A school fight with an abnormal motive. What's your opinion, escapist?

[RadioactiveTurtle]

Recently, at my sixth form college a fight broke out between a best friend of mine and and one of his ex-friends. Now to make it clear now, this fight wasn't a play ground scuffle; it was brutal and all out: it took two teachers too restrain my friend from continuing the fight where as the other guy could barely move afterwards. Now usually, at our school this is grounds for expulsion for the person who started the fight, if not both of them.

However;
This issue is causing some debate over what should happen to my friend (who from now on will be referred too as "Luke") and to the boy who he was fighting (from here on out will be referred to as "Ryan"). Weeks before this fight, Ryan and Luke ended their friendship because Ryan attempted to rape Luke. The attempted rape has caused Luke some psychological issues and trama, though not severe enough to keep him away from continuing his school life. The head of the sixth form is aware of what happened to Luke, and people who witnessed the fight have said that ryan provoked Luke by mentioning the rape attempt. This information is making it difficult to decide what will happen to the both of them.

So escapist, what do you think should happen?

Edit: the case wasn't taken to court because lukes family didn't want the ordeal to be stretched out any further. They may have been other factors, but I am unaware of these at the time.

Edit: The entire school is not aware of the incident, only the head of sixth is aware; but she has passed the information onwards since the fight.

Edit: I can assure you, this is not a 'troll' or to grab attention. I came here seeking advice and opinions. The reasons I have not been replying is because I live England and I posted this topic before I went to bed. I'd like to thank you all for your imput though.

 

[Radeonx]

I think that Ryan should be expelled and Luke should be suspended.
Even if he is taunting you for something as terrible as rape, you still shouldn't be able to kick the everliving shit out of him, especially in a school. I understand why it is easy to say that Luke shouldn't get any discipline, but getting in a brutal fight at a school can endanger more kids then just the two who are in the start of the fight.
Sucks for Luke, though.

 

[MasterOfWorlds]

I think that Luke should see a therapist to help resolve some of his issues and Ryan should be expelled for the attempted rape of a student. I don't really see much to think about here.

 

[Macgyvercas]

*inhales through teeth*

This is a tricky one. But just going with my gut, I'd say the punishment should be on Ryan for:

A) The attempted rape, and
B) Provoking this incident.

That's just how I see it, anyway.

 

[KaiRai]

Luke was well within his right. Male on male rape is just as bad as male on female. Psychological issues like that are sensitive. Mentioning it again is likely to cause such a thing.

I hope your friend can get the professional help he needs for this.

 

[Grey Walker]

Umm.... how about pressing charges and sending "Ryan" to jail? Or at the very least counseling. Seriously. You don't take stuff like that lightly.

 

[Nickolai77]

Luke may well have psychological trauma, but it isn't be bad enough to stop him attending 6th form. I would give him a lenient punishment on the grounds that he acted out of character under expectational circumstances.

As for Ryan, assuming the attempted rape didn't occur on school property, i would probably be in contact with the police and take things from there.

 

[BytByte]

The be the better person trope seems appropriate, but it's kind of hard to give an opinion based on the given information. How much psychological stress has the rape attempt actually caused "Luke"? Was the egging on by "Ryan" really that bad or an overreaction on "Lukes" part.

So I'd say therapy to see if "Luke" is truly the victim.

 

[gostlyfantom]

ryan should be turned over to the police and luke should get counciling.

 

[rokkolpo]

I think Ryan's penis should be cut off.

And Luke should be given a cookie and ice-cream.
Also props for Luke, I'd like to think I'd dare do the same thing.

 

[DefinitelyPsychotic]

ryan should be turned over to the police and luke should get counciling.

I agree with you.

 

[PettingZOOPONY]

Why the hell didn't anyone do shit about a attempted rape especially since you are saying the school knew about it?

 

[ZehMadScientist]

I'd say Ryan gets expelled and get Luke suspended, the suspension being not for the sake of the fight, but for his own well-being. As for Ryan you should put charges on him.

 

[richd213]

I think that Luke should see a therapist

Why does the word "therapist" have to be spelt exactly the same as "the rapist"?

OT: I pretty much agree with RadeonX: expell Ryan and suspend Luke. I don't know why Ryan wasn't expelled earlier to be honest with you.

 

[SilentCom]

Wow, I just don't know how to start. Luke may need some counseling/therapy, Ryan needs to be kicked out considering he's the one causing the problems.

 

[Mr.Mattress]

ryan should be turned over to the police and luke should get counciling.

I agree, Ryan is clearly a dangerous individual. If he is willing to try and rape a pal, and then mention the rape to said pal, he needs to go to jail. And Luke is clearly troubled by the Attempted Rape that he would beat up someone (Albeit the Attempted Rapist) up, and I think Conciling would be the best option.

 

[Rednog]

Why didn't he go to the police with the attempted rape?
Some kind of really odd situation that someone provokes another person by "mentioning" a rape attempt. I mean what did he say "Hey Luke remember that time I tried to rape you? Funny wasn't?"
People in the real world are like hey uhh I committed a crime, I should probably never mention it again nor mention it to the person who was the victim, for fear that he is going to drag me and everyone who witnessed what I said to the cops. And the school knows about what happened and did nothing?! Bollocks

I mean I really wish I knew what constitutes "attempted rape" in this case; because from the fact that the rapist isn't in jail and the victim is continuing life in school, sounds a bit fishy and makes me think the one guy is just a huge ass who took a joke way too far and the other guy is just really homophobic and got really freaked by the other guy. Maybe I sound like a dick for questioning the victim's actions such a way. But the whole situation sounds kinda odd.

 

[thedeathscythe]

I think that Ryan should be expelled and Luke should be suspended.
Even if he is taunting you for something as terrible as rape, you still shouldn't be able to kick the everliving shit out of him, especially in a school. I understand why it is easy to say that Luke shouldn't get any discipline, but getting in a brutal fight at a school can endanger more kids then just the two who are in the start of the fight.
Sucks for Luke, though.

This solution makes the most sense to me. You still have to punish the guy for fighting, even if he was instigated and even if he was almost raped by him before. I think Ryan still needs a bigger discipline than Luke so expulsion makes sense and maybe even a restraining order so he stays away from the school grounds and from Luke.

 

[Varya]

If Ryan really tried to rape Luke, all the blame is with Ryan. Yeah, one could argue that if you're healthy enough to go back to school, this shouldn't happen, but self evaluating once own psyche isn't easy. In the circumstances, and speaking as someone who has had psychological and rage issues, Luke should seek help, but a punishment beyond that is just wrong. Ryan should without a doubt be expelled, and ideally, go to jail.

 

[FuzzyRaccoon]

I agree with what's being said here, I just don't understand how they could let Ryan go on after attempting to rape Luke in the first place. The loss of control and safety involved in such situations is incredibly damaging, and Ryan bringing Luke back to that vulnerable state of powerlessness by reminding him would naturally cause Luke to retaliate.

So yeah, I agree with expelling Ryan and Luke getting suspended. Though I think Luke should receive counciling for the incident and Ryan should receive at least a psychological profiling. It's important that Ryan doesn't try to rape again or succeed.