just watch that episode of southpark, pretty much what would happen =P http://www.southparkstudios.com/episodes/103801
A World without religion
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I believe we would be in a very good place without religion, mostly because the majority of the worlds conflicts have been over religion. Hitler probably would have still done his bit, he'd just need a different scape goat.
This is actually kind of funny timing, I just just got back from my front door, where I had a rather amusing conversation with some people from The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day-Saints. Basically, some Mormons tried to make me religious, and I told them how I fealt about it.
=D
This is actually kind of funny timing, I just just got back from my front door, where I had a rather amusing conversation with some people from The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day-Saints. Basically, some Mormons tried to make me religious, and I told them how I fealt about it.
=D
It would eliminate all the stupid wars that God/gods was used as an excuse for.
Or humans might fight over even more trivial things.
It would also take a way a great deal of entertaining myths, stories, and art.
I mean seriously Norse mythology, and some of the Old Testament stories in Christianity are really entertaining and are commonly drawn on for metaphors and such in literature, not to mention things like paintings and maybe even video games that took influence from them.
Or humans might fight over even more trivial things.
It would also take a way a great deal of entertaining myths, stories, and art.
I mean seriously Norse mythology, and some of the Old Testament stories in Christianity are really entertaining and are commonly drawn on for metaphors and such in literature, not to mention things like paintings and maybe even video games that took influence from them.
I would argue it the exact opposite, who gives a shit if we fuck this life up not like theres not another one waiting for us! In my view people seriously, seriously disrespect sacrifice, undervalue war, death, poverty, climate change afterall if a person has such a deep rooted beleif in another life why would these things rank up as any more than trivialities or bumps in the road.khaimera said:
Depends. What do you mean by "religion?" Do you mean belief in a deity/deities? Or belief in supernatural forces and realms, or even metaphysical forces and realms? Or code of morality and ethics? Or a philosophical worldview even if it is materialistic? Or a system of rites? Would any of it count without an organization of some sort of clerics? Would believing in anything you haven't physically experienced count as religion? Is belief in the future, then, religion?
I suspect some mass suicide in the distant past.
It was dark and harsh times back then, almost all cultures dreamt up some sort of religion to make some sense of it all. It was almost a survival mechanism in itself for man to cope, hope, and live on.
It was dark and harsh times back then, almost all cultures dreamt up some sort of religion to make some sense of it all. It was almost a survival mechanism in itself for man to cope, hope, and live on.
there are/were always those whom belive(d) in only what they saw and therefore knew.
IMO the world would be much better off without religion now, see Bill Mahr's movie religilious. seriously has no pllace in modern society, and only serves to hold us back.
IMO the world would be much better off without religion now, see Bill Mahr's movie religilious. seriously has no pllace in modern society, and only serves to hold us back.
I doubt you'd see much difference in way of lack of religion.
Basically you'd still have religion, people would worship some higher power. Be it, science, or a deity, they will worship it.
There will be dogmas, and people will congregate with similar beliefs to discuss or listen about them.
To try and picture a world without religion is like to try and imagine a robot with a sense of self awareness. That robot HAS to recognize that it is a creation, it HAS to wonder what created it, and it HAS to assume that that being(or other machine) is its superior in a way it may never understand.
You cannot undo the nature of existence. Only the VOID has no creator, only the VOID can sustain existence. Because a creator must have no beginning, or end. It must exist forever, even if the very nature of its existence, is non-existence.
Human beings have already shifted to worshiping Science in the stead of an ethereal being. After millennia of worshiping science, what will be next?
It is entirely feasible and likely, that eventually human beings will choose to worship the idea that there is no creator whatsoever, they may in fact choose to believe sometime down the road that they have always existed in such an enlightened and sophisticated state. They have always been, and will always be. They themselves are creators, and possibly the gods of this realm, they were not themselves created in away, be it through science or religion. They have simply always been.
The idea of "A world without religion" is truly intriguing, but like the VOID, all voids must be filled. In this case, it is 100% likely that the void would be filled with something so strikingly similar to religion, that there would be almost no change whatsoever. Or maybe we'd be five thousand years more advanced, because we'd have worshiped science to begin with.
Who can say, right? Great topic.
Basically you'd still have religion, people would worship some higher power. Be it, science, or a deity, they will worship it.
There will be dogmas, and people will congregate with similar beliefs to discuss or listen about them.
To try and picture a world without religion is like to try and imagine a robot with a sense of self awareness. That robot HAS to recognize that it is a creation, it HAS to wonder what created it, and it HAS to assume that that being(or other machine) is its superior in a way it may never understand.
You cannot undo the nature of existence. Only the VOID has no creator, only the VOID can sustain existence. Because a creator must have no beginning, or end. It must exist forever, even if the very nature of its existence, is non-existence.
Human beings have already shifted to worshiping Science in the stead of an ethereal being. After millennia of worshiping science, what will be next?
It is entirely feasible and likely, that eventually human beings will choose to worship the idea that there is no creator whatsoever, they may in fact choose to believe sometime down the road that they have always existed in such an enlightened and sophisticated state. They have always been, and will always be. They themselves are creators, and possibly the gods of this realm, they were not themselves created in away, be it through science or religion. They have simply always been.
The idea of "A world without religion" is truly intriguing, but like the VOID, all voids must be filled. In this case, it is 100% likely that the void would be filled with something so strikingly similar to religion, that there would be almost no change whatsoever. Or maybe we'd be five thousand years more advanced, because we'd have worshiped science to begin with.
Who can say, right? Great topic.
This question is stupid, religion was vital to humanitys rise to begin with. Religion gave us a light in the darkness, reason in our lives, an origin and a place in the world. Untill science came along all we had to face this cruel world was what we had at hand and the refuge of our minds.
Besides if we didnt have religion then Christian Monks wouldnt have discovered how to make coffee, soda or Mendel and his study of genetics (I listed these accomplishements in order of importance). There are countless things that have been influenced by religion for better or worse, and even as an Atheist I wouldnt have it any other way.
Besides if we didnt have religion then Christian Monks wouldnt have discovered how to make coffee, soda or Mendel and his study of genetics (I listed these accomplishements in order of importance). There are countless things that have been influenced by religion for better or worse, and even as an Atheist I wouldnt have it any other way.
The world might actually be a worse place to live in. Now now now, atheists out there listen before you respond please, I myself am agnostic(I have changed, if you look at any of my previous posts in religion threads, I said I was atheist) and immediately thought that a world without religion would be SWEET, but then I had a thought. Imagine if you will, a world where hundreds of thousands(if not more) of people have not died in pointless religious wars and such. There would be that many more people in history, plus how many more today. We are already nearing our carrying capacity and if that many people had lived, the problem would loom much closer if not upon us now. SO, I ask you atheists specifically, would it really be a better place? Yes, you wouldn't have to deal with the nonsense of people that are overly devout and talk your ear off and people going dorr-to-door to hand out pamphlets that people just burn anyway. Woah, got off track there, anyway, any questions or comments or what-not, just drop me a message.
But through his political and religious reasoning he established in 1933, a German Reich Christian Church, uniting the Protestant churches to instill faith in a national German Christianity.Glefistus said:
Future generations should remember that Adolph Hitler could not have come into power without the support of the Protestant and Catholic churches and the German Christian populace.
quote from, http://www.nobeliefs.com/hitler.htm
I'm gonna tell you the facts look like he came to power with religon whether or not he cared more about his political power or religous belief. Seems as tho mein kampf had a lot of religous fanatsicm that influenced the german people. They had religon in WWI but they didn't make the war a religous thing it was a political gamble that as forced on them by the system of alliances, theywanted to go to war but not with the whole goddamn continent(as my teacher would say). WWII was getting back like you said but also they were infuenced to keep fighting by HItler and the beliefs he instilled in the German people. They would have given up when the allies started invading but they kept being pushed to fight by those beliefs, partially religous. I'm not saying that Hitler wouldn't have come to power at all with religon but it played more than a small part in his rise and WWII.
