A rational discussion about the advantages and disadvantages of the ps3 and xbox 360

[Drong]

Yes the PC will win even though the consoles have already begun to rival pc's in terms of graphical capability. If you actually understood anything you would know that were any console to have the specs of even a midrange pc they would completely destroy them since their OS requirements are far less than those of PC's. Part of the reason people even need computers as powerful as they are for games is because the damn operating system requirements have to be taken into account (Especially if we are talking about Vista.) You can't even apply moore's law in this way because its already proven to NOT apply since the games are as close as they are right now. If it did apply it wouldn't even be possible to say this for anyone.

It doesn't really matter if the hardware potential itself increases as such since it takes *gasp* time for that power to even be realized. It also doesn't really make sense to ramp up the graphics (Which lets face it is the only thing that ever really gets upped with pc games.) to the point where almost no one can play a game on the highest settings. Of course you would already understand this if you actually had any clue what Moore's law actually is and how the same rules do not apply to software nor do they work perfectly when you think of market penetration.

ok you totally missed the point I was trying to make and just went off on one, but that's ok you seem a little high strung and are reading more into what I?ve written than I actually said, but I?m a forgiving kind of guy so I?ll let it past and make it a little more clear for you.

The point I was trying to make is as the pc power increases the price of what would now be top of the range gear continually drops so what is a £3000 powerhouse now you'll be able to pick up from Dell for a few hundred quid in a few years time (ok a exaggeration but not by much... and no I?d never by Dell, like most PC gamers I build my own rigs)

The fact I was trying to make is that the consoles have not won the war and will not win it, PC's will continue to be there as they have the whole time, there will be a short patch, maybe a year or two before the next generation of consoles come out that the PC will be king again and doing things far in excess of what this generation of consoles can do, then the next generation of consoles will come out all nice and shiny and the PC will be playing catch up for a while.

And yes I know that the hardware potential in consoles is more realised and because it's a more standard configuration it's easier to programme games to make better use out of it whereas with a pc you have to make it available to work on many different configuration and (thanks in large part to shoddy programming by Microsoft) Windows is a massive drain on system resources, so that you are forced to have a PC with far more power than you would actually need in a console, but even accounting for that the PC's are already ahead in what they can do (granted not by much at the moment)but they are going to get far, far, FAR more powerful.

anyway as I said in my first post I own a PS3 and a Wii and love them both for different reasons, My bro owns a 360 and I?ve had alot of fun playing on it too, before that I?ve had a ps2, a cube, a ps1, a amiga, a megadrive, a atari 7800, i'm not some PC fanboy i just had to respond to accusations that "PC's are dead and consoles have won the war"

 

[Drong]

and as for a PS3 game that looks real pretty in motion (as in better than gears of war) Uncharted, that game looks beautiful (ok it has some other issues but you asked about looks

 

[Magnus Of Weelilplace]

One system to rule them all!!!

I've seen it in my dreams!!!

Not Wii, Not PS3, Not XBox 360, but....

Strap yourselves in for this one kids....

A single system made by all three companies, with support for all types of gamers, first AND third party support, intuitive controls without over complicated buttons, but with enough to allow for growth and customization for each and every one of the THOUSANDS of games out for the system!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

*catch breath*

Think about it...the competition doesn't need to be between the makers of the hardware, it needs to be all about the games being played on it!!!!

I don't know about the rest of you, but I don't buy a system because I like the way it looks, or because of it's name. I buy it because of the games that will be on it. If there were only one system I/we could focus on getting the best games, and "they"(game makers) could focus on simply making the best possible game that is humanly possible!


I'm very passionate about this idea. It would help gaming beyond what you can imagine.

 

[Novan Leon]

X360 is the best buy for your buck right now.
PS3 seems to have the most potential for future value.

 

[tendo82]

I'm using my Xbox360 the most, but I think as time continues we will start to see performance differences between cross platform PS3 games and Xbox360 games. I don't know enough to get into a technical argument, but the limitations of DVD storage space also seem like they will eventually become problematic.

It will also be interesting to see what happens if and when Japanese game production for the PS3 ramps up. Most of the titles that are really driving both systems in the US are coming from Western developers thus far. On a side note, I'm thoroughly unimpressed with the games coming out of Japan as of late.

 

[Kitari]

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He said rational! In this topic! Lol!

 

[Conqueror Kenny]

The Xbox 360 struck me as better value for money. So far, I have not been disappointed. There is only one game on the Playstation 3 that I would like, and that is Uncharted: Drake's Fortune. Moreover, most cross platform releases, such as The Orange Box haved turned out considerably better on the Xbox 360. As things currently stand, the Playstation 3 is not worth its pricetag, especially for those of us on a tight gaming budget.

i agree with you because for me it all comes down to cost

 

[Manny151]

Here's my reply to this thread http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/9.52592?page=4#401933 read this and then talk to me about PS3 versions of multiplatform games. Get with the program and realize that the PS3 is the better console of the 3. The 360 is already showing it;'s limitations. The lack of a high capacity disc format and the lack of a hard drive in every console will hinder it's progress, and it will only become more and more apparent. Look at Metal Gear Solid 4 it's 25GB's. For those of you still waiting for this game to hit the 360 i wouldn't hold my breath. If it ever did make it it would be seriously downgraded. They were barely able to fit everything on a Blu-Ray and in the end they had to compress some stuff just so that it would fit. They even went as far as to say that it could've looked even better but they just didn't have the space. And for those of you who think I'm just pulling this out of my ass here's the link http://kotaku.com/362807/kojima-says-blu+ray-disc-doesnt-have-enough-space By the way I own a 360 and about 8 games. I love playing on my 360 but I'm also a realist and I'm not a fanboy that let's preference cloud his judgment. PS3 simply offers a lot more and will outlast the 360.

 

[EittilDratsab]

The PS3 actually offers less at the moment. Yeah, theres MGS4 and Final Fantasy (meh), but those are future releases, along with Spore, Little Big Planet, and Resistance 2. Buying a Xbox360 gives one access to a multitude of games, and I don't care if one was released earlier. What matters is that one console justifies its purchase on Day 1, where as the other still has a ways to go.

BTW, read the title page. Talk about the PS3's advantages and DISADVANTAGES. Don't go gushy with the Blu-ray or something.

 

[ultra_v_89]

I really hate this whole console war thing, I mean, you can't choose one over the other without feeling like you are missing out on something. I'm a 360 owner, my reasons for which were the excellant games, cheaper price and 2 cousins that also had them and whom I could borrow games off. Now that the ps3 is starting to churn out some decent games, I am a little broken hearted that I miss out on MGS4, Haze and other PS based games. I have a ps2, so these were the titles/ developers I was playing. I think the the HD movies are better than blue rays, pity they are dying off.

 

[shadow skill]

I really hate this whole console war thing, I mean, you can't choose one over the other without feeling like you are missing out on something. I'm a 360 owner, my reasons for which were the excellant games, cheaper price and 2 cousins that also had them and whom I could borrow games off. Now that the ps3 is starting to churn out some decent games, I am a little broken hearted that I miss out on MGS4, Haze and other PS based games. I have a ps2, so these were the titles/ developers I was playing. I think the the HD movies are better than blue rays, pity they are dying off.

Just save your money and get a ps3. That's what I did since I knew there were going to be games I would like to play on both systems. Though I do not think I will do it again if Microsoft releases another console seeing as how excessively failure prone the 360 is.

 

[zen5887]

I got a 360 for a few reasons.
1. It was cheaper..A big thing for a 17 year old who doesnt get payed that much..
2. It has more games..I didnt wanna spend all that money on a PS3 and go "hmm..now what.."
3. I knew a bunch of people with 360s..Most of them have live so I got people to play with and I can allways share games with Rain.

PS3 is an awesome machine.. I know a dude who has it and I love the interface and HOME looks really really cool but I just cant afford one. Maybe when im a rockstar I'll get one and play MGS4 =D

 

[Sniper_Zegai]

I don't own a PS3.

I have a Wii and a 360, I prefer the 360.

I think thats about as far as I'm gonna go with the console debate. Mainly because whether you like the PS3 or 360 it is a matter of personal preference and not which one is "better".

 

[moderndayvampire]

The 360 launched Nov 22, 2005 and the PS3 launched Nov 17, 2006 in North America. So that's a hair shy of a ONE year lead, not almost 3 like a previous poster said. That said... a one year head start is still a big deal. So, here's my breakdown:

PS3 - The PS3 is more powerful, period, we're not going to have that argument. It's doing well this holiday season and that pretty much means it's here to stay. Blu-ray is a wonderful format, as is HD-DVD, but with the drive in the system it has real and tangible backing unlike HD-DVD. The ability to have all regions on a single disc and the ability to support massive data storage on a single disc are definitely going to help in the long run. All models of the PS3 have a hard drive which means developers can, are and will continue to use it to cache data. This means faster loading games that eventually will run smoother too. The PlayStation Network is in its infancy and is progressing well. Sony is an axcellent student and is learning a lot from X-Box Live. Yes, the PSN has a ways to go, but it is evolving constantly.

XBox 360 - The 360 is a far superior system to the original Xbox in almost every way. XBox Live is better than ever, as was mentioned, the online experience on the 360 just isn't matched. The 360 has a year head start and has taken full advantage of this. Being the first Next Gen system it has sold well and built an impressive library that continues to drive sales. The system's pricing is better as well. The real issue is that the 360 launched a year earlier than the PS3 and isn't as powerful. Without a built in high capacity disc drive multiple discs and multiple regioned versions are going to become an issue over the remaining life of the system. Also, Microsoft simply dropped the ball by not including a hard drive in/with every system. The Core and Arcade bundles are great for comsumers looking to get into the Next Gen more cost effectively, but are going to seriously hurt them in the future because developers won't use it to cache data since they can't count on everyone that would buy the game owning a 360 with a hard drive.

Conclusion - The 360 will continue to do well for another 2-3 years and most likely maintain the lead it has over the PS3 though that lead may shrink in the coming years as the PS3 becoms more affordable and games being to equal or surpass the 360 visually. Sometime around 2010 or 2011 the 360 will start showing it's age. Developers will have all of their tools running much better for the PS3 and as many developers have stated they will start with PS3 development since it is harder and then port down to the 360. At that point Microsoft will have to launch a new console. This is where the issue really, truly lies. Microsoft will launch a new console as the PS3 is still gaining steam. They will hit a brick wall of consumers not willing to purchase another new console considering they already have atleast one and that many of them may already have Wii's or even Wii 2's and the new affordable PS3.

That's how I feel anyway. I own both. The 360 for gaming goodness now, the PS3 for the future.

i have to agree with that, also found some videos on youtube that more/less say that if anyone is interested here they are:
(4 parts)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fyg0EeAy9PM&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vLBNZrz-lRU&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FSvlGoSdWys
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fB5-mrhdGiE&feature=related

 

[Natural Hazard]

just get both..
story ended

 

[Bodb]

Sony is less wont to moneyhat everything coming out on the 360, so that's a major disadvantage.

 

[stompy]

Can we kill this thread please. With the increase in troll activity, is it really wise to bring about a topic that attracts flamewars like flies to fresh manure?

Edit: Shit, the irony...

 

[CyberAkuma]

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