tobyornottoby said:
axlryder said:
While I want to stress that I don't condone staring at a woman's chest for several reasons, my point is that to expect someone to notice specifically how you want them to when putting your sexual organs on display is laughable. If you are wearing a shirt that exposes your breasts, just accept that some men are going to stare.
Also, using your analogy as a basis, theft would actually be equivalent to sexual assault. Staring would be called window shopping.
"Notice specifically how you want them to"? It's not a seperate manual for every women out there. It's called common sense. There are a lot of unspoken regulations in daily life. Life is vague and grey. Your previous post shows your desire for clearness consiceness but that's not how the world works.
Window shopping does not make the shopkeeper uncomfortable, I think.
You're right, life is vague and grey, and a woman who has chosen to wear a shirt that reveals a significant portion of her breasts is going to be interpreted by some as "this woman has chosen to objectify herself and since I have the right to look wherever I want I am going to look at them". However, there is no unspoken rule that says "one must never stare at a woman's breasts when they are on display". After all, why should a woman be allowed to tempt men with their sexual organs and then place specific "unspoken rules" on the length and degree to which they are allowed to look at said sexual organs else they risk chastising, despite the woman obviously doing it to garner attention in the first place. That's so unnecessarily complicated and unfair that I see no reason to abide by such a rule. If I'm wearing a speedo I'm not going to yell at someone for staring at my butt if it makes me uncomfortable, I'll probably just not wear a speedo. In fact I know a lot of guys who will take full advantage and see nothing wrong in doing so, especially if it's someone they don't know or will never talk to again. I don't agree with them but I can't say I blame them. In my mind, if a woman is so desperate for attention that she must expose her body in order to boost her self-esteem, I have very little respect for her in the first place. It's really, really simple, if you don't want a guy staring at your breasts, cover them up. There's no need for foggy greys here. If he's still staring, then I think you'd have a good reason to speak up.
Also, What do you mean that's not how the world works? What does "clearness consiceness" even mean? I don't even know if you're trying to say "Conscience" or "consciousness". I'm not insulting you, really, I just think you should consider improving your spelling/grammar. I had some trouble with your shop keeper analogy earlier too.
Regardless, if one is loitering about than perhaps it would annoy the shopkeeper. To bring theft into it, which is a criminal offense, is merely trying to artificially escalate the severity of the offense for the purpose of your argument.
