A question for you PC exclusive gamers.

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omega 616 said:
Would
http://www.joystiq.com/2010/06/10/eagle-eye-peripheral-adds-keyboard-support-to-ps3-fps-games/
entice you to buy a PS3?

Edit. Just thought I would list a few exclusives just as a small reminder, God of war 3, MGS4, Modnation racers and heavy rain.
Hey, it's that list of exclusive titles that I have no interest in, tempting.

The 360 and the PS3 are PCs with custom gaming hardware and OS'. I like the fact that there's hardware lockin, even though I built a PC that was better than either years ago and won't have to upgrade for years to come. I don't like that the low cost of the hardware is subsidized by taxing the developers and games, pay it forward, kids.

If Firaxis and Blizzard go console and BioWare stops making PC games, I'll likely just stop gaming all together.
 

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omega 616 said:
Baneat said:
My guess is that the mouse input on that device will be wildly inaccurate, much like the similar device for the 360. If they can make it as good as my normal mouse, then it has a shot, though that would be tantamount to cheating in online FPS. my guess is that it can't be as accurate. If you set the sensitivity to max on a console FPS, the fastest it can go is not even close to fast enough for a mouse, which uses a very different method of aiming (flicking instead of sweeping)
Have you maxed the settings on MW2 on the PS3 (atleast)? Everything blurs and I genuinely got dizzy or motion sickness not sure which. So to me anyway it's too fast for normal use.
Yes indeed, that was my reference point. I can turn a 180 on the PC in about a tenth of a second, it takes quite a bit longer on the PS3 version. Bearing in mind that I'm a low sense player, I'm sure others can do it much faster than me, even if it isn't as accurate.
 

omega 616

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Treblaine said:
omega 616 said:
You don't understand my posts do you? My argument was using hyperbole by comparing an awful keyboard and mouse to the best razer gear.

"your not cut out for PC gaming" sounds like you consider yourself elite in someway and you have to be good enough to grace the PC.

I kind of quoted Steven Fry, he is the person that said everybody is ignorant, I think he is smarter than you, he is smarter than most people.

I did mention other things besides graphics, go have another read and you said list all the things I don't like about PC, so I did, now your saying "pick one and stick with it", what do you want from me!

I don't even see the difference in bluray films and VHS, do you think I am going to tell the difference between PC and console graphics, excluding crysis.

That was the most expensive tv I could find in the UK, I know you can get 74 inch tvs but for uk people I think they have to be imported and I don't know the names of any American electrical retailers.

My brother created a £12,000+ one on alienware, just a small correction.

"you can buy what your wallet can afford" doesn't that imply hypothesizing? I guess I should stop using the word "you" 'cos I am not referring to you as an individual, I am referring to whoever reads it.
I stand by my statements on PC gaming, it is YOUR OWN preference not to "fiddle around" with mods, customisation and the details of PC gaming. if you don't want to put the research and effort into PC gaming then you are excluding yourself!

I know what keyboard and mouse you are comparing - I just have no idea what relevance it is? I've explained why the comparison is pointless but AGAIN AND AGAIN you simply IGNORE all that I have to say, that that increase in precision is ONLY helpful if the person controlling it is capable of exploiting that precision.if you don't understand, fine, just don't be obtuse about it.

"go have another read and you said list all the things I don't like about PC, so I did, now your saying "pick one and stick with it", what do you want from me!"

I have gone through this whole thread with the "search word" function and the only time I used the word "pick" was in reference to your use of the logical fallacy of straw man arguments. So I have NO IDEA what you are talking about... again.

To clarify what I want is I want you to show some enthusiasm for the things that PC gaming can offer and just apply yourself more, invest some more intellect, into making it work rather than just complaining and making excuses. You may have jumped into the deep end with games that are too complex, I'd suggest you start simple with the eternal classic Doom to get used to controls and keyboard layout then work on up to Quake and so on.

Finally on the money issue, see what RhomCo has to say:

RhomCo said:
For US$5000 I could build 2 overpowered high end gaming rigs or one stupidly overpowered system with a N2 cooling system and pro level everything. Hell, I could build a modest little render farm for that money (which would be my preference).
N2 is Liquid Nitrogen Cooling(!) so stop talking bollocks, Omega.

And I have already shown you can build a Crysis-capable PC for only $500 (about £425 by my estimate with UK prices). And also shown you a mouse that is 90% as good as your ridiculous Razor mouse. Only a poor workman blames his tools, if you can't kick ass online with a Logitech MX 518 you simply need more practice, not more expensive gear.
You asked why I don't game on the PC I told you so drop it. You can claim I have no counter argument if you like, in fact I just can't be bothered to argue about something thats never going to change.

You like PC gaming, well done you. I like console gaming, well done me.
 

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Treblaine said:
Finally on the money issue, see what RhomCo has to say:

RhomCo said:
For US$5000 I could build 2 overpowered high end gaming rigs or one stupidly overpowered system with a N2 cooling system and pro level everything. Hell, I could build a modest little render farm for that money (which would be my preference).
N2 is Liquid Nitrogen Cooling(!)

Well, I could build a single system for 12,000quid... But it wouldn't be a gaming system. I'd have so much over-the-top hardware crammed into it that it would be part high-end graphics and audio workstation part rack-mounted server. Sure, you could use it just to play games but that'd be like a little old lady owning an Apache gunship just for going to church on sundays.


N2 cooling is sort of the Mount Everest for hardware whores and a sign that you have just too much damned money (they ARE awesome but they're complete overkill for a home PC). Once you've added an N2 system there isn't much more you can do except for standard CPU/GPU/RAM/MOBO cycle upgrades or buy a new N2 system every once and a while. Apart from that, it's just case modding and adding random tools (although those case mounted 7" lcd monitoring screens are pretty ace).

I admit, being on a pension has prevented me from building some technophiliac monstrosity.

Also, electroluminescent cabling is dead sexy.
 

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JourneyThroughHell said:
I don't think that the selling point for PC gamers is a keyboard but rather the ability to modify their games heavily and enjoy a wide spectrum of non-mainstream titles.
So, while not being one of them, I would say not really.
agreed
 

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CheeseSandwichCake said:
omega 616 said:
CheeseSandwichCake said:
RhomCo said:
omega 616 said:
You like PC gaming, well done you. I like console gaming, well done me.
And we all like pie.

/thread
Fuckoff grasshopper, cake is where it's at!
A pie was never a lie though ....
I would totally risk my life by jumping through a bunch of portals for a slice of cake.
Even when the probablity waveform of 'cake' collasped via observation to determine that 'cake' had no physical presence?
 

CheeseSandwichCake

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RhomCo said:
CheeseSandwichCake said:
omega 616 said:
CheeseSandwichCake said:
RhomCo said:
omega 616 said:
You like PC gaming, well done you. I like console gaming, well done me.
And we all like pie.

/thread
Fuckoff grasshopper, cake is where it's at!
A pie was never a lie though ....
I would totally risk my life by jumping through a bunch of portals for a slice of cake.
Even when the probably waveform of 'cake' collasped via observation to determine that 'cake' had no physical presence?
Well, at least there was a cool boss battle.
 

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CheeseSandwichCake said:
RhomCo said:
CheeseSandwichCake said:
omega 616 said:
CheeseSandwichCake said:
RhomCo said:
omega 616 said:
You like PC gaming, well done you. I like console gaming, well done me.
And we all like pie.

/thread
Fuckoff grasshopper, cake is where it's at!
A pie was never a lie though ....
I would totally risk my life by jumping through a bunch of portals for a slice of cake.
Even when the probably waveform of 'cake' collasped via observation to determine that 'cake' had no physical presence?
Well, at least there was a cool boss battle.
Satisfactory resolution achieved through violent conduct noted.
 

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No. I'd play a console because it's different, and simply trying to force it to use a controller setup it wasn't designed for won't make it better. The only real advantage would be having the keyboard to type.