A school fight with an abnormal motive. What's your opinion, escapist?

[Chairman Miaow]

Why didn't he go to the police with the attempted rape?
Some kind of really odd situation that someone provokes another person by "mentioning" a rape attempt. I mean what did he say "Hey Luke remember that time I tried to rape you? Funny wasn't?"
People in the real world are like hey uhh I committed a crime, I should probably never mention it again nor mention it to the person who was the victim, for fear that he is going to drag me and everyone who witnessed what I said to the cops. And the school knows about what happened and did nothing?! Bollocks

I mean I really wish I knew what constitutes "attempted rape" in this case; because from the fact that the rapist isn't in jail and the victim is continuing life in school, sounds a bit fishy and makes me think the one guy is just a huge ass who took a joke way too far and the other guy is just really homophobic and got really freaked by the other guy. Maybe I sound like a dick for questioning the victim's actions such a way. But the whole situation sounds kinda odd.

I'm with this. In no world would somebody who really tried to rape somebody bring it up. And how is the school aware of it? how is it made public? rumors?

 

[Orpheus III]

Why the fuck did anybody stop Luke from beating the shit our of Ryan?
I know, I know, he could cause serious damage and go to jail, yada yada, but's pretty fucking clear who's in the right.

Luke should press charges, end of story. At the very least, Ryan should be expelled.

 

[Zantos]

Luke needs to properly go to a higher official (the police, or at least a counsellor would be a good start). If he doesn't then he's fully accountable for his actions, and if it's like the college I went to that's expulsion and possibly an assault charge. However if he makes a proper criminal case of Ryan's rape attempt then Ryan making comments about it would probably come under some sort of psychological trauma and Luke would not be accountable for actions as they are a direct result of an emotional attack by Ryan.

And if that isn't the way it works then I think it should be.

 

[TheFloBros]

Why the hell didn't anyone do shit about a attempted rape especially since you are saying the school knew about it?

Exactly the same thing that I was thinking....

 

[Psycho Cat Industries]

Luke should see a psychologist and this Ryan kid should get jailed for rape.

 

[Conza]

Recently, at my sixth form college a fight broke out between a best friend of mine and and one of his ex-friends. Now to make it clear now, this fight wasn't a play ground scuffle; it was brutal and all out: it took two teachers too restrain my friend from continuing the fight where as the other guy could barely move afterwards. Now usually, at our school this is grounds for expulsion for the person who started the fight, if not both of them.

However;
This issue is causing some debate over what should happen to my friend (who from now on will be referred too as "Luke") and to the boy who he was fighting (from here on out will be referred to as "Ryan"). Weeks before this fight, Ryan and Luke ended their friendship because Ryan attempted to rape Luke. The attempted rape has caused Luke some psychological issues and trama, though not severe enough to keep him away from continuing his school life. The head of the sixth form is aware of what happened to Luke, and people who witnessed the fight have said that ryan provoked Luke by mentioning the rape attempt. This information is making it difficult to decide what will happen to the both of them.

So escapist, what do you think should happen?

I say Ryan got what he deserved!

Initially while reading your OP, I was on Ryan's side, but I have absolutley no sympathy now. Especially rape, I mean, if Ryan just made a pass at Luke and he said 'dude, no can do, sorry' or whatever, that's one thing, and if he beat him up just for that, well, then that'd be a bit unfair, however, rape is a completely different story, so I think Ryan should be locked up in Juvie/Jail if he's old enough for Jail (after a fair hearing, in which a jury will doubtless find him guilty).

I think that Ryan should be expelled and Luke should be suspended.

Yeah this sounds about right. Poor Luke thought

I second this (part that was quoted). Also, this thread is in need of a poll... But anyway.

 

[stinkyrobot]

"Ryan" Should be expelled and sent to juvy

 

[Bon_Clay]

I think that Ryan should be expelled and Luke should be suspended.
Even if he is taunting you for something as terrible as rape, you still shouldn't be able to kick the everliving shit out of him, especially in a school. I understand why it is easy to say that Luke shouldn't get any discipline, but getting in a brutal fight at a school can endanger more kids then just the two who are in the start of the fight.
Sucks for Luke, though.

I agree with this completely. While it may have been embarrassing and hard, he should have just pressed charges for the attempted rape. While I would be more lenient for this rather than if he assaulted someone just because he didn't like them, taking it into your own hands is still not the right thing to do to.

 

[Jake0fTrades]

Ryan should have been expelled following the attempted rape, his part in the fight should only serve to further cement his punishment.

As for Luke, the question is whether or not he should have restrained himself from engaging Ryan in the fight, or if Ryan's crimes prior to the engagement justify the pain he sustained during said fight.

Ryan should be expelled, without a doubt. Luke should be suspended pending possible further discipline.

 

[emeraldrafael]

well, "Ryan" should have been expelled and faced criminal charges after the attempt at rape. If I did that to a woman (not sying I do) or any male did that to a woman, you know you'd have the cops up your ass QUICK. So "luke" should have reported it immediately.

Anyway, for this, iw ould say "luke" is suspended and given some help a bit (just to talk this out and so the school knows what happened and can fight this, cause this was one of those ones you dont hear about attempts), and 'ryan" should be expelled for first attempting hte rape, then initiating.

 

[Zeekar]

This feels like a troll (or attention grabbing) thread. The information given is inconsistent with expected realistic scenarios and despite this, there has been no further word from the OP.

I don't know what kind of response this was supposed to garner, but without more/better information, nothing useful can be discussed -- except that violence is never justified except to directly defend oneself and their property (or loved ones) from harm.

 

[higgs20]

a duel, pistols at 20 paces, the survivor gets off scott free.

seriously? if I were luke I don't think I would have waited a few weeks to kick the guys head in. good on him, I hope he gets another chance to beat the shit out of him soon. as for punishment I cant believe that ryan hasn't already been punished, I don't know if you live in backwardsistan but everywhere else attempted rape is very illegal.

 

[Valdus]

I think Luke should be punished, but not as bad as the usual punishment. He has some pretty strong traumas. Maybe force him to see a therapist (ironically just realized that therapist is one space aware from "the rapist").

Ryan should be expelled. Not only for an attempted rape but actively flaunting it. Seriously he is showing no remorse if he can do that which usUally means theres little that will persuAde him to not try it again (not necesserly on Luke though). He should also be given a Darwin award if this leads to his death (seriously? A guy has the capacity to beat the crap out of you and you taunt him using an attempted rape?).

Though I also think Luke's familiy is also a little at fault as well. Not wanting to drag out his trauma? Will you're still sending him to school with the guy who attempted the rape so you're doing a pretty shitty job so far.

 

[Hamster at Dawn]

Wait, attempted rape? Isn't that like a crime or something? Shouldn't the police have got involved? I personally think that Luke was well within his rights to beat the shit out of this Ryan guy, although yeah he should probably see some kind of therapist or something.