A school fight with an abnormal motive. What's your opinion, escapist?

[Judgement101]

He tried to rape him?! The hell is going on in schools these days?!

 

[nothingspringstomind]

Mandatory counseling for Luke (mandatory so it still seems like a punishment) and probable suspension.

Definite expulsion for Ryan and certainly file a police report.

Rape is unacceptable, no matter what.

 

[Dags90]

Why didn't he go to the police with the attempted rape?
Some kind of really odd situation that someone provokes another person by "mentioning" a rape attempt. I mean what did he say "Hey Luke remember that time I tried to rape you? Funny wasn't?"
People in the real world are like hey uhh I committed a crime, I should probably never mention it again nor mention it to the person who was the victim, for fear that he is going to drag me and everyone who witnessed what I said to the cops. And the school knows about what happened and did nothing?! Bollocks

I mean I really wish I knew what constitutes "attempted rape" in this case; because from the fact that the rapist isn't in jail and the victim is continuing life in school, sounds a bit fishy and makes me think the one guy is just a huge ass who took a joke way too far and the other guy is just really homophobic and got really freaked by the other guy. Maybe I sound like a dick for questioning the victim's actions such a way. But the whole situation sounds kinda odd.

Doubts about the legitimacy of any rape claim are usually par for the course. It's nice to see equal treatment of the genders.

I'm going to pull a Johnny 5 and ask for additional input.

 

[derdeutschmachine]

well unfortunately Luke did not ask for the help of a teacher or moderator or higher official in regard to the rape attempt. This puts both parties in the wrong and therefore an expulsion for both is what the university would most likely reccomend.
Never hide serious stuff like rape, it may be embarassing and it may be the worst thing that's ever happened to you, but a swift and serious punishment toward the original offender would have solved this issue before it became what it is today.
I don't agree with the university's noexception policy but in this case they have little else they can do.

 

[Thumper17]

I think that Ryan should be expelled and Luke should be suspended.
Even if he is taunting you for something as terrible as rape, you still shouldn't be able to kick the everliving shit out of him, especially in a school. I understand why it is easy to say that Luke shouldn't get any discipline, but getting in a brutal fight at a school can endanger more kids then just the two who are in the start of the fight.
Sucks for Luke, though.

^^^That^^^

Plus therapy for Luke.

 

[Gitty101]

Wow. I wasn't expecting it to be something like this. My opinion is that Ryan should be expelled from the school and Luke should recieve some form of punishment (but not too severe). It may also be a good idea for Luke to get some further psychiatric help.

 

[Aurora Firestorm]

Here's what I say there...

The fight happened. It's over. Since it's a symptom, not a problem, it should be effectively ignored for now in favor of the actual issues at hand here. (What level of punishment is warranted really depends on, say, Luke's current mental state, and who threw the first punch, and so forth.) Since it was a knock-down drag-out intense fight, they should both be removed from school or at least prohibited from being in each other's presence in any way until this is resolved.

First, the accusation needs investigation. If Ryan is indeed guilty of attempted rape, then he should be punished accordingly. Luke should get whatever counseling or treatment he requires. Hopefully, over time, Luke will regain some of what he lost, and Ryan will do his time in whatever way he ends up doing it.

 

[Nieroshai]

Rules are rules and your friend should bear the penalty, but the rapist should get in trouble with the law.

 

[Naeo]

I think that Ryan should be expelled and Luke should be suspended.

And my opinion is ninja'd in the first response.

 

[Booze Zombie]

The school can't be seen to promote violent resolutions to issues, so they'll probably give your friend a punishment... though, most likely nothing permanent.
The ex-friend will probably have enough social issues from this to deal with, so I imagine whatever the school does is probably going to just be a cherry on top of his bad year.

 

[babinro]

Follow the school rules as normal, the situation leading up to the fight is irrelevant. Whoever started the fight should be expelled. Furthermore, considering the situation, legal action could be taken by the party if they choose to go a step further.

 

[Hero in a half shell]

Umm.... how about pressing charges and sending "Ryan" to jail? Or at the very least counseling. Seriously. You don't take stuff like that lightly.

Yeah, why is an attempted rapist walking about free with absolutely no consequences, shouldn't he be in jail right now?

 

[VanityGirl]

Why the hell didn't anyone do shit about a attempted rape especially since you are saying the school knew about it?

I'm wondering the same thing. The story doesn't really add up if the professors knew about it...

 

[thelonewolf266]

I think that Luke should see a therapist

Why does the word "therapist" have to be spelt exactly the same as "the rapist"?

OT: I pretty much agree with RadeonX: expell Ryan and suspend Luke. I don't know why Ryan wasn't expelled earlier to be honest with you.

I'm ashamed to say I smiled at your post.Bad Lonewolf.Ryan should be charged for attempted rape and expelled and Luke should be sent to therapy.

 

[captaincabbage]

Why wasn't Ryan expelled when he attempted rape? What the fuck is up with your school?

 

[Dastardly]

Recently, at my sixth form college a fight broke out between a best friend of mine and and one of his ex-friends. Now to make it clear now, this fight wasn't a play ground scuffle; it was brutal and all out: it took two teachers too restrain my friend from continuing the fight where as the other guy could barely move afterwards. Now usually, at our school this is grounds for expulsion for the person who started the fight, if not both of them.

However;
This issue is causing some debate over what should happen to my friend (who from now on will be referred too as "Luke") and to the boy who he was fighting (from here on out will be referred to as "Ryan"). Weeks before this fight, Ryan and Luke ended their friendship because Ryan attempted to rape Luke. The attempted rape has caused Luke some psychological issues and trama, though not severe enough to keep him away from continuing his school life. The head of the sixth form is aware of what happened to Luke, and people who witnessed the fight have said that ryan provoked Luke by mentioning the rape attempt. This information is making it difficult to decide what will happen to the both of them.

So escapist, what do you think should happen?

There is information we are not being given. We can't make any kind of informed judgment on this matter. Some of the key questions to be addressed would be:

1. What were the particulars of the alleged rape attempt?
2. When was it, and what was done about it in the intervening period?
3. What were the specifics of the altercation currently being handled?

Because he's your friend, it's reasonable for us (people who don't know you) to assume this information that you're withholding could potentially paint "Luke" in a bad light. But that's exactly what makes it pertinent. To make a fair, objective judgment, we need the info.

If you're just using the word "rape" to garner instant sympathy, and thus agreement, I'm not sure this is the place to try it.