A rumour concerning Beyond Good & Evil 2 and... Nintendo.

[stormtrooper9091]

what the HELL?? One of the best games of all time and my personal favourite will be an exclusive for a console I would never ever ever in a bajillion years want to have? Fuck off Nintendo indeed

But I'm pretty sure that won't happen. In fact, the whole concept of exclusives is kind of bullshit. It negates the whole free market thing

 

[Shoggoth2588]

I would remind you Zhukov that the last time Ubisoft and Nintendo have tried to do the exclusivity thing it didn't last too long. ZombiU for example ended up on every other console but most egregiously was Rayman Legends which wound up not being exclusive to the Wii U at all. If it's true that Nintendo is partnering with Ubisoft to make Beyond Good & Evil 2, then there's a good chance that it will be a timed exclusive, if that.

Personally, I haven't played the original but if this turns into a Bayonetta style thing where Nintendo releases a double-disc or double cart on their shiny new console that would be fine by me. If not, also fine. I don't know a thing about the NX definitively but I'll end up getting it regardless because it's going to be the only way I'll be able to play the new Mario, Zelda and, Metroid.

 

[Hades]

I get why you would be unhappy with a revival of a series you like being on a console you don't own. But to prefer it rather wouldn't exist is petty and a big reason why I hold certain parts of the Bayonetta fanbase in contempt.

If Nintendo didn't get Bayonetta she would be dead and if they won't go for Beyond good and evil I can't think of anyone who will.

 

[xaszatm]

http://www.videogamer.com/news/nintendo_steps_in_to_fund_beyond_good_and_evil_2_as_nx_exclusive_report_claims.html

So there's a possibility that Beyond Good & Evil 2 will finally leave the realm of vaporware and actually be made. As an exclusive. For the fucking Nintendo NX... thing.

(Thus ends the informative part of this post.)

*ahem*

Just fuck off Nintendo. Fuck. Right. Off.

I, uh... I think this might just be about as annoyed as it is possible for me to get over video game news. Well, it's not so much news at this point as a tentative rumour based on a vague leak. But if it's true... Christ all-fucking-mighty.

Yes, I remember Bayonetta 2. I know how the counter argument goes. "It wouldn't even exist without Nintendo. Would you prefer it come out as an exclusive or not at all?" Honestly, I'd prefer it not come out at all. I'd rather something I want not exist then exist but be unobtainable because in order to play it I'd have to spend hundreds of dollars on a useless piece of junk that will be good for nothing else besides Mario Kart 17.

I can't remember if I commented on the Bayonetta 2 thing, but if I did then I take it all back. Fuck exclusivity and fuck Nintendo. I've always been content to ignore them, but now, well... now I shall be thinking very unkind things about them indeed. Just you see if I don't!

Seriously though, this makes me wish I owned something made by Nintendo. Like a bunch of those really hard to get crappy plastic toys that everyone goes nuts for. Just so I could pile them up, take a shit on them and set the whole mess on fire.

what the HELL?? One of the best games of all time and my personal favourite will be an exclusive for a console I would never ever ever in a bajillion years want to have? Fuck off Nintendo indeed

But I'm pretty sure that won't happen. In fact, the whole concept of exclusives is kind of bullshit. It negates the whole free market thing

i hate to say it but this is one of the games i rather not see locked to a system i am not likely to ever own

Uh guys? Shouldn't we wait until after this is confirmed before bashing Nintendo to oblivion? I mean, the rumor comes from the same guy who said the NX would be so easy to code that all you had to do was compile the code. If you have an iota of how coding works you'd laugh this source all the way to the bank. So...calm down.

If it is true, I'm bringing back "SALT FOR THE SALT THRONE!" because man you guys are extremely petty. Did you all do the same when Shenmue 3 was revealed last E3?

 

[Tony2077]

i hate to say it but this is one of the games i rather not see locked to a system i am not likely to ever own

Uh guys? Shouldn't we wait until after this is confirmed before bashing Nintendo to oblivion? I mean, the rumor comes from the same guy who said the NX would be so easy to code that all you had to do was compile the code. If you have an iota of how coding works you'd laugh this source all the way to the bank. So...calm down.

If it is true, I'm bringing back "SALT FOR THE SALT THRONE!" because man you guys are extremely petty. Did you all do the same when Shenmue 3 was revealed last E3?

where was i bashing nintendo

 

[Hawki]

So, let's see...have the game come out on one platform, or never have it come out at all.

Such a tough choice.

 

[WhiteTigerShiro]

I love how we don't even know anything about the system, but the fanboys are already writing it off as a useless piece of junk. Frankly, I'd rather see the sequel coming out as an exclusive, even if it was an exclusive for a system I never plan to own, than to see it never come out at all. The important thing (unless you're a selfish fanboy) is that the game is getting some form of recognition beyond just being some rumored piece of vaporware.

 

[Mahorfeus]

Good. I hope Nintendo gets the rights to every vaporware sequel ever and releases them all as system exclusives, and then puts all of their lead characters in the next Smash Bros.

 

[Redryhno]

Uh guys? Shouldn't we wait until after this is confirmed before bashing Nintendo to oblivion? I mean, the rumor comes from the same guy who said the NX would be so easy to code that all you had to do was compile the code. If you have an iota of how coding works you'd laugh this source all the way to the bank. So...calm down.

If it is true, I'm bringing back "SALT FOR THE SALT THRONE!" because man you guys are extremely petty. Did you all do the same when Shenmue 3 was revealed last E3?

To be fair, it is sorta scummy, but hey, I know people don't want to hear about the Bayonetta thing, but the WiiU honestly won me over after that, alot of good things have come out for that system besides Bayo2 and Mario Cart and it honestly re-ignited my drive to actually pick up a gaming device that wasn't PC or GBA. Haven't really looked much into the NX yet, but this gives me a reason.

Hell, if nothing else, Nintendo tells you what you're getting when you buy their digital junk on the box and not in illegible print at the back of the online instruction manual you only get access to after buying and registering your game.

And if the rumor is true, then I'm looking forward to it. If it isn't, it's just back on the pile of "I want it I want it". Don't know why people are complaining about exclusives. Not like this is anything new, especially with Nintendo.

 

[Something Amyss]

I guess I hold the opposite opinion, while exclusivity obvioualy isn't ideal I'd rather the game exist on a platform I don't own than not exist at all.

Even if that means it has the potential to kill the franchise for good?

Now, NX might become more popular than the Xbox, PS4 and PC combined, and the game might sell a billion copies, setting a new industry high mark. But more probably, the uncertainty Nintendo's generated with regards to NX is going to harm it, and limiting it to one platform limits its sales potential. Bayonetta 2 did like, half what the first did. And while people are grasping at straws that a single ambiguous tweet might mean that Bayonetta 3 is on the way (and also an NX exclusive), it's quite possible that the lack of access will kill what was already effectively a pet project for Nintendo.

BGE 2 has been in limbo for so long partially because they handled the first so poorly in the first place.

 

[WhiteTigerShiro]

I guess I hold the opposite opinion, while exclusivity obvioualy isn't ideal I'd rather the game exist on a platform I don't own than not exist at all.

Even if that means it has the potential to kill the franchise for good?

It's more likely to die for good if it remains vaporware than if it gets released on a system you don't like.

 

[rcs619]

http://www.videogamer.com/news/nintendo_steps_in_to_fund_beyond_good_and_evil_2_as_nx_exclusive_report_claims.html

So there's a possibility that Beyond Good & Evil 2 will finally leave the realm of vaporware and actually be made. As an exclusive. For the fucking Nintendo NX... thing.

(Thus ends the informative part of this post.)

*ahem*

Just fuck off Nintendo. Fuck. Right. Off.

I, uh... I think this might just be about as annoyed as it is possible for me to get over video game news. Well, it's not so much news at this point as a tentative rumour based on a vague leak. But if it's true... Christ all-fucking-mighty.

Yes, I remember Bayonetta 2. I know how the counter argument goes. "It wouldn't even exist without Nintendo. Would you prefer it come out as an exclusive or not at all?" Honestly, I'd prefer it not come out at all. I'd rather something I want not exist then exist but be unobtainable because in order to play it I'd have to spend hundreds of dollars on a useless piece of junk that will be good for nothing else besides Mario Kart 17.

I can't remember if I commented on the Bayonetta 2 thing, but if I did then I take it all back. Fuck exclusivity and fuck Nintendo. I've always been content to ignore them, but now, well... now I shall be thinking very unkind things about them indeed. Just you see if I don't!

Seriously though, this makes me wish I owned something made by Nintendo. Like a bunch of those really hard to get crappy plastic toys that everyone goes nuts for. Just so I could pile them up, take a shit on them and set the whole mess on fire.

Honestly, I think you're blaming the wrong party here. If you want to blame anyone, blame Ubisoft. They have been squatting on this IP for over a decade now, bringing it up every few years to tease the fans, and to mention that "Oh man, it sure would be hard to actually make Beyond Good and Evil 2 if our other games don't do well." Ubisoft never intended to make a proper sequel, they were just going to hoard the IP like a dragon and focus on the franchises they have that are currently profitable. Putting out big-budget AAA sequel to a 13 year-old game is just too risky a move for modern publishers, cult-following or not.

So yeah, fuck Ubisoft for not letting go of an IP they never intended to do anything with. All that does is kill IP's and kill beloved franchises. It took THQ imploding under its own weight before *anything* Homeworld ever saw the light of day again. They were never going to do anything else with that IP. They just wanted to hoard it.

That being said, I completely agree that it being exclusive to Nintendo sucks (especially since Nintendo doesn't port a damned thing to PC like a reasonable company), and I can understand why you're upset. On the bright side, there's always Let's Plays.

 

[Evonisia]

Are there any Ubisoft games that actually managed to stay exclusive to the Wii U? The same will likely apply to the NX or whatever it's called.

 

[Neurotic Void Melody]

Jade would make a lovely addition to smash bros! I don't own any more nintendo consoles, but i like their games. They know how to provide excellent quality, regardless of popularity. No one even knows what the NX even is yet, so to get angry about a rumour for a mystery platform appears quite unnecessary. There are people in this world that have to worry about if they can eat for the day, find clean water and a shelter, it would be wise to step back and assess your place in the world before ranting about hypothetically not getting what you precisely want. It is better to exist in some form, as a lover of the original, i would be happy with that. To see it bear fruitation in some form as opposed to none. It would mean being patient and waiting for a chance to finally play it. How have you not dealt with exclusives before? This has been a thing for like decades now.

 

[xaszatm]

I guess I hold the opposite opinion, while exclusivity obvioualy isn't ideal I'd rather the game exist on a platform I don't own than not exist at all.

Even if that means it has the potential to kill the franchise for good?

Now, NX might become more popular than the Xbox, PS4 and PC combined, and the game might sell a billion copies, setting a new industry high mark. But more probably, the uncertainty Nintendo's generated with regards to NX is going to harm it, and limiting it to one platform limits its sales potential. Bayonetta 2 did like, half what the first did. And while people are grasping at straws that a single ambiguous tweet might mean that Bayonetta 3 is on the way (and also an NX exclusive), it's quite possible that the lack of access will kill what was already effectively a pet project for Nintendo.

BGE 2 has been in limbo for so long partially because they handled the first so poorly in the first place.

Getting a sequel > getting nothing. Period. And if this somehow does "kill" the series...the series has been dead for 12 years. I'd rather get a sequel that people really want than not get it at all.

 

[LysanderNemoinis]

http://www.videogamer.com/news/nintendo_steps_in_to_fund_beyond_good_and_evil_2_as_nx_exclusive_report_claims.html

So there's a possibility that Beyond Good & Evil 2 will finally leave the realm of vaporware and actually be made. As an exclusive. For the fucking Nintendo NX... thing.

(Thus ends the informative part of this post.)

*ahem*

Just fuck off Nintendo. Fuck. Right. Off.

I, uh... I think this might just be about as annoyed as it is possible for me to get over video game news. Well, it's not so much news at this point as a tentative rumour based on a vague leak. But if it's true... Christ all-fucking-mighty.

Yes, I remember Bayonetta 2. I know how the counter argument goes. "It wouldn't even exist without Nintendo. Would you prefer it come out as an exclusive or not at all?" Honestly, I'd prefer it not come out at all. I'd rather something I want not exist then exist but be unobtainable because in order to play it I'd have to spend hundreds of dollars on a useless piece of junk that will be good for nothing else besides Mario Kart 17.


I can't remember if I commented on the Bayonetta 2 thing, but if I did then I take it all back. Fuck exclusivity and fuck Nintendo. I've always been content to ignore them, but now, well... now I shall be thinking very unkind things about them indeed. Just you see if I don't!

Seriously though, this makes me wish I owned something made by Nintendo. Like a bunch of those really hard to get crappy plastic toys that everyone goes nuts for. Just so I could pile them up, take a shit on them and set the whole mess on fire.

Amen, my brother (or sister) from another mother! I welcome you to the faith of Fuck Off Nintento. We're like Fuck Konami, except Nintendo has always been a massive bag of dicks. I completely understand that games need exclusives, and Nintendo can grab exclusives all they want, but making the sequel to a competitor exclusive to just Nintendo is a dick move of the highest order. It's like Capcom making Street Fighter 5 exclusive to PS4/PC when the previous games could be on Microsoft systems. Or like Microsoft grabbing Rise of the Tomb Raider, and people bitched at them for that. At least with Rise of the Tomb Raider, the game is just a timed exclusive. I honestly don't care about BG&E2, because I didn't like the first one, but on behalf of all the fans, I'm right there with you.

If the rumors are true, the game will sell almost nothing, lock a game that fans have been dying for behind a several hundred dollar paywall, and just make the fans pissed off at Nintendo and the developers as well. I mean, I'm boycotting Platinum Games for basically pissing in the eyes of the fans who made Bayonetta a property big enough to warrant a sequel for anyone, and then telling us to buy a system for just one game. I'm sure there's a handful of gamers who like both Bayonetta and Nintendo games, but the vast majority of fans of Bayonetta and Beyond Good & Evil are not the type to be big Nintendo fans or the type of person who would buy a WiiU. They most likely either bought a PS4 or Xbone by now, so it's just Nintendo flushing more money down the toilet for a game that won't sell and to aggravate more people.

And for all of you people saying that it doesn't matter, or if you really love the series you should buy the system anyway, imagine if the next Metroid was a Xbone exclusive. Or if the new Zelda was just on PS4. Imagine how pissed off you'd be, how if after all your loyalty to the series, you now have to buy a system you don't want and have no interest in just to play the next game of your favorite franchise.

 

[Musou Tensei]

Well even if, that doesn't mean it would be an actually good game, this is still Ubisoft we are talking about.

 

[BytByte]

I completely understand that games need exclusives, and Nintendo can grab exclusives all they want, but making the sequel to a competitor exclusive to just Nintendo is a dick move of the highest order.

Are you still talking about Beyond good and evil, because it also came out for the gamecube...

OT: I remember when you used to bash Nintendo harder Zhukov, that's why I initially didn't like you until I realized that Nintendo is the only thing we disagree on.

So I want to give you the benefit of the doubt and ask why you hate Ninty so much more than the other guys who do the same practices. All console guys do this specific practice, so it has to be something else.

Unless this ia just your blind spot of rge that everyone has. If so, then bygones and so forth =D