A rumour concerning Beyond Good & Evil 2 and... Nintendo.

[Zhukov]

http://www.videogamer.com/news/nintendo_steps_in_to_fund_beyond_good_and_evil_2_as_nx_exclusive_report_claims.html

So there's a possibility that Beyond Good & Evil 2 will finally leave the realm of vaporware and actually be made. As an exclusive. For the fucking Nintendo NX... thing.

(Thus ends the informative part of this post.)

*ahem*

Just fuck off Nintendo. Fuck. Right. Off.

I, uh... I think this might just be about as annoyed as it is possible for me to get over video game news. Well, it's not so much news at this point as a tentative rumour based on a vague leak. But if it's true... Christ all-fucking-mighty.

Yes, I remember Bayonetta 2. I know how the counter argument goes. "It wouldn't even exist without Nintendo. Would you prefer it come out as an exclusive or not at all?" Honestly, I'd prefer it not come out at all. I'd rather something I want not exist then exist but be unobtainable because in order to play it I'd have to spend hundreds of dollars on a useless piece of junk that will be good for nothing else besides Mario Kart 17.

I can't remember if I commented on the Bayonetta 2 thing, but if I did then I take it all back. Fuck exclusivity and fuck Nintendo. I've always been content to ignore them, but now, well... now I shall be thinking very unkind things about them indeed. Just you see if I don't!

Seriously though, this makes me wish I owned something made by Nintendo. Like a bunch of those really hard to get crappy plastic toys that everyone goes nuts for. Just so I could pile them up, take a shit on them and set the whole mess on fire.

 

[totheendofsin]

I guess I hold the opposite opinion, while exclusivity obvioualy isn't ideal I'd rather the game exist on a platform I don't own than not exist at all.

 

[B-Cell_v1legacy]

Nintendo is a company who is known for rehashing 80s sequel over and over again with same story about a villain kidnap princess and hero save the day.

 

[Casual Shinji]

Wow, never seen you this pissed... and you're always a tad grumpy. XD

Just as with Bayonetta 2, I didn't care much for the original, and I don't care much for the sequel. Call me when they get exclussive rights to Oddworld.

 

[DrownedAmmet]

Yeah dude, I don't get the anger, wouldn't you rather the game come out on a console you wouldn't buy then not come out at all? Then at least there's a chance you can play it if you happen to find a golden ticket in a Wonka bar and win an NX

Then again maybe it's because I have no attachment to Beyond Good & Evil, I played it recently and found it lack luster

I will probably pick up a Wii U solely for the new Zelda game, and I'm a little bummed about that but such is the nature of the beast

 

[Zhukov]

So you rather screw over all of the other fans of the series because Nintendo revived a, quite frankly, fucking dead as nails franchise as a console exclusive for a platform you don't want to buy?

Huh?

a) The decision isn't in my hands. I don't have the capacity to screw over anyone.

b) If the NX sells like the WiiU and BG&E2 sells like Bayonetta 2, that would come to a grand total of maybe... 17 people?

That sounds incredibly selfish to me.

Yes. It is.

Its not like the first game was even THAT fucking good anyway.

Fortunately I'm not here to convince you otherwise.

Personally I was thoroughly charmed by it in spite of its clunky nature.

 

[NPC009]

Funding exclusives to build up a library for a system is what pretty much every gaming system company does. Heck, buying entire studios to make those exclusives is pretty common as well. They need those exclusives to make their system competitive and frankly, having various consoles compete for our affection is not a bad thing. It forces companies to innovate and keep prices as low as possible.

Say what you will about Nintendo, but atleast they've got good taste when it comes to exclusives. Bayonetta 2? Nice. Excellent action game. Buying Monolith Soft and let them go nuts building massive worlds? Awesome. The only thing they should regret is not buying Rare when they had the chance. I mean, sure, Microsoft eventually bought its decomposing corpse and is still publishing the stinky gasses it expels, but it's just not the same.

BTW if you're only playing Mario Kart on your Nintendo systems, you may be doing something wrong.

 

[DoPo]

Funding exclusives to build up a library for a system is what pretty much every gaming system company does. Heck, buying entire studios to make those exclusives is pretty common as well. They need those exclusives to make their system competitive and frankly, having various consoles compete for our affection is not a bad thing. It forces companies to innovate and keep prices as low as possible.

Yes, right, so instead of paying once for one gaming machine, you need to pay for each of them. If you want the games, that is, so it's not really that much cheaper. If you don't want to buy extra consoles, then you don't have access to the games and likely never will. If there are, like, one or two games a player is interested in on a system they I don't have, then there is little incentive to shell out a lot of cash for these.

So you either pay triple digits for a couple of games (not cheap) or don't even have access to the games (not good for the consumers). Yes, I'd say there is something bad about exclusives.

Moreover, there is little to actually drive innovation with exclusives. The games market allows for that already - would you buy rehashed shooter #31514 or would you go for something that sounds more interesting? If innovation is sought after, then the latter would definitely prevail regardless of the system availability.

 

[Erttheking]

Nintendo is a company who is known for rehashing 80s sequel over and over again with same story about a villain kidnap princess and hero save the day.

Uh. Thank you for sharing? I don't see how this relates. At all.

OT: Mixed feelings from me. Though I guess I fall into the "I'd rather it be an exclusive than non-existant." Then again I never played the original.

 

[Zhukov]

Funding exclusives to build up a library for a system is what pretty much every gaming system company does.

Oh, I understand why they do it.

Doesn't mean I have to like it.

As a consumer I'd prefer that games come out on every platform capable of running them.

BTW if you're only playing Mario Kart on your Nintendo systems, you may be doing something wrong.

Never saw anything else on their platforms worth so much as a sniff.

Which suited me just fine. A Nintendo product I can happily ignore is the best kind of Nintendo product.

 

[Kingjackl]

Eh, we all hate exclusivity but that's how it goes. The thing is, most people buy a console because it has that one game they want, but it's not like you won't buy other games for it. I bought a PS4 for Bloodborne, and now I have several third party games, and I get to play stuff like Persona 5 and Horizon when they come out. The trade-off is having to wait for Tomb Raider.

I'm not sure it's a good idea for a cult game like BGE2, since it already has a niche audience, but that audience will absolutely buy it because they're grateful it's even being made.

 

[Aerosteam]

Is this your first time getting affected by exclusivity deals?

 

[Sniper Team 4]

If Nintendo is the only company smart enough to realize that fans have been clamoring for this game and thus is willing to fund it, then I think that says more about the stupidity of other companies than Nintendo.

 

[Silvanus]

Oh, come on, this is hardly reasonable. They have as much right and reason to obtain exclusives as the other consoles companies do.

 

[NPC009]

Funding exclusives to build up a library for a system is what pretty much every gaming system company does. Heck, buying entire studios to make those exclusives is pretty common as well. They need those exclusives to make their system competitive and frankly, having various consoles compete for our affection is not a bad thing. It forces companies to innovate and keep prices as low as possible.

Yes, right, so instead of paying once for one gaming machine, you need to pay for each of them. If you want the games, that is, so it's not really that much cheaper. If you don't want to buy extra consoles, then you don't have access to the games and likely never will. If there are, like, one or two games a player is interested in on a system they I don't have, then there is little incentive to shell out a lot of cash for these.

So you either pay triple digits for a couple of games (not cheap) or don't even have access to the games (not good for the consumers). Yes, I'd say there is something bad about exclusives.

Moreover, there is little to actually drive innovation with exclusives. The games market allows for that already - would you buy rehashed shooter #31514 or would you go for something that sounds more interesting? If innovation is sought after, then the latter would definitely prevail regardless of the system availability.

If one company controlled the market, we'd probably paying a lot more for less. I'm pretty happy to see Sony chop another $100 of its console's price whenever Microsoft is starting to look a little too scary.

As for innovation, look in Nintendo's direction. They're taking it easy this generation with just a tablet controller thingie, but they were the ones to properly introduce gaming to motion controls (Wii), touch screens (DS) and 3D (3DS). In turn there are always some developers who manage to put those features to good use. Ever played Trace Memory/Another Code? That game is like a big tech demo for the DS, with puzzles that make use of pretty much everything the DS is capable of. One of them involves closing the DS. Took me a little while to think that far outside of the box.

Speaking as someone who actually buys several consoles and handhelds every generation: when it comes to games, the variety is there. You just have to know where to look. It's easy to dismiss an entire console based on a few mainstream titles, but there is so much more available. For instance, if you're only looking at store shelves, you're only seeing a fraction of what you can actually play on a Wii U. There are some really neat things in the eShop, and if you missed a few generations - even better! There are loads of classic games available in the eShop and the system plays Wii games.

If that is not enough, well, yeah, you're going to miss out on a few games, but why not play something else on the system you do own? It's not like the PS4 or something is hurting for games. Heck, I'm happy with my Vita. I'm so happy with it that I have a backlog for it. A backlog for a system that supposedly doesn't have any games. Hey, you know what? If anyone is that upset about not being able to play a few games because they don't want to buy the system, they are being kinda whiny. Not my problem if they can't see the games through the salt

 

[Tony2077]

i hate to say it but this is one of the games i rather not see locked to a system i am not likely to ever own