A Question for Political Correct People

[Beefcakes]

Yeah sounds like the OP is full of feminist bullshit. Where every act of sex is rape what a load of bollocks.

If you want to insult me, feel free, but be a little clearer, I can't tell if thats directed at me or not.

Also:

$20 a month will not persuade them otherwise.

AngloDoom, how many days are in a month??

They get weekends off

Snap

 

[Psypherus]

What the fuck. If this shit comes to Canada I better also be getting paid $1 a day for not getting a chick pregnant

 

[Lexodus]

I, just now, watched the news on T.V., and saw a story thats confused me in reference to its political correctness and sexism

In America, a new school program has been developed thats gives female teenagers US$1 a day in return for not getting pregnant, in order to combat the rapidly declining average birth age which has become apparent as of late

Now first off, I'm not one to fret over political correct statements, I wouldn't even bat an eye lid if I was called a/n "*explicit* Australian, doing all this bad stuff and such".

But doesn't this new program developed seem a little off to any one else? Or is it just me?
I feel its insinuating that women are responsible if they get pregnant (which is of course, wrong), and as such are the ones who need to be persuaded otherwise.
Also, should men be getting some incentive to not get women pregnant?

Or should I just dismiss this and say that while this may not be the best thing to do overall, its the best thing they could possibly do, given the circumstances.

Am I over thinking things, fellow Escapists?
Or do you also feel uneasy about this story?

Edit: Source:http://www.theadmonition.com/?p=1040
And another, kindly provided by Sauvastika http://www.wxii12.com/health/19843503/detail.html

I call sexism. How come I'M not being paid to not get pregnant?

 

[Lexodus]

Can I just ask for a clarification here? Do we really have people suggesting that women should shoulder the entirety of the blame for accidental pregnancies?

Sadly, reading some of the comments here, like these:

Also, it is true that women are responsible for getting pregnant, unless they were raped. They have a choice to have sex or not.

It is the woman's fault if she gets pregnant. You can't try and pass that off to the guy. She made the choice to have sex, and must suffer any, and all, consequences that it entails.

You shouldnt have to bribe girls to stop them getting pregnant at an early age, its just nuts and as far as I know the school system is strapped for cash as it is. Why dont they just tackle the root of the problem and find out why girls are having babies so young and educate them on why its a fucking stupid idea.

I would have to say the answer to you question is a headdesky "yes." Some people are putting the blame entirely on the women, basically slut-shaming them by saying they should have kept their legs closed.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DE9llClgTqY .
Fails for you.
However, I do agree; the responsibility falls on the male as well. So WE should be paid as well, if this is going ahead

 

[Del-Toro]

Thing is that women are responsible for their own actions, unless it was a case of rape, were that the case than all would be forgiven for her, her rapist on the other hand....

That's beside the point, the point is that feminism is about women having freedom and choice over their actions, I am totally on board with equality, but I believe that any freedom, regardless of whom it is held by, comes with responsibility for those actions and that making somebody face the consequences is not wrong, hence my pro-life standpoint. One interesting theory is that it be made so any woman can have an abortion once if we're talking about a fetus created by her own promiscuity but after that she shapes up or ships out to the maternity ward. This is a good way of going about it but I am still opposed to the idea of a "free pass" unless the woman in question was raped, in which case it's humanitarian and restorative, sort of.

Besides, in a consentual situation a man can only impregnate a woman if she puts out so whatever unwanted thing happens to her at that point is her own fault, women stand to lose the most so it's up to them to preserve their interests as far as sexuality goes hence condoms and abstinence.

At any rate, something like this coming out of the states is unsuprising since their moral standards and capacity for self control is getting lower with each generation and this next one doesn't stand to fix it.

 

[yeah_so_no]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DE9llClgTqY.
Fails for you.
However, I do agree; the responsibility falls on the male as well. So WE should be paid as well, if this is going ahead

"The URL contained a malformed video ID."

What was that about "fails"...?

 

[Del-Toro]

Why do governments keep paying people NOT to fuck up? Why not just punish them for fucking up and pay the guys who actually deserve it?

That's what I am thinking, we need to really slim down the welfare program I'm tired of our tax dollars going to Latesha, who is in her 3rd pregnancy and not married or working the dumb slut. Take the kids away to an orphanage and put Latesha to work in the factories for minimum wage, then find every woman who has ever done a pregnancy test on Maury and do the exact same thing.

 

[Lexodus]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DE9llClgTqY .
Fails for you.
However, I do agree; the responsibility falls on the male as well. So WE should be paid as well, if this is going ahead

"The URL contained a malformed video ID."

What was that about "fails"...?

The full stop added to the end of the link. Fucking full stops... let me fix that...

 

[CoconutTequila]

Thing is that women are responsible for their own actions, unless it was a case of rape, were that the case than all would be forgiven for her, her rapist on the other hand....

That's beside the point, the point is that feminism is about women having freedom and choice over their actions, I am totally on board with equality, but I believe that any freedom, regardless of whom it is held by, comes with responsibility for those actions and that making somebody face the consequences is not wrong, hence my pro-life standpoint. One interesting theory is that it be made so any woman can have an abortion once if we're talking about a fetus created by her own promiscuity but after that she shapes up or ships out to the maternity ward. This is a good way of going about it but I am still opposed to the idea of a "free pass" unless the woman in question was raped, in which case it's humanitarian and restorative, sort of.

Besides, in a consentual situation a man can only impregnate a woman if she puts out so whatever unwanted thing happens to her at that point is her own fault, women stand to lose the most so it's up to them to preserve their interests as far as sexuality goes hence condoms and abstinence.

At any rate, something like this coming out of the states is unsuprising since their moral standards and capacity for self control is getting lower with each generation and this next one doesn't stand to fix it.

I pretty much agree with everything said here. Which isn't to say if the woman does get pregnant the man has nothing to do with it (as someone has already said, it takes two to tango and he holds equal responsibility) but if a man insists on sex without a condom the woman CAN say no. Going on about peer pressure etc. is just making excuses. If a teenage girl doesn't realise she has a right to say no whatever the circumstances then there's something fundamentally wrong with the system and that should be fixed before throwing money at the problem like this.

Also, are the pill and/or injection free in the states? If not, that's another thing that would be a much better investment tan a flimsy payment scheme.

 

[Mackinator]

And it will be so easy too!

rofl. You mean, mean person.

Why? Because I'm a man, man...

 

[cainstwin]

Thing is that women are responsible for their own actions, unless it was a case of rape, were that the case than all would be forgiven for her, her rapist on the other hand....

That's beside the point, the point is that feminism is about women having freedom and choice over their actions, I am totally on board with equality, but I believe that any freedom, regardless of whom it is held by, comes with responsibility for those actions and that making somebody face the consequences is not wrong, hence my pro-life standpoint. One interesting theory is that it be made so any woman can have an abortion once if we're talking about a fetus created by her own promiscuity but after that she shapes up or ships out to the maternity ward. This is a good way of going about it but I am still opposed to the idea of a "free pass" unless the woman in question was raped, in which case it's humanitarian and restorative, sort of.

Besides, in a consentual situation a man can only impregnate a woman if she puts out so whatever unwanted thing happens to her at that point is her own fault, women stand to lose the most so it's up to them to preserve their interests as far as sexuality goes hence condoms and abstinence.

At any rate, something like this coming out of the states is unsuprising since their moral standards and capacity for self control is getting lower with each generation and this next one doesn't stand to fix it.

I pretty much agree with everything said here. Which isn't to say if the woman does get pregnant the man has nothing to do with it (as someone has already said, it takes two to tango and he holds equal responsibility) but if a man insists on sex without a condom the woman CAN say no. Going on about peer pressure etc. is just making excuses. If a teenage girl doesn't realise she has a right to say no whatever the circumstances then there's something fundamentally wrong with the system and that should be fixed before throwing money at the problem like this.

Also, are the pill and/or injection free in the states? If not, that's another thing that would be a much better investment tan a flimsy payment scheme.

saying peer pressure is an excuse in this situation is like saying drink driving is making excusees for bad driving. Its a well known fact that peer pressure affects ur ability to make rational non-moronic decisions, and im afraid looking at my average fellow man we're the sort of idiots that would advocate this poor decision making.