes good. I've tried it once before. (It's a tradition for everyone in the family to have a small bit of champagne, even the kids. I chose Sake one year instead). Maybe when I'm older I'll understand how these things can make someone more happy, but at the moment, life is awesome without them.
Ok, so, I don't drink, smoke, do any form of drugs, and have never had sex. But, I'm still a pretty happy person.
I have many good friends who I can have fun with on a regular basis. I have a good summer job, and I'm heading off to University come September.
I'm only 18, so, in America, heading out to bar to drink isn't an option for me, and trying to sneak around my parent to drink or do drugs never really seemed to be worth the effort.
As for not having sex, well, its just never come up with any of the girls I know. I hang out with alot of girls, and my closest group of friends include 2 girls, (3 guys including myself) and we go out to movies, restaurants and stuff as a group. None of us are "involved" with each other, and that's just fine with us. We still have fun.
And when I'm 21, I'll probably go to bars and drink, and when I find the right person, I'll have sex. As for drugs, I'm gonna try and avoid that, as, of the people I know ho do use drugs regularly, they are pretty fucked up to say the least.
I have many good friends who I can have fun with on a regular basis. I have a good summer job, and I'm heading off to University come September.
I'm only 18, so, in America, heading out to bar to drink isn't an option for me, and trying to sneak around my parent to drink or do drugs never really seemed to be worth the effort.
As for not having sex, well, its just never come up with any of the girls I know. I hang out with alot of girls, and my closest group of friends include 2 girls, (3 guys including myself) and we go out to movies, restaurants and stuff as a group. None of us are "involved" with each other, and that's just fine with us. We still have fun.
And when I'm 21, I'll probably go to bars and drink, and when I find the right person, I'll have sex. As for drugs, I'm gonna try and avoid that, as, of the people I know ho do use drugs regularly, they are pretty fucked up to say the least.
Happiness is a state of mind. My drug is self-improvement and introspection.
I've tried many drugs; there isn't a single one which I haven't felt degraded my senses, and I have to be in complete control of myself at all times.
However: My best friend is just as happy as I am and used to use a LOT of hard-line drugs. a LOT.
I've tried many drugs; there isn't a single one which I haven't felt degraded my senses, and I have to be in complete control of myself at all times.
However: My best friend is just as happy as I am and used to use a LOT of hard-line drugs. a LOT.
I drink, smoke on parties, does drugs when there's the opportunity, and has sex (I wish) with loads of different women all the time.
But guess what? Still not happy.
But guess what? Still not happy.
I don't drink because I don't freaking want to and my family has a history of alcohol abuse. I don't smoke because I don't freaking want to and hate the smell. I don't have casual sex because I really don't want kids or STDs, and I don't see how one can avoid having one or both of those with casual sex with people one doesn't really know all that well. I do have a girlfriend and we've done pretty much everything but at this point.
I've got a few close friends, some fun hobbies, a great relationship (in general) with my family, a girl who seems compatible with me to an insane level (who gets along great with the aforementioned family), I'm working towards a degree... About the only thing that ISN'T good is I can't seem to shake my irritated throat, but that's because it's hot and dry here. Oh, and the job market sucks.
I don't see how my life would be improved by being drunk and killing brain cells/my liver, smoking and putting myself at something like 40x risk for lung cancer, doing drugs and maybe getting caught and sent to prison/fined, or having casual sex and betraying my girlfriend's trust, maybe getting an STD, possibly even getting somebody pregnant.
I think my life is pretty awesome. If you don't agree, the cool thing is it isn't your life and you don't freaking have to live it.
I've got a few close friends, some fun hobbies, a great relationship (in general) with my family, a girl who seems compatible with me to an insane level (who gets along great with the aforementioned family), I'm working towards a degree... About the only thing that ISN'T good is I can't seem to shake my irritated throat, but that's because it's hot and dry here. Oh, and the job market sucks.
I don't see how my life would be improved by being drunk and killing brain cells/my liver, smoking and putting myself at something like 40x risk for lung cancer, doing drugs and maybe getting caught and sent to prison/fined, or having casual sex and betraying my girlfriend's trust, maybe getting an STD, possibly even getting somebody pregnant.
I think my life is pretty awesome. If you don't agree, the cool thing is it isn't your life and you don't freaking have to live it.
I've done all of those things to excess, except maybe drugs, just the occasional smoke of weed is alright with me. I'd say I'm happy, but not BECAUSE of them, because of my friends. Before I had them, I did the same thing, drinking, drugs, casual sex (It's very easy to just go out on Canal Street and pull), but I wasn't particularly happy. Now I've found friends who make me laugh, make me happy, and I still do it.
To me, drugs, drinking, smoking, sex, they're all fun distractions, but my life would be a lot worse if I didn't have friends who also did these things. I think I'd be equally happy not doing 'em, saving the brief fun one can have through these things.
To me, drugs, drinking, smoking, sex, they're all fun distractions, but my life would be a lot worse if I didn't have friends who also did these things. I think I'd be equally happy not doing 'em, saving the brief fun one can have through these things.
I don't drink or smoke or do drugs. I've never really wanted to. Smoking, it fucks up your health bad, makes you stink and I personally don't like the idea of smoke in my lungs. Drinking, I don't like the taste of Alcohol (I've tried a lot.). Drugs, addiction scares the shit out of me, and I've lost a few good friends because they started taking drugs and ditched me, and my family has friends who've died because of them. No problems with sex, so long as you take care of the responsibilities, though I currently am not. I don't care about what others do, it's their life to fuck up or savour as they see fit.
Well said OP. My philosophy is:
"If it feels groovy, and doesn't harm anyone, then do it."
I'm cool with you if you abstain from everything, but I do think you might be a bit close-minded. How can you know what feel groovy if you don't try things that might feel groovy.
P.S. I'm quite a bit surprised at how many straight Joes and Janes this site has.
"If it feels groovy, and doesn't harm anyone, then do it."
I'm cool with you if you abstain from everything, but I do think you might be a bit close-minded. How can you know what feel groovy if you don't try things that might feel groovy.
P.S. I'm quite a bit surprised at how many straight Joes and Janes this site has.
I have my reasons for not smoking, drinking, or doing drugs. I'm perfectly fine staying away from those things, even if everyone else things doing any one of those things is awesome.
As for the sex... I blame that on a lack of decent social skills. So I'm unhappy about that... but content about the rest.
As for the sex... I blame that on a lack of decent social skills. So I'm unhappy about that... but content about the rest.