A school fight with an abnormal motive. What's your opinion, escapist?
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If the attempted rape didn't happen in school or have any proof of actually happening, there's no valid excuse for the outburst.
They should both be canned.
They should both be canned.
I'm sorry to bring up humor in this thread, but that reminds me of something from Arrested Development. "I am the world's first analyst and therapist. I call myself an analrapist." *hands out business cards*richd213 said:
Ok, on to serious business. Ryan needs jail time, rape isn't less serious if it's guy-on-guy. As for Luke, he needs therapy. Unfortunately, he would probably also have to be suspended to discourage other fights, but them's the breaks.
Well, even if said rape did not happen, just provoking someone about it is pretty serious.... For Luke, in my opinion, as much painful as it would be, he should leave the school if that's where the rape attempt happened. But not really a punishment or anything.
As fot Ryan, that reallyyyy needs some investigation on a few questions:
1) What kind of disorder does he have for something like this? (considering it was in a place he goes everyday and with one of his friend, I don't think he planned it, so..some kind of impulse?)
2) How was the school not able to see that? (I'm not sure how the teachers are trained, but I guees the undergo some kind of ''children psychology'' course...and rape victims as rapists has some symptoms of behavior)
3) How can the damage be controled? (What kind of therapy is proper for each case? How can the school instruct the sutdents about how to deal with the matter?)
I apologize if I offended someone anyway or commited any mistakes...
As fot Ryan, that reallyyyy needs some investigation on a few questions:
1) What kind of disorder does he have for something like this? (considering it was in a place he goes everyday and with one of his friend, I don't think he planned it, so..some kind of impulse?)
2) How was the school not able to see that? (I'm not sure how the teachers are trained, but I guees the undergo some kind of ''children psychology'' course...and rape victims as rapists has some symptoms of behavior)
3) How can the damage be controled? (What kind of therapy is proper for each case? How can the school instruct the sutdents about how to deal with the matter?)
I apologize if I offended someone anyway or commited any mistakes...
How about Ryan is expelled, Luke gets some counseling, and later Luke sues Ryan getting Ryan sent to jail, costing him a boat load of cash, and for him to see what it feels like from the other side. And Luke get's money and the right to kick Ryan in the balls, burn in hell Ryan ya sick bastard.
Why should it matter if it happened in school? Rape is rape, doesn't matter if they're both guys. Ryan should be arrested, not just expelled.LiftYourSkinnyFists said:
As for the proof, it sounds from the OP like it was common knowledge, so...
Why do we have so many people blaming the victim? Poor Luke, people just don't know what it looks like from his point of view. Rape isn't funny, and I'm able to empathize with luke, having been sexually assaulted by my own mother.
No, I'm not joking. My mom is possibly the worst on the planet.
No, I'm not joking. My mom is possibly the worst on the planet.
An investigation should be launched into the rape, and if proven, Ryan should be convicted (which would obviously involve his expulsion from school). If not proven, things could get tricky =( If he didn't start the fight, and there's nothing to prove that he raped Luke, then there's not much you can do to him?
In Luke's case, I think he should be suspended from school, and use that time to get some serious counseling to help him with his issues. If he was raped, then with those issues. If he wasn't, then with his anger management issues.
Even if Luke was raped, violence is no solution. I can understand (not quite the right word since I've never been raped, but you know what I mean) his desire to exact vengeance on the man who assaulted him, but as others here have said, a fight endangers more than just the two people involved, and sets a poor example to other students. I am surprised Luke started the fight at school, where he would have to admit to others that he was raped to 'justify' his actions.
If you are raped, you should report it immediately, so that (hopefully!) enough evidence can be collected to condemn the guilty party, and obviate the need for vigilante-style 'justice'. Vengeance is tempting, but it hasn't really helped Luke's cause, has it?
In Luke's case, I think he should be suspended from school, and use that time to get some serious counseling to help him with his issues. If he was raped, then with those issues. If he wasn't, then with his anger management issues.
Even if Luke was raped, violence is no solution. I can understand (not quite the right word since I've never been raped, but you know what I mean) his desire to exact vengeance on the man who assaulted him, but as others here have said, a fight endangers more than just the two people involved, and sets a poor example to other students. I am surprised Luke started the fight at school, where he would have to admit to others that he was raped to 'justify' his actions.
If you are raped, you should report it immediately, so that (hopefully!) enough evidence can be collected to condemn the guilty party, and obviate the need for vigilante-style 'justice'. Vengeance is tempting, but it hasn't really helped Luke's cause, has it?
I have a question:
Why is Ryan still at the school in the first place? He should be locked up already. If the attempt happened on school property, he should at least be kicked out already. As it stands, sometimes you must take things into your own hands. Luke should be suspended--the rules must still be enforced--but his suspension should be a bit on the light side.
Ryan can burn for all I care.
Why is Ryan still at the school in the first place? He should be locked up already. If the attempt happened on school property, he should at least be kicked out already. As it stands, sometimes you must take things into your own hands. Luke should be suspended--the rules must still be enforced--but his suspension should be a bit on the light side.
Ryan can burn for all I care.
NO! NO! NO! He should see a Phycologist! Nothing wrong with how that's spelt! No Sir! Nope! Nuh-uh!MasterOfWorlds said:
word for word Ninja'dbabinro said:
The key is that Luke needs to feel validated in his pain and given the appropriate help... but told that the action he took is unacceptable (I wouldn't be able to punish him myself though - hard to punish some when you may very well have done the same thing given the same situation)
"Ryan " attempted to rape "Luke"? And Luke was the one who beat the shit out of Ryan? I would call that karma... Also Ryan should have been expelled long before the fight ever happened, in my honest opinion.RadioactiveTurtle said:
I think Ryan needs to be tried in criminal court, and at that point the fight it nearly trivial.
I thought this. So this guy tried to rape someone and everyone knows? So why isn't he in police custody instead of walking around in the guys school...If I was a parent I'm pretty sure I would be alarmed by that sixth form or no.Grey Walker said: