Actually, there are LOTS of generations of hardware but because of the open architecture of PCs it pays for manufacturers to have these generations play as nice together as they can manage.Choppaduel said:
A rant on PC fanboyism
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The other thing is that they seem to perceive game PC's in the same respect as a console, that it's a gaming devoted box, which is untrue. We all need a PC, so why not spend the cost of an Xbox/PS3 to make your PC play games just as well, if not better? A lot of pre built PC's easily have the RAM and CPU's for high end gaming, but no GPU, yet they cost so fucking much. Most sensible people, in terms of computers/technology, would notice that.DaHero said:
My family often has spare monitors... usually old CRTs but if you're that desperate for a monitor you don't turn one down.Racecarlock said:
I rescinded that touch pad argument. I also rescinded that constant hardware update argument. I'm trying to get better at this.Hammeroj said:
Actually, I would like to thank the "PC Gaming Master Race" for uniting all the Xbox and Playstation and Nintendo fanboys together. Before it was a massive "360 vs. PS3 vs. Wii vs. PC" battle royal, now thanks to the recent outbursts from "PC Elitists" over the news about Skyrim and the Zero Punctuation review of The Witcher 2, all the fanboys of every console are dropping their hate for one another and coming together to hate on one group instead of 3! It was like fighting a civil war while being invaded by a foreign country.
On a serious note, I hate fanboys in general for being so irrational that you would have an easier time arguing with a mentally retarded, 4 year old Donkey, but the PC fanboys are the most recent to start a drunken, half-assed bar fight with a group of people who were already building up rage from their own drunken, half-assed argument resulting in the ugliest and most pathetic drunken, half-assed slap fight.
On a serious note, I hate fanboys in general for being so irrational that you would have an easier time arguing with a mentally retarded, 4 year old Donkey, but the PC fanboys are the most recent to start a drunken, half-assed bar fight with a group of people who were already building up rage from their own drunken, half-assed argument resulting in the ugliest and most pathetic drunken, half-assed slap fight.
Hi, I'm a PC gamer and I don't hate console gamers. That doesn't mean I don't hate how our platform gets shafted so often.
I need a fairly grunty PC for my artwork, so PC gaming costs me nothing except for the cost of the games. If I wanted to get into console gaming (bleurgh) I'd have to find the money for the console and then an extra AU$20-30 per game. So very not worth it for me.WaaghPowa said:
Me: I Play PC and PS3
Master Race and Console Peasants
simultaneously)*GASP* Kill the filthy Hybrid!!
An exaggerated response i sometimes get,but i think that each system has it Highs and Lows
and that us Gamers should stop infighting and rise up against our enemy's: BITCHY HOUSEWIVES WHO WANT TO BAN VIDEO GAMES AND FOX NEWS
Master Race and Console Peasants
simultaneously)*GASP* Kill the filthy Hybrid!!An exaggerated response i sometimes get,but i think that each system has it Highs and Lows
and that us Gamers should stop infighting and rise up against our enemy's: BITCHY HOUSEWIVES WHO WANT TO BAN VIDEO GAMES AND FOX NEWS
superdelux said:Me: I Play PC and PS3
Master Race and Console Peasants
An exaggerated response i sometimes get,but i think that each system has it Highs and Lows
and that us Gamers should stop infighting and rise up against our enemy's: BITCHY HOUSEWIVES WHO WANT TO BAN VIDEO GAMES AND FOX NEWS
Why do they want to ban video games and fox news?
I personally do honestly view the PC as a superior gaming platform to the console. You can get better graphics, more power, more controls, don't have to pay to play online (outside of your internet provider obviously), the availability and ease of installing mods and the fact you can use it for heaps of other programs and uses. Consoles just can't match this except that they get lots of console exclusive titles, which really irks me.
That said, I don't view myself as inherently superior or any such nonsense for preferring to play on the pc. (Though some of the COD and HALO fanboys can be so goddam annoying- much like any fanboy's though I suppose).
Ultimately fanboys will be fanboy's; the internet provides the opportunity for endless amounts of anonymous douchbaggery.
That said, I don't view myself as inherently superior or any such nonsense for preferring to play on the pc. (Though some of the COD and HALO fanboys can be so goddam annoying- much like any fanboy's though I suppose).
Ultimately fanboys will be fanboy's; the internet provides the opportunity for endless amounts of anonymous douchbaggery.
I would point out the old cry of the console gamer, which is valid point, cost. I use to be both a console gamer and a PC gamer, mainly console when I was a kid, mainly PC in my early teens, and now I am 90% console, only playing flash games and MMO's on my PC(because they are the only thing it can run).zehydra said:
Back in the 90's I never seemed to have to worry about PC specs, my hand me down PC ran pretty much everything, then in the 2000's there was the whole graphics boom where everything had to be the latest and greatest graphics and each year had to push the limit on graphics to the point where graphical hardware was obsolete every year to year and half. I was getting sick of how I would take a game home find out my PC couldn't run it(even though it had the minimum specs on the box), then when I upgraded my graphics card and other components I was relieved that I could finally play games and then over the next year to year and a half I would get like four games, then when I go out to buy the latest game I want, I find out that my hardware is outdated again. Over 5 years I had to replace my hardware at least 3 times.
If PC gamers want to lure console gamers to the PC, they have to stop demanding the best in graphics and performance settings for games.
For example, 2 years ago I bought a 360 Elite bundle that came with controller, headset, and 2 games(Halo 3 and Fable 2), for 400 bucks. During the same summer, my dad bought me a new PC(no monitor) which cost a little over 400 bucks.
Over that two years my 360 has played every game perfectly even the latest games of course, I don't look at graphics first but, they are perfect for my tastes.
The PC was the bottom of the bare minimum, since my dad was paying, he wasn't going to be paying extra to make it a gaming PC, he wanted me to have something practical that wouldn't distract me in college. Well, that thing can't even handle games that were new in 2007. I found my new love in MMO's because the developers know that to make more money they have to dial down all the fancy graphics so that pretty much any PC can run their games.
Again, if PC gamers want their platform to see new life, more games developed for it, then they need to get developers to adopt the tactics of MMO developers, make games that will run on just about any PC.
Looking at the 360, I can see that I am going to get at least another gaming year, possibly two, out of it before the next generation.
If PC gaming developed at a console's cycle, making it so that the user, if the user only has the money to buy the cheap level of new hardware, only has to replace their hardware ever four to five years, the PC gaming would see new life and many more users.
With the way things are going, consoles are dominating because it is a cheaper path because the gamer doesn't have to buy a new console every year to year and a half to play the latest games. On top of that the consoles are starting to do things that a PC can do, like surf the internet and stream movies and other videos(Hulu and Netflix), music and games.
The consoles are doing those things with no hardware changes, I just get a free firmware update that allows me to do it.
So PC gamers, that is what you have to get done for your gaming platform to be revitalized, find a way to be cheap and cheap that lasts many years before needing upgrades.
I got about half way through, skimmed the last and to some it up.
I know several xbox360 games in real life. They treat me just as badly as PC users ever do. Only reason you see all the complaints of PC ranters here because the PC is where the forums are....
Last year and before, I never heard the end of 'get halo this so you can play with us' no matter how much I say I prefer the PC and as soon as I said 'well my xbox 360 has broken twice now, I can't be bothered to go out and buy a new one' they start lecturing me about PCs being even less reliable. I hadn't even MENTIONED my computer.
Truth be told - there are just some idiots out there on both sides of the console/PC flame wars. The only smart replies you'll get to this thread are the non-idiots, this is gonna go on for everything about anything to do with computers, XboxvsPS3 that, PC vs console vs PC that etc etc.
I don't care what people have said to you on it - most of us have the same problem with utter idiots. Please don't rant about it - it's been done many times before and we've heard it all before I'm sure. Just grind your teeth like the rest of us and get used to it.
I know several xbox360 games in real life. They treat me just as badly as PC users ever do. Only reason you see all the complaints of PC ranters here because the PC is where the forums are....
Last year and before, I never heard the end of 'get halo this so you can play with us' no matter how much I say I prefer the PC and as soon as I said 'well my xbox 360 has broken twice now, I can't be bothered to go out and buy a new one' they start lecturing me about PCs being even less reliable. I hadn't even MENTIONED my computer.
Truth be told - there are just some idiots out there on both sides of the console/PC flame wars. The only smart replies you'll get to this thread are the non-idiots, this is gonna go on for everything about anything to do with computers, XboxvsPS3 that, PC vs console vs PC that etc etc.
I don't care what people have said to you on it - most of us have the same problem with utter idiots. Please don't rant about it - it's been done many times before and we've heard it all before I'm sure. Just grind your teeth like the rest of us and get used to it.
To me, it feels that that group of particularly stuck up, loud PC gamers feel like PC gaming is dying and are just trying to retaliate. Even Bethesda is developing Skyrim on consoles and porting it to PC. It seems like they're just trying to hold on to their PCs even if it means missing out on so many great games.
I don't consider myself superior.
My opinion on what platform is better however, I consider mine the best indeed.
If I didn't think my opinion was the right one I wouldn't have it now would I?
All I really want is some games with some nice big detailed levels and decent AI, too much to ask?
Apparently it is when that requires more then the pittance of RAM consoles have.
My opinion on what platform is better however, I consider mine the best indeed.
If I didn't think my opinion was the right one I wouldn't have it now would I?
All I really want is some games with some nice big detailed levels and decent AI, too much to ask?
Apparently it is when that requires more then the pittance of RAM consoles have.
I would like to add that if it weren't for consoles only MMO's like WoW would be made because those are bigger moneymakers. On the other hand they do make games more and more 'accessible' to me easy isn't fun, a challenge is fun, something being though makes it more rewarding to complete, atleast for me that is. I'm a PC only gamer by the way, I just can't get around those clumsy controllers. Graphics I don't really care I mean Oblivion is still a very good game even while it looks outdated. As was covered in Extra Credits it's about aesthetics not graphics. I do enjoy good graphics, but I won't complain when they aren't. The only real disadvantage for me is the these days less and less games have mod tools. That does bother me, because really mod tools make a game live forever look at half-life, look at Fallout and look at The Elder Scrolls.
A clear example that sentence structure can be a *****.RhombusHatesYou said:superdelux said:Me: I Play PC and PS3
Master Race and Console Peasants
An exaggerated response i sometimes get,but i think that each system has it Highs and Lows
and that us Gamers should stop infighting and rise up against our enemy's: BITCHY HOUSEWIVES WHO WANT TO BAN VIDEO GAMES AND FOX NEWS
Why do they want to ban video games and fox news?
As I posted in a monster post not far above from this, the whole constant push for better graphics and more power is what is killing the PC gaming industry. With how long console generations have been going between generations, I can buy a console and it lasts me for 4 years or more without having to upgrade to the next generation. If I buy a PC at the bare minimum price of consoles, it won't even play games from four years ago. If I buy a PC with some of the latest gaming hardware(usually double the cost of consoles at the start of a new console generation), I will be able to use it for gaming for maybe at most a year and a half before I have to upgrade.Rems said:
Slow the graphics and power advancement, make things cheaper and last longer, then the PC will be revitalized and gain more of a following in gaming.