A question for you, escapists.

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Jake Lewis Clayton

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sam42ification said:
but i'm no where near smart enough to come close to that.
"Everybody is a genius, but if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid" - acredited to einstein (may or may not be him)

Everyone has their worth, and their own pool of knowledge that no-one else knows.

You never know what you may accomplish in life, even when it's nearly over.
 

weker

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genericusername64 said:
weker said:
And I answered that question, so I don't know what your on about. I take it you haven't bothered to look up and see my other post, as my reply to you was totally based around what you wrote not the OP.
You wrote "Some respect life, but some just respect their own more, I value my life and wouldn't give it up (sept maybe for my children or something) as it's the only thing I have and only get one." Giving up your life has nothing to do with my post or his post, and in this case respecting your life more than others is called Greed
I won't bother debating how our post are related as you don't seem to understand how, which confuses me.
Also Greed is about possession, wealth and power, wanting to live is self preservation not greed.
 

OriginalLadders

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Balancing greed, the overpopulation of the planet and my opinion on the intelligence of the average person.

Oh hell yeah. I'd press the button at least five times, just to make sure.
 

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retyopy said:
So here's the deal. You now have a big red button. You press it, your every whim will be catered to for the rest of your obscenely long life, and you will stay fit and healthy throughout.

But heres the catch.

You press that button, 5 people die. [...]
That's where I pressed the button... >_>
 

weker

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retyopy said:
genericusername64 said:
retyopy said:
Wow, the people of the escapist are a lot nicer than me. Go figure. Not changing my answer, though.
Since you don't have any respect for human life, I guess some people have to, I wouldn't press it.
I have respect for human life. Specifically, humans that I love and cherish,like my family and friends. I find it hard to care about 5 pople that I will never meet. I know it's immoral. I know it's cruel. I would be guilty. But I would do it anyway.
Firstly you always make good threads Retyopy XD

The thing about pushing the button is it would stop you feeling guilty as, if you didn't want to feel guilty you wouldn't by power of the button, furthermore the power of the button would allow the person to save many many lives if he wanted to out weighing the 5 that were chosen.

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retyopy said:
So here's the deal. You now have a big red button. You press it, your every whim will be catered to for the rest of your obscenely long life, and you will stay fit and healthy throughout.

But heres the catch.

You press that button, 5 people die. This won't effect you in anyway. You will never meet those people, it won't hurt you, and you could not press that button and their lives will still mean nothing. To you.

But somewhere out there, a family will cry for them. You will be responisble for a lot sadness and pain and hurt.

Do you press the button?

Now, I would love to say that I wouldn't. I would love to say that I'm compassionate enough to care for these people I will never meet. But I'm not. My life, taken care of, instantly? Money, fame, a big house, extravagant food, but no consquences to stuffing my gob? Sign me up, daddy-o! I would feel guilty, sure, but guilt doesn't cut it. I'm just being honest.

So... Yeah.

EDIT: Wow, the people of the escapist are a lot nicer than me. Go figure. Not changing my answer, though.
Why, yes, we press that button about every four years here in the states. We press it gleefully (those 5 people are more like 500,000 and they're usually brown people). Cynicism makes us odd.
 

ultimateownage

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Yeah, I would. More than 5 people die every second, and I'm sure much more than that are being born. Those 5 people are 1,394,000,000ths of the world population.
Sure it's selfish, because the gain isn't really worth 5 people's lives, but the consequence of the death of them is so detached from me that there is essentially no change.
 

genericusername64

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weker said:
Also Greed is about possession, wealth and power, wanting to live is self preservation not greed.
You said that you would kill five people to have a paradise, that is greed. The first post did not say that if you didn't press the button you would die.
 

lRookiel

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Id Consider it because if it gives me infinite money and the best healt in the world. then i would press it to fund the repair of the world such as economy and world hunger throughout my long life.
 

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OriginalLadders said:
Balancing greed, the overpopulation of the planet and my opinion on the intelligence of the average person.

Oh hell yeah. I'd press the button at least five times, just to make sure.
This brings me to an interesting aspect of this problem that may have gone underappreciated by people here, which is the correlation between the deliberation that goes into pressing the button and the consequences of satisfying the whims of someone making that deliberation.

The exact terms are that the whims of the person who presses the button would be satisfied. Killing 5 people is stated as the cost of pressing the button. What this means, then, is that the person who presses the button in this in mind will have their whim of killing 5 people for the sake of satisfying their whims satisfied.

Does this compound with 5 people independently killed by the button, or is the whim itself responsible? That is, could pressing the button have the effect of killing nobody by someone who reasonably deduces that the button itself will only satisfy the whim, and that by lacking the whim one would not pay the price? Or could it have the much stronger effect of killing many more people (potentially millions), in accordance with the mindset present at the point of pressing the button?
 

souper soup guy

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No, I wouldn't press it, even if people wouldn't die. I don't want to just coast through life, I want to actually have conflict in life, who knows I might do something great if I'm challenged.
 

weker

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genericusername64 said:
weker said:
Also Greed is about possession, wealth and power, wanting to live is self preservation not greed.
You said that you would kill five people to have a paradise, that is greed. The first post did not say that if you didn't press the button you would die.
I was talking about respective for life not the button, also you jump to conclusions that my life goals are selfish, however my goals in life are to bring joy to many by being a games designer, furthermore the money and such I gain can be used to save more life then were used for the buttons powers.
 

Davih

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Id press it. Someone will else will press the button if you don't, so you might as well press it and then make good things happen, rather than someone evil pressing it.
 

DanielDeFig

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If I was convinced that those things would happen? I'd be more than tempted to abandon my most basic of moral principles. But ultimately, I wouldn't do it. Luckily I value self-respect more than having my every wish granted.
 

CrimsonBlaze

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This question is painstakingly simple; I choose not to press the button.

Why? Because all my life I have worked for everything that I have. I don't want to be catered or have my every desired fulfilled (that's my siblings for you).

If I want something, I will be patient and get it when the timing is right and I am satisfied with it.

Aside from that, I don't believe that one man's grief can bring about another man's happiness. Also, I wouldn't want to be killed off by a button (not a very noble death, to say the least).
 

Magicmad5511

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I might.
One the one hand it would solve all my problems and even though there are morale implication, I wouldn't be massively be bothered. People die every day and I could always use my new found greatness to help the people of the world. I wouldn't feel guilt for it was fr a greater good of me saving many man others.

On the other hand though, I would still feel some guilt for I had practically been evil in pressing the button. Also it might just make life too easy.
Like playing a game with all the cheats on.

Overall I think I would. I could benefit mankind and it would be pretty cool.