A Stranger's music :: #46 Lemetre, Antlers and more Radiohead [video reviews]

[Stranger of Sorts]

Yeah, I had a bad feeling you weren't going to like it.
I fail to see how you can compare Between The Buried And Me to Fear Factory though. COMPLETELY different bands.

To me they seem pretty similar, but then again I'm not familiar with the sub-genres and their differences.

No review today I'm afraid, I was actually dragged out to town and now I'm to be dragged out to some girls house for something that will only ever end in me waking up in the morning with my head feeling as though it will split open.

 

[Gildan Bladeborn]

Yeah, I had a bad feeling you weren't going to like it.
I fail to see how you can compare Between The Buried And Me to Fear Factory though. COMPLETELY different bands.

To me they seem pretty similar, but then again I'm not familiar with the sub-genres and their differences.

I'd love to pop in with a suggestion of something vaguely similar that you might actually enjoy, but having just listened to the first two tracks from Mechanize I realized that's something I can't really do, because I honestly can't imagine you ever liking anything that even vaguely resembled Fear Factory. Heck, I thought those songs were just sonic punishment, and I listen to music with Death Metal elements in it for fun, not just when people are egging me on so I'll write about how much I hated it, heh.

So I'll just leave you with my condolences for the sonic rigors you're putting yourself through for the entertainment of the masses... and this song, which is nothing like Fear Factory at all (by which I mean I think you'll actually like it):

 

[irequirefood]

[HEADING=1]And now for something completely expected
Alaska (the song)
by Between the Buried and Me[/HEADING]

There's an album with the name of this song, but as it is I'll save wading through an hour of this stuff till the review I'm currently running towards. So I'll make this quick, the beginning of this song is fucking insane. I don't know what it is but sweeping arpeggios always sounds awesome. It's just a shame the screaming comes in and ruins it.

I guess you can tell what tomorrow's (hopefully, I may be dragged out to town. Oh the horror. So I won't have enough time.) review will hold.

Thanks for reading. I'm off to play some Minecraft.

Spoiler: If you wanted to read my long post

To start off, I jizzed when I saw this. And no, that was not an exaggeration. What initially attracted me to your reviews today was the fact you had BtBaM in your title. I then proceeded to read your review of Colors, which just so happens to be my favourite album. It sounds like you aren't a fan of their vocals, which is understandable, I don't like them much myself. Which is why if you are reviewing Alaska, you might want to check out the instrumental version of it they released (with a few songs cut from it).

I also noticed you reviewed one of my other favourite albums, Take to the Skies. And I completely agree with how good the entire album is, though I do like Common Dreads a fair bit too. That being said, I didn't get into it until after I started liking a little bit of dance music.

Foals I discovered about two weeks ago, and my god are they good. Been listening to them on repeat for the last few days.

May I suggest a couple of albums that I would love you to review? Don't have to of course, I just thought I would submit some that I love and give you something new to listen to if you hadn't already.
Doppelganger - The Fall of Troy
Breakthroughs in Modern Art - Six Gallery
Cosmology - Rolo Tomassi
Final Conversation of Kings - The Butterfly Effect
Option Paralysis - The Dillinger Escape Plan
Kezia - Protest the Hero

Lastly. Bloc Party. Fuck yes. Though I think I like all their albums equally, as they each have songs I love, and prefer to skip if I'm not in the mood.

 

[Stranger of Sorts]

Yeah, I had a bad feeling you weren't going to like it.
I fail to see how you can compare Between The Buried And Me to Fear Factory though. COMPLETELY different bands.

To me they seem pretty similar, but then again I'm not familiar with the sub-genres and their differences.

I'd love to pop in with a suggestion of something vaguely similar that you might actually enjoy, but having just listened to the first two tracks from Mechanize I realized that's something I can't really do, because I honestly can't imagine you ever liking anything that even vaguely resembled Fear Factory. Heck, I thought those songs were just sonic punishment, and I listen to music with Death Metal elements in it for fun, not just when people are egging me on so I'll write about how much I hated it, heh.

So I'll just leave you with my condolences for the sonic rigors you're putting yourself through for the entertainment of the masses... and this song, which is nothing like Fear Factory at all (by which I mean I think you'll actually like it):

Oh now that is a good song, there's elements of This Will Destroy You in it but it's more varied. Nice.

As far as the review goes, the plan was to be as impartial as possible but it just so happens that the thing I was dragged out to yesterday has left me with a hangover. We'll see if it's still there when I write it.

[HEADING=1]And now for something completely expected
Alaska (the song)
by Between the Buried and Me[/HEADING]

There's an album with the name of this song, but as it is I'll save wading through an hour of this stuff till the review I'm currently running towards. So I'll make this quick, the beginning of this song is fucking insane. I don't know what it is but sweeping arpeggios always sounds awesome. It's just a shame the screaming comes in and ruins it.

I guess you can tell what tomorrow's (hopefully, I may be dragged out to town. Oh the horror. So I won't have enough time.) review will hold.

Thanks for reading. I'm off to play some Minecraft.

Spoiler: If you wanted to read my long post

To start off, I jizzed when I saw this. And no, that was not an exaggeration. What initially attracted me to your reviews today was the fact you had BtBaM in your title. I then proceeded to read your review of Colors, which just so happens to be my favourite album. It sounds like you aren't a fan of their vocals, which is understandable, I don't like them much myself. Which is why if you are reviewing Alaska, you might want to check out the instrumental version of it they released (with a few songs cut from it).

I also noticed you reviewed one of my other favourite albums, Take to the Skies. And I completely agree with how good the entire album is, though I do like Common Dreads a fair bit too. That being said, I didn't get into it until after I started liking a little bit of dance music.

Foals I discovered about two weeks ago, and my god are they good. Been listening to them on repeat for the last few days.

May I suggest a couple of albums that I would love you to review? Don't have to of course, I just thought I would submit some that I love and give you something new to listen to if you hadn't already.
Doppelganger - The Fall of Troy
Breakthroughs in Modern Art - Six Gallery
Cosmology - Rolo Tomassi
Final Conversation of Kings - The Butterfly Effect
Option Paralysis - The Dillinger Escape Plan
Kezia - Protest the Hero

Lastly. Bloc Party. Fuck yes. Though I think I like all their albums equally, as they each have songs I love, and prefer to skip if I'm not in the mood.

Of course I want to read your post. Feedback is scarce and I treasure it intensely. It makes me very happy to hear that the amount of reviews I've done has reached a level that someone could browse through and find things that they like.

Some of your suggestions I've heard, some I haven't, all will be listened to shortly.

Thanks for the feedback.

 

[irequirefood]

Of course I want to read your post. Feedback is scarce and I treasure it intensely. It makes me very happy to hear that the amount of reviews I've done has reached a level that someone could browse through and find things that they like.

Some of your suggestions I've heard, some I haven't, all will be listened to shortly.

Thanks for the feedback.

No problems, I enjoyed the reviews, so I thought I should at least give you something for providing me with entertainment. And if you happen to review that Six Gallery album I posted, I will love you forever...

 

[Stranger of Sorts]

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[HEADING=1]A Stranger reviews
Demanufacture
by Fear Factory[/HEADING]

 

[h4]Genre = Death Metal or sub genre of - is it Industrial? I don't know...

Number of Songs = 11

Highlights = A Therapy for Pain, Self Bias Resistor + Demanufacture[/h4]

 
 

This will not be a very happy review. Why? Because at the moment, I am not a very happy person. I'm sitting here, on my bed, looking into the blinding light that is my laptop, I've been at school for the past 9 hours, I feel like shit, I have an English essay I need to do (though thankfully I have already done half of it), all I can remember about this album (I did the majority of the listening yesterday) is that it hurt my delicate head and now I've got to review the ear hurt before I can get back to Strobe by Deadmau5.

Mkay, now I'm sure the majority of you will know that I'm not a huge fan of "this" type of "music". This is due to an alarmingly large list of reasons that will shortly be revealed in full, the short version of it is it isn't at all like the stuff I listen to and whenever I mention it or link it to something people get annoyed at me because apparently I'm an idiot. And to be brutally honest with you, I don't like being a complete noob novice at something so I tend to cling to my comfort zone. It's cosy and it lulls me to sleep, which is yet another difference between my kind of music and Death Metal. While I listen to music to get into a kind of ecstatic stupor it seems that Death Metalheads (if you are allowed to call them that) enjoy being shouted at.


One thing this album lacks is contrast. From the word go the listener is effectively bombarded with screaming (or as those in the know call it, "growling", which makes it sound a lot more romantic than it really is), heavy guitar and pounding drums. Some people may like this, but I don't and this is my review so I can type whatever the fuck I want, hah! There is one song however that does contain some quiet bits and this song is A Therapy for Pain, the only problem is that the parts where the growler is singing only highlight the fact that he can't actually sing, which is why I call him a growler. It's a shame really because where A Therapy for Pain is more heavy its heavy in a sort of swinging, epic way that is actually quite good. Oh well, what song next?

Ah yes, Self Bias Resistor. This funnily enough, is the only song that really gets my blood pumping and I hate it for that. It's got pretty frantic double-bass pedals going on and it screams a lot and it's making me want to kill my cat so I'm going to turn it off now. Once again, it's really surprosing how people can listen to music that is just so full of hate. I don't even know if I can bring myself to press play again now, I just don't really know why but I sincerely dislike this album/band/genre. The ironic thing is that the hatefulness of it all is probably fuelling it.

Okay I've ranted enough now and I think I've run out of steam. Also, if I go on for too long then someone will become even more offended than I've already made them and come round to my house and beat me to death with the very same cat that this album nearly killed just 2 minutes ago.

I apologise to anyone who loves this kind of music and especially to Unabletothinkofname who's the guy who suggested this. But I leave you with this, if you want to you can review some of my music, let's make it "Silent Alarm" by Bloc Party, I'll anxiously await for it to be ripped to shreds.

- Thanks for reading.

 

[Gildan Bladeborn]

From the word go the listener is effectively bombarded with screaming (or as those in the know call it, "growling", which makes it sound a lot more romantic than it really is)

I think I like the reviews where you hate the album you're reviewing the most, they always make me chuckle (also you've never reviewed anything I actually like and panned it, so I never get the urge to leap to the defense of whatever you've just savaged).

With that in mind, there is a difference between "screaming" and "growling" beyond them both being "not what people traditionally think of as singing", and I would posit that the song you posted wasn't really either (sounded more like vaguely angry Thrash-style shouting to me than growling per se).

Allow me to illustrate the difference through songs you probably won't hate so much that you can't finish listening to them without attempting to murder small fuzzy creatures (you may even guardedly like them)!

Spoiler: Remember that French shoegaze/post-metal one-man-band Alcest I linked you to in my last post here? Well his roots were in Black Metal, which translates into him layering on some (in my view rather extraneous) Black Metal-style shrieks during parts of the second and third tracks from that album. Enclosed in this box is the second track, the Part II to correspond with the Part I that I showed you before, only this one has examples of what Metal fans are talking about when they refer to screaming (thankfully not at such a volume or duration that the track is ruined by it, however inappropriate it might be to the contemplative and otherworldly feel the rest of the music tries to invoke).

If you got far enough in that you heard the initial vocals start, you should have a handle on screaming, which you aren't going to hear very often outside of Black Metal or shitty Metalcore[footnote]Metalcore actually comes by its screaming element from the genre's Hardcore Punk roots, not through the Metal part of its background.[/footnote] bands - growling, or things that sound enough like it to confuse casual listeners, is what you'll hear most of the time when a Metal band employs 'harsh vocals'.

Basically, screaming in Metal is just somebody screaming instead of singing, which is no great feat (keeping it up for an entire album or career is another matter, but everyone can scream), that's all there really is to it. I only ever grudgingly tolerate screaming in Metal, I'm of the mindset that not screaming will improve a song in 100% of cases.

Growling is another matter entirely - whether you like it or hate it, there is a lot more skill involved with actually producing the sounds that constitute Metal growling, which boils down to making your voice sound like a monster is singing instead of a human being. A great deal of the time this ends up making bands employing a growling vocalist sound like they have hired the Cookie Monster to sing Metal songs[footnote]Not a joke, "cookie-monster vocals" is a commonly bandied about term in Metal.[/footnote], which has unintentionally hilarious results for obvious reasons, but when it works it can actually be just the element a given song needed (growling for its own sake though is generally not going to get a recommendation from me, nor will songs that are JUST growling).

Spoiler: To that effect, I present you with Codeword: Uprising, an intriguing song from Israeli band Orphaned Land, which is both the heaviest song they have ever recorded and the perfect example of how a band CAN use growling throughout an entire song while still producing something I find genuinely enjoyable (in most cases the growling bits are the part I sit through to get to all the other bits I actually like).

And there you go, if you've listened to both of those you are now equipped to continue writing things about Extreme Metal that make fans of those genres want track you down and pummel you, but from a slightly more knowledgeable perspective. I'm a helper!

 

[Stranger of Sorts]

Almighty sip

I feel safer already!

That is indeed useful stuff to know, though I don't feel like returning to review this particular genre any time soon.

 

[Aggressor and Usurper]

*folds arms*
Yeah.
This was a bad idea.
Okay. Really. You really had to just rant about the album for 3 paragraphs? That's not a review, that's just bullshit.

I'm sorry, but even if you didn't like the album, it was meant to be a review.\

And no, I'm not going to beat you to death with your cat, although I am relishing the thought. And that was mainly for saying Burton can't sing (HE FUCKING CAN).

[sub][sub]In case you haven't figured it out, that was mostly a joke. Mostly. The cat part wasn't. Honest. <_< AND BURTON CAN FUCKING SING.[/sub][/sub]

ANYWAY. Yeah. Bad idea. I'm not going to rip your music to shreds, I'm going to give you Porcupine Tree's Fear Of A Blank Planet to review next. You should like it more than this.

 

[Gildan Bladeborn]

Almighty sip

I feel safer already!

That is indeed useful stuff to know, though I don't feel like returning to review this particular genre any time soon.

Let me know if you ever do feel up to another foray way outside your comfort zone, as I am a veritable font of knowledge regarding bands you might hate significantly less or even slightly enjoy and I always find it interesting to see how someone who approaches music from a very different standpoint will react to it.

I'm going to give you Porcupine Tree's Fear Of A Blank Planet to review next. You should like it more than this.

In case you're wary of taking recommendations from the fellow who put you up to listening to Fear Factory Stranger, let me chime in to point out that I think that saying "You should like it more" is actually a massive understatement - I would be surprised if you didn't love Porcupine Tree. Remember Guilt Machine? Think along those lines - Fear Of A Blank Planet is exactly the sort of Progressive Rock/Metal that you seem to like the best.

 

[Stranger of Sorts]

*folds arms*
Yeah.
This was a bad idea.
Okay. Really. You really had to just rant about the album for 3 paragraphs? That's not a review, that's just bullshit.

I'm sorry, but even if you didn't like the album, it was meant to be a review.\

And no, I'm not going to beat you to death with your cat, although I am relishing the thought. And that was mainly for saying Burton can't sing (HE FUCKING CAN).

[sub][sub]In case you haven't figured it out, that was mostly a joke. Mostly. The cat part wasn't. Honest. <_< AND BURTON CAN FUCKING SING.[/sub][/sub]

ANYWAY. Yeah. Bad idea. I'm not going to rip your music to shreds, I'm going to give you Porcupine Tree's Fear Of A Blank Planet to review next. You should like it more than this.

Hello neighbour, was wondering when you were going to show up.

I know it was meant to be a review but trust me when I say that I was going easy with Fear Factory. I find your comment about the XX amusing now since from my perspective, people who listen to this type of music do so to fit an image.

I did try to review it properly of course, but I just couldn't.

It saddens me that you won't give Bloc Party a try. I wasn't really asking you to rip it to shreds, but instead I'm interesting in what someone with your music tastes thinks of mine.

Porcupine Tree is going down pretty smoothly, but don't hope for a review on it. I'm going to do some more of "my stuff" for the next few reviews. For me it's a lot more enjoyable and it isn't like I'm paid to do this.

Thanks for stopping by.

Almighty sip

I feel safer already!

That is indeed useful stuff to know, though I don't feel like returning to review this particular genre any time soon.

Let me know if you ever do feel up to another foray way outside your comfort zone, as I am a veritable font of knowledge regarding bands you might hate significantly less or even slightly enjoy and I always find it interesting to see how someone who approaches music from a very different standpoint will react to it.

I will, though in a while. I'm just going through a new period of discovery for dance/electronic music and the like. Not all of it, but the good stuff.

 

[MiracleOfSound]

Once again, it's really surprosing how people can listen to music that is just so full of hate.

...and this is why people who don't get metal should never review it.

The music is not hate filled, it is a cathartic expression of anger in a positive form, and for those of us who just.. feel it... it is a hugely invigorating and positive experience.

There is no better feeling I can think of than listening to metal, it makes me feel happy, energised and positive.

It's catharsis, not hate.

 

[WhamBamSam]

I know it was meant to be a review but trust me when I say that I was going easy with Fear Factory. I find your comment about the XX amusing now since from my perspective, people who listen to this type of music do so to fit an image.

I'd imagine a lot of metalheads have a similar perspective on your type of music.

"People who listen to this type of music are just hipster douchebags doing so ironically." See how easy that was?

Once again, it's really surprosing how people can listen to music that is just so full of hate.

...and this is why people who don't get metal should never review it.

The music is not hate filled, it is a cathartic expression of anger in a positive form, and for those of us who just.. feel it... it is a hugely invigorating and positive experience.

There is no better feeling I can think of than listening to metal, it makes me feel happy, energised and positive.

It's catharsis, not hate.

More than that, consider this. Overarching all the smaller ideas expressed by individual songs or bands is a central theme of chaos omnipresent throughout the metal genre. Music, at it's broadest and most simplistically defined is expression through an ordered pattern of sound. This then means that metal is essentially the use of order to express the concept of chaos. It's Zen and it's beautiful.

Also as I see other people giving suggestions for metal you'd enjoy more - despite your statement about not really wanting to look into them just yet, and despite the band in question being a bit too well known for this review series - I'd urge you to give Iron Maiden's Powerslave album a listen. All the lyrics tie in to imminent death and destruction in one way or another, and yet it's all incredibly upbeat, catchy, and fun. It illustrates these points perfectly.

 

[MiracleOfSound]

More than that, consider this. Overarching all the smaller ideas expressed by individual songs or bands is a central theme of chaos omnipresent throughout the metal genre. Music, at it's broadest and most simplistically defined is expression through an ordered pattern of sound. This then means that metal is essentially the use of order to express the concept of chaos. It's Zen and it's beautiful.

Yes... yes it is....


You put it very eloquently there. I would also add that on a purely primal level, metal stirs somehting deep inside the animal, tribal nature within people that when understood and felt is something quite soothing and spiritual.

It's a release... the chaos and ugliness in metal is a reflection of those same features in our lives, it gives those of us who feel some chaos in our hearts a form of release and purging. Or for some it just makes them feel damn good.

I feel bad for people who don't get it because they're missing out on a wonderful feeling.

Also, why do people keep asking Stranger to review metal when he clearly has no understanding or appreciation of it?

 

[Gildan Bladeborn]

Also, why do people keep asking Stranger to review metal when he clearly has no understanding or appreciation of it?

Because it's funny to wind people up?

I dunno really, the only thing I've ever suggested he think about reviewing was Opeth's Damnation, which I figured he'd like considering it's an album from a metal band that isn't a metal album (and it's really really good, there's that too) - I can't imagine why anyone who's looked through the albums that Stranger picks out to review for himself would ever come to the conclusion that he'd give Fear Factory anything but a thrashing.

I wouldn't say he has he no appreciation for metal though, given he did review the Symphony X album "Odyssey" [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/326.183857-A-Strangers-music-39-Demanufacture-by-Fear-Factory?page=5#6550952] fairly favorably.

I'd imagine a lot of metalheads have a similar perspective on your type of music.

"People who listen to this type of music are just hipster douchebags doing so ironically." See how easy that was?

Oh man, I have to post this song now that you've said that, it's too funny:

 

[Stranger of Sorts]

Man, things have been going down since I've been asleep.

I can completely understand what you (plural here) say when you tell me that metal has a feeling behind it that you have to be tuned in to in order to completely get it. I've felt it before and I still feel it a bit today but I didn't get any of it with Fear Factory.

what he said

The comment about people who listen to this kind of metal was an ironic response to one made on the last page.

Anywho, I do not see myself as missing out in any way by cutting myself off from this genre (not entirely, but mostly), as the music I listen to is about the complete opposite: instead of chaos there is peace, instead of fear there is love and both are beautiful but undeniably different.

I've never come across anyone who appreciates them both.

So tell me, listen to this and tell me what your impressions are.

again

I'd quite like to hear your take on it as well.

I already know what this guy think of Radiohead....

You're right, that is quite funny and scarily close to the truth. Also, I'm not sure they have the right to use pictures of me without permission.

 

[MiracleOfSound]

I'd quite like to hear your take on it as well.

Is that from 'In Rainbows?'

To be honest, it's the one Radiohead album I didn't get. I feel like they've somewhat disappeared up their own collective arse in recent years.

While I enjoyed that song, especially the strings at the end, Thom's voice annoyed me a bit with all the falsetto warbling.

I've been into Radiohead since Pablo Honey and The Bends though (I'm old), so for me that will always be the favorite period... OK Computer for me has never been surpassed in terms of quality and probably never will. (If they do I'll be a happy camper)

My all time favorite Radiohead song though? Pyramid Song from Hail To The Thief. Every time I hear it I swear I want to cry a tear of joy because such exhilarating beautiful art exists in the world. The spiralling piano, the huge string crescendos, the vocal harmonies, the soul and passion in Thom's voice... it's just perfect.


Nowadays though, they just aren't doing it for me.

I don't think metalheads lack appreciation for quiet music, at least I certainly don't. My CD collection has every style imaginable in it. It's just we'll always go back to our favorite style the most.

As for the XX... I can honestly say I can't stand that band and do not see the appeal at all. It just sounds like 2 'cool' French people having a chat while fucking around on that 'oh look how retro and scene it is!' Casio keyboard I had when I was 5.

 

[Stranger of Sorts]

I'd quite like to hear your take on it as well.

Is that from 'In Rainbows?'

To be honest, it's the one Radiohead album I didn't get. I feel like they've somewhat disappeared up their own collective arse in recent years.

While I enjoyed that song, especially the strings at the end, Thom's voice annoyed me a bit with all the falsetto warbling.

I've been into Radiohead since Pablo Honey and The Bends though (I'm old), so for me that will always be the favorite period... OK Computer for me has never been surpassed in terms of quality and probably never will. (If they do I'll be a happy camper)

My all time favorite Radiohead song though? Pyramid Song from Hail To The Thief. Every time I hear it I swear I want to cry a tear of joy because such exhilarating beautiful art exists in the world. The spiralling piano, the huge string crescendos, the vocal harmonies, the soul and passion in Thom's voice... it's just perfect.


Nowadays though, they just aren't doing it for me.

I don't think metalheads lack appreciation for quiet music, at least I certainly don't. My CD collection has every style imaginable in it. It's just we'll always go back to our favorite style the most.

As for the XX... I can honestly say I can't stand that band and do not see the appeal at all. It just sounds like 2 'cool' French people having a chat while fucking around on that 'oh look how retro and scene it is!' Casio keyboard I had when I was 5.

As long as those two French people keep making good songs on their Casio keyboard I'm fine

I do love a bit of Pyramid song and I too went into Radiohead in the days of The Bends, mostly due to the fact that as an acoustic guitar player who's been to the exact same schools as most of the band I've lived under their shadow for a while. But I have to say that to me, Reckoner is as good as, if not a little better than, Pyramid Song.

Maybe I was wrong when I said that the two types of music are completely separate, we just all have our preferences and we see beauty in whatever sequence of notes that gets our brains going.

I am interesting in sharing in this deeper feeling of metal but for whatever reason, I just can't.

 

[MiracleOfSound]

Maybe I was wrong when I said that the two types of music are completely separate, we just all have our preferences and we see beauty in whatever sequence of notes that gets our brains going.

So very, very true. It's all about what makes you feel a certain way when you hear it, that is the only way music should really be judged.

I am interesting in sharing in this deeper feeling of metal but for whatever reason, I just can't.

Which, of course, is completely ok.

I dunno why everyone is trying to nag you into liking metal, you can't force something like that.

 

[Aggressor and Usurper]

Snip

You may be surprised to learn Helicopter by Bloc Party is one of my favourite non-metal songs ever. They, to quote Miracle, seem to have disappeared up their own arses since Silent Alarm but I do think that's a good album. Love The Bends by Radiohead, too. This is not meant to be macho, but Street Spirit (Fade Out) is the only music I've ever cried while listening to.

I didn't expect you to review Porcupine Tree, but I'm glad you're liking it. They, with FF, would be my joint favourite band.

Snip of various recent posts

You made the point much better than I ever could. What metal stirs in me and why I love it is exactly what he said.