Abortion Doctor found guilty of murder following late-term abortions

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RedDeadFred

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krazykidd said:
RedDeadFred said:
krazykidd said:
Johnny Novgorod said:
Disgusting. I'm all for abortion, but killing the poor thing AFTER it's been born is just monstruous. I mean you already gave birth, what's stopping you from delivering it to an orphanage?
Wait wait . You do realise that the women that wanted an abortion went there ? So they wanted the baby aborted . He just used questionable methods of getting it done . He's no monster , it's not like he did anything without the mothers consent .

OT: i don't think he should be accused of murder . Maybe malpractice . But not murder . And even less have the death penalty . But americans love killing, and babies . So all the " OMG THEIR JUST BABIES" people are going to want the death penalty , and call this guy a monster .
They were living human beings at that point and he killed them. I'm all for abortion but killing the baby after it's been delivered is murder. If a guy walked into the maternity ward in a hospital and shot all the newborns, that would be murder. The only difference is that he's doing it with scissors and with the mother's consent. THAT DOESN'T MATTER. If a mother kills her child after she's given birth, she has killed a living human being that had a right to at least go to an orphanage.
I agree that he doesn't deserve the death penalty but I'm against that in general. He should however get life in prison.
And what about the mothers that came to him? He didn't walk into a maternity ward and killed infants , that's exactly my point . The mother came to him so he could " abort " them . If you ask me they are more guilty of murder than he is .
....You realize what abortion is right? He didn't abort them, that's the point. He straight up killed them. Although I do agree, the mothers willingly giving there newborn babies over to be killed should be considered just as guilty.
 

Aramis Night

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I'm as big a fan of abortion as anyone. To the point where i think it should be mandatory unless you can prove that you have at least $250,000 on deposit somewhere strictly allocated to the child's upbringing.
So.....by that logic,I,my brother,hell even the rest of my family,should not exist!? I really hope that is just a poor joke,because otherwise that is quite the cruel thing to say....
Perhaps. Have you ever considered the possibility that you shouldn't exist? Or are you too married to your own sense of self-importance and ego to even entertain the possibility? It isn't personal on my end and i mean no offense by stating any of this. My intention isn't to be cruel or mean. I'm not trying to say that you and your family existing is a mistake. But does the existence amount to anything more than existing for the sake of it. Most people exist for just that reason.

I was supposed to have been aborted. I regret that i wasn't. My parents were not compatible and i suffered greatly as a result of that. I was doomed from the start because 2 people made the wrong decision. Had they went through with the abortion instead of bailing at the last minute, everyone would have been better off, and yes that includes me. My dad wouldn't have been haunted for the rest of his life by my mother betraying him over me. He wouldn't have turned to heavy drug use and died of an overdose leading to a fatal heart attack. My mother wouldn't have had to turn to prostitution to survive because she was on the run since she kidnapped me when my father had legal custody. And i wouldn't have had to endure years of abuse at the hands of resentful step-parents.

I just would prefer that people be more responsible about breeding. But since that isn't going to ever happen on its own since some idiot came up with the idea that creating more doomed miserable spawn is a "right", I believe it should be a privilege that you have to earn.

Whoever said that life is a gift was a sadist. The only reason life seems so good is because death experiences tend to be worse. I only wish i could have died without ever knowing how yet to feel pain or be conscious of the concept of death. I will always hold not aborting me against my parents for being so vain, greedy and egotistical. They had no chance to give me a decent life and they knew it.
 

krazykidd

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RedDeadFred said:
krazykidd said:
RedDeadFred said:
krazykidd said:
Johnny Novgorod said:
Disgusting. I'm all for abortion, but killing the poor thing AFTER it's been born is just monstruous. I mean you already gave birth, what's stopping you from delivering it to an orphanage?
Wait wait . You do realise that the women that wanted an abortion went there ? So they wanted the baby aborted . He just used questionable methods of getting it done . He's no monster , it's not like he did anything without the mothers consent .

OT: i don't think he should be accused of murder . Maybe malpractice . But not murder . And even less have the death penalty . But americans love killing, and babies . So all the " OMG THEIR JUST BABIES" people are going to want the death penalty , and call this guy a monster .
They were living human beings at that point and he killed them. I'm all for abortion but killing the baby after it's been delivered is murder. If a guy walked into the maternity ward in a hospital and shot all the newborns, that would be murder. The only difference is that he's doing it with scissors and with the mother's consent. THAT DOESN'T MATTER. If a mother kills her child after she's given birth, she has killed a living human being that had a right to at least go to an orphanage.
I agree that he doesn't deserve the death penalty but I'm against that in general. He should however get life in prison.
And what about the mothers that came to him? He didn't walk into a maternity ward and killed infants , that's exactly my point . The mother came to him so he could " abort " them . If you ask me they are more guilty of murder than he is .
....You realize what abortion is right? He didn't abort them, that's the point. He straight up killed them. Although I do agree, the mothers willingly giving there newborn babies over to be killed should be considered just as guilty.
Yeah , that's why i put abort in quotation marks . He didn't go out seeking to kill babies , the mothers wet to him . So the death penalty seems pretty harsh.
 

Seydaman

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What...he delivered the baby...and then killed it? Seems pretty clear cut to me...
Although, if we allow abortions up until the point where the baby is no longer dependant on the (birth) mother, would this still be murder? As I understand it (and I may be wrong, I'm not knowledgable on this) the embilical cord is sort of a nutrient line...? Can that be artificially done outside of the mothers body?
 

mrblakemiller

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I never cease to be amazed by the speed with which "A woman's right to choose!" becomes "That's murder!" What if he'd done it a second before delivery? A day? A week? A month (premature babies are born and survive every day)? So it goes...