a world with no smoking

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anti-hero_will

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The Infamous Scamola said:
The world's cool ratio would go down tenfold.

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because when aliens come down they will be like
what no smokeing. you used to be cool we would smoke all day and night and watch the kids play with smoke filled lungs because we hot boxed them in a glass chamber, couldent see them tho. good times
when did that happen
5 years ago, oh earth years
you were called aztecs then. btw,fyi the world will end in 2012 so might aswell give up the ban on stuff. just a deal we had, dont worry will be quick look at this lazer kicks george lucas's deathstars ass

yes i do have a good mind
 

AvsJoe

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Hmm... lets debate the pros and cons of a world without smoking...

Pros:
Many less cases of cancer among the populace
Many people who didn't deserve to die (i.e. non-smokers) would still be among the living
Most people's teeth and drapes would look a lot nicer
That horrible smell and those stupid ads (for cigarettes, Nicorette, and quitting smoking campaigns) wouldn't exist

Cons:
With no tobacco taxes, government has much less money to work with leading to more budget cuts to schools, hospitals, the military...
People would be angrier leading to more cases of violent crimes and assaults
Other vices such as alcohol, drugs, and (possibly) prostitution would be much worse
Obesity would be even worse in first-world countries
Cancer research wouldn't be as popular leading to less knowledge of the subject

I'm missing a couple of points but all in all it looks like a non-smoking universe would only be slightly favourable to the one we live in.
 

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theunreliablecritic said:
imagine if there was a world where there was no such thing as smoking. I personally think that it would be a great place where less people would die of all of those hideos diseases that smoking can offer.
What do you have against Hideo!>?

It would change... precisely nothing in all likelihood.

Humans are very talented when it comes to imaginative ways of killing ourselves. If it isn't smoking we'll quickly move onto something else.
 

WeedWorm

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Micklet said:
I love living in ireland....we dont let people smoke in places of work, or in cars while driving. basicly outdoors, at least 10ft away from the door and in there own homes are the only places we let them smoke. We dont even let my mam smoke in the house. The only reason its not illegal in most countries is the amount of tax govs make on them. 8.45 a pack in ireland, about 5 goes straight to the gov. It should be illegal, its suicide and murder all in one, your slowly killing yourself and afflictin those around you with second hand smoke. Ive had to give up sports because of second hand smoke from my own mother.
The smoking and tobacco laws in Ireland are fucking stupid. The government has no fucking right to make those laws. It should be up to the owner of the building.
Why should it be illegal? Who the hell are you to say what I can and cant put into my body? Ill smoke if I gods damn want to. Smoking should not be illegal just because of a few inconsiderate assholes like your mother.
 

Random Argument Man

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Oh great....The smoking is evil thread of the week. Instead of saying my position, I'll just say one thing.

A world without smoking wouldn't have one of my favorite films: Thank you for smoking. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iBELC_vxqhI

EDIT: Oh and the 60s and 70s would've been boring.
 

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Zeithri said:
Macgyvercas said:
Zeithri said:
Macgyvercas said:
I think that no smoking in the world is too big a step. Let's start with no smoking at the bus stop. I hate it when people do that. Second hand smoke is evil.
It is also illegal to smoke at busstops.
It is? Huh. Then why don't the cops nail them?
Because no one cares really.
If it's America though, then I don't know.
But it is illegal in Sweden to smoke at busstops, yet everyone who smokes still does that.
Asshats really, but it do give you the oppertunity to either ask them politely or just snatch it from their lips and stomp on it.
Now I'd enjoy pulling a cigarette out of someone's mouth and stomping on it.

OT: Ban cigarettes if you want to, but keep the cigars. They are much more badass.
 

Micklet

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WeedWorm said:
The smoking and tobacco laws in Ireland are fucking stupid. The government has no fucking right to make those laws. It should be up to the owner of the building.
Why should it be illegal? Who the hell are you to say what I can and cant put into my body? Ill smoke if I gods damn want to. Smoking should not be illegal just because of a few inconsiderate assholes like your mother.
There not just in Ireland anymore, there in parts of America, Scotland, England, Italy and Switzerland. We just led the way. And as much as you will state that its your right to do whatever you want to, if you want to live in society you have to live by societys rules, if you all you want to do is crib, then get out. Its as simple as. Smoking, as much as you may enjoy it, is suicide, but on top of that its murder too. Because of "inconsiderate assholes" like my mother and other smokers I cant even go for a jog. Not to mention all the barmen and service industry employees with breathing ailments. Or the sky rocketing cases of asthma in the upcoming generations. Or the fact that CF is at an alltime high, what about those people? There are absolutely no positive affects of smoking either on the body or in society, the amount of revenue lost would be balanced out by the decline in lung related patients being admitted to hospitals. Smokers are a drain on society. Im not having a personal go at you, smokers can be lovely people, ive a good few friends that smoke, just the world would be a better place without smoking.
 

WeedWorm

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Micklet said:
There not just in Ireland anymore, there in parts of America, Scotland, England, Italy and Switzerland. We just led the way. And as much as you will state that its your right to do whatever you want to, if you want to live in society you have to live by societys rules, if you all you want to do is crib, then get out. Its as simple as. Smoking, as much as you may enjoy it, is suicide, but on top of that its murder too. Because of "inconsiderate assholes" like my mother and other smokers I cant even go for a jog. Not to mention all the barmen and service industry employees with breathing ailments. Or the sky rocketing cases of asthma in the upcoming generations. Or the fact that CF is at an alltime high, what about those people? There are absolutely no positive affects of smoking either on the body or in society, the amount of revenue lost would be balanced out by the decline in lung related patients being admitted to hospitals. Smokers are a drain on society. Im not having a personal go at you, smokers can be lovely people, ive a good few friends that smoke, just the world would be a better place without smoking.
Live by societys rules? Unfortunately, I have to even if they are a load of shit. Not every rule though keep in mind.
As for barmen, do they have to work in the bar? No, they dont have to work there but they choose to, so its their own problem. If they dont like it, they can leave. Well, not so much anymore cause of the whole lack of jobs and whatnot.
I dont see what either CF or asthma have to do with this but whatever. Its a pretty simple solution, dont smoke near someone who has a breathing disorder. Sure, you might not know if anyone around you has a breathing disorder but if they have half a brain, theyll ask you to stop or move away or maybe even move away themselves. And you have any shred of respect, youll move away at the very least.
I never said anything about smoking having a positive or negative affect on society but Ill roll with it. Sure, smoking kills people buts thats the person choice. If they want to kill themselves slowly and expensively, who are you to stop them?
Anyway, if tobacco was made illegal, why not make caffine illegal? Thats bad for you. Alcohol too while youre at it and any fatty foods. In fact, why dont we just get rid of everything thats bad for us? Its a completely stupid and ridiculous idea to try to make an substance illegal because prohibition doesnt work and it will never work.
 

Stephanos132

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I never got all this hate against smokers. You're not legally or morally obliged to be in their vicinity (the main exception being, of course, a child with smoking parents, but the parents should know better than to smoke in the house anyway), and there existed smoke-free environments long before the smoking bans kicked in, so, really, what's the big problem? Second hand smoke would only ever be an issue in poorly ventilated indoor areas (and third hand smoke is a bloody joke), so outside or having semi-decent aircon pretty much deals with that issue (admittedly, that's a problem if you're in a listed building, but that's hardly the fault of smokers).

It'll be drinkers next I bet.

Edit: Of course, I forgot there already are non-drinking areas in the UK. I can't help but start to draw parallels here.
 

Ryokugax

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I'm going to say something that people might disagree with, but it's my personal opinion. Smoking is horrible for you, yes, but some people look extremely cool smoking. Yes, it's a shallow reason, but there are certain people out there for whom smoking is both big and clever. I'm one of them, but because of the health risks I choose not to smoke. My neighbour, however, is another and he does smoke. Smoke rollups, they're cheaper and don't have as much crap in them as packet fags.
 

johnman

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They would just find somthing else equaly as harmful
I smoke occasionally but as a habit I hate it.
 

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theunreliablecritic said:
imagine if there was a world where there was no such thing as smoking. I personally think that it would be a great place where less people would die of all of those hideos diseases that smoking can offer.
Oh, boo.

Go make your own personal police state and let me degrade my lungs as i like.
 

Yubadias

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I think it would be best if you were only allowed to smoke in your own home, or in maybe a special hotel if you're on vacation. Smoking is disgusting and really should be kept personal, if kept legal.
 

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AvsJoe said:
Cons:
With no tobacco taxes, government has much less money to work with leading to more budget cuts to schools, hospitals, the military...
People would be angrier leading to more cases of violent crimes and assaults
Other vices such as alcohol, drugs, and (possibly) prostitution would be much worse
Obesity would be even worse in first-world countries
Cancer research wouldn't be as popular leading to less knowledge of the subject
the first and last points are potentially a bit iffy, but the other points are crazy!

-With no tobacco taxes, government has much less money to work with leading to more budget cuts to schools, hospitals, the military...
that would be an issue, though many people would regard military budget cuts as a good thing ;)

-People would be angrier leading to more cases of violent crimes and assaults
what? the main reason smoking calms people is due to it satisfying the nicotine craving.
not smoking does not make you more violent, nor does smoking make you less violent.
Unless you have some research to back you up there...

Edit: thinking about it, i could argue that smoking makes people more violent, as anyone thats been near irritable-smokers that have had the craving really hit will have seen (seeing smokers try to rush off a trans-atlantic flight to get the the smoking areas as fast as possible is *hilarious*) :)

-Other vices such as alcohol, drugs, and (possibly) prostitution would be much worse
not smoking drives people to prostitution? since when?
alcohol/drugs potentially a little, but i'd be highly surprised if any change wasn't essentially negligible

-Obesity would be even worse in first-world countries
not smoking makes you fat?
not sure where you're even coming from with that comment.

-Cancer research wouldn't be as popular leading to less knowledge of the subject
possibly. personally i think there wouldn't be much difference in funding, because cancer hits smokers and non-smokers alike, just smokers have a higher risk...
 

speedcoreXdandy

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ChromeAlchemist said:
It would make for a lot of unsociable and uptight people. If they want to kill themselves then let them.

(puts fantasy hat on) They should just develop cigarettes like the ones on Policenauts that don't give off harmful second hand smoke.
*ahem* http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-488991/Smoke--cigarette-thats-legal-indoors.html

Anyway on topic silly hypothetical question is silly.
 

Legion

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I think anyone who claims that smoking should be banned while not thinking the same of alcohol is a filthy hypocrite personally. The same goes for anyone who dislikes smoking but promotes any other drug.
 

Adam

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Why stop at smoking? Why not get rid of alcohol and other harmful drugs? Although I believe it's none of my business what a person does, drinks, eats or puts into their body as long as they do not harm anyone else. If it's behind closed doors then who am I to complain you know?