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Caspertjuhh

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I see a lot of german hate on these forums. I considered these forums to be relatively mature, yet I see so much historical fails.

It is indeed commom belief, that the Germans were responsible for both WW1 and 2.

I think it is very hypocrite to think ONLY the germans were responsible for those wars, and also very naive to think Germany was the only country in europe with jew hate around WW2. France was worse, but the lost, so they couldn't help it.

And most of all, it wasn't like all germans are nazi's. Better yet, almost all the country's they conquered had a lot of nazi-germany sympathisers.

And, no, I am not German, I am a Dutch history student.

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Celtic_Kerr

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caspertjuhh said:
France was worse, but the lost, so they couldn't help it.
Did the french create internment camps and perform attempted genocide? NO!

Yes, WW1 was a big mess of baltic-area conflict that exploded with the death/assassination of Franz Ferdinand. WW2 was started because of many issues MAINLY revolving around Hitler and then he decided to invade Poland.

Okay, maybe other nations also hated the Jews, but before you create a thread like this, read up on your history, see who finally pulled the trigegr and who killed THOUSANDS UPON THOUSANDS of jewish people.

Thank you

EDIT: I read the post wrong, no, not ALL germans were nazis
 

Jazzyjazz2323

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Hell WW1 wasnt even Germany's fault they were just a good ally who lost and got stuck with the blame.
 

tomtom94

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Hey, Godwin's Law!

Of course Germany wasn't the ONLY cause of World War II, it was just their invasion of Poland which started it, and their war with mainland Europe which mostly perpetrated it, and, er...yeah, exactly who else? Fascist Italy I suppose.

As for WWI, again, it wasn't entirely Germany but it was mostly Germany.

And I'm fairly certain no-one believes all Germans were or are Nazis.
 

Caspertjuhh

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Celtic_Kerr said:
caspertjuhh said:
France was worse, but the lost, so they couldn't help it.
Did the french create internment camps and perform attempted genocide? NO!

Yes, WW1 was a big mess of baltic-area conflict that exploded with the death/assassination of Franz Ferdinand. WW2 was started because of many issues MAINLY revolving around Hitler and then he decided to invade Poland.

Okay, maybe other nations also hated the Jews, but before you create a thread like this, read up on your history, see who finally pulled the trigegr and who killed THOUSANDS UPON THOUSANDS of jewish people.

Thank you

EDIT: yes the germans were nazis. They created the S.S and called themselves nazis. It's not a term that people came up with for them, they called themselves Nazis.
yes, so dit HITLER. Do you not blame Obama for bad taxes? not the neighbours?
 

Lacsapix

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I am German (well my mother is).
and well Germany was responsible for WW1 and 2 although 2 was more like a reaction to WW1 (every ball that falls will bounce before it falls again). And mosst of the germans in WW2 had a "opinion" jews, My grandfather says that they dindn't knew better
"If you where poor,hungry and lost brothers in WW1 you bet you'll walk with the right hand in the air".

So what you are saying isn't entirely true but in some sence it is.
(I am also dutch but my mother is 100% German and I have learned both sides of this WW-coin)
 

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GamesB2 said:
caspertjuhh said:
I see a lot of german hate on these forums.
Really?

Must be looking a lot harder than I am...
This...

There are not much German hate on this forum. Much more of the French and American hate, anyway... Most people have put past events behind them, and no civilized modern man would generalize Germans as nazi's...
 

WorldCritic

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There's a lot of German hate on these forums? I haven't noticed. I mean I see some Hitler hate here and there but I've never had anyone sending me a hate filled message after I say that I'm part German.
 

Verlander

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I don't know anyone who seriously believes that every German is a Nazi, or hates every German person because of the Wars.

I don't see as much German hate on these forums as you seem to, I'd say there is an equal amount of hate directed at everyone, and its mostly internet hate (ie: not serious, spoken in a relatively consequence free environment).
 

Caspertjuhh

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FargoDog said:
WW2 pretty much sparked off when the Germans invaded Poland, which completely shattered the policy of Appeasement the British had been following since Hitler came to power, in that the UK decided not to just sit around any more and actually take offensive action against Germany. Hitler's lust for land was the catalyst for World War 2, so I think it's fair to blame Germany for that.
You are literally blaming GERMANY for the actions of ONE, being hitler.

Sure he had followers, but all charismatic people get followers. Combine that with a smart minister of Propaganda, and you indoctrinate an entire people
 

Celtic_Kerr

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caspertjuhh said:
Celtic_Kerr said:
caspertjuhh said:
France was worse, but the lost, so they couldn't help it.
Did the french create internment camps and perform attempted genocide? NO!

Yes, WW1 was a big mess of baltic-area conflict that exploded with the death/assassination of Franz Ferdinand. WW2 was started because of many issues MAINLY revolving around Hitler and then he decided to invade Poland.

Okay, maybe other nations also hated the Jews, but before you create a thread like this, read up on your history, see who finally pulled the trigegr and who killed THOUSANDS UPON THOUSANDS of jewish people.

Thank you

EDIT: yes the germans were nazis. They created the S.S and called themselves nazis. It's not a term that people came up with for them, they called themselves Nazis.
yes, so dit HITLER. Do you not blame Obama for bad taxes? not the neighbours?
I'm Canadian, I don't blame obama for anything. To be honest I don't blame anyone for taxes. Hitler was a fachist ruler, his word was law. If Obama decides to create a law, then the senators can veto it if they find it won't go well. Obama doesn't have supreme power. That's why people say "The government sucks". It has to go through a few more people
 

brodie21

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dude, germany started world war two and continued fighting in world war one even after those who had started it had stopped fighting. they executed six million people of jewish descent and bombed the shit out of london.

hate against germans of world war 2 is justified
 

Caspertjuhh

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Celtic_Kerr said:
caspertjuhh said:
Celtic_Kerr said:
caspertjuhh said:
France was worse, but the lost, so they couldn't help it.
Did the french create internment camps and perform attempted genocide? NO!

Yes, WW1 was a big mess of baltic-area conflict that exploded with the death/assassination of Franz Ferdinand. WW2 was started because of many issues MAINLY revolving around Hitler and then he decided to invade Poland.

Okay, maybe other nations also hated the Jews, but before you create a thread like this, read up on your history, see who finally pulled the trigegr and who killed THOUSANDS UPON THOUSANDS of jewish people.

Thank you

EDIT: yes the germans were nazis. They created the S.S and called themselves nazis. It's not a term that people came up with for them, they called themselves Nazis.
yes, so dit HITLER. Do you not blame Obama for bad taxes? not the neighbours?
I'm Canadian, I don't blame obama for anything. To be honest I don't blame anyone for taxes. Hitler was a fachist ruler, his word was law. If Obama decides to create a law, then the senators can veto it if they find it won't go well. Obama doesn't have supreme power. That's why people say "The government sucks". It has to go through a few more people
I do agree that it was a questionable comparison by me.. I am not quite capable in english yet.

But my point is, He WAS indeed a fascist ruler, but you can NOT blame the germans.

He would have gotten votes etc. in any country. He was a gifted politician, combined with strong parnters and ministers.
 

Aiden_the-Joker1

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Really the cause was a Siberian assassin, France and Britain's ally, who killed Franz Ferdinand causing Austria-Hungary to retaliate, which made Russia attack them, German and Italy then came to their ally's defence which France into it. Germany then invaded Belgium to get to France. Which caused Britain to get involved. Many people look at WW2 as Germany getting revenge for the unfair peace treaty they were forced to sign. So you could say WW1 caused WW2. or you could just say Nazis are the embodiment of evil because they are the most racist and violent people you have heard of.
 

Caspertjuhh

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brodie21 said:
dude, germany started world war two and continued fighting in world war one even after those who had started it had stopped fighting. they executed six million people of jewish descent and bombed the shit out of london.

hate against germans of world war 2 is justified
you are misenterpreting.

Germans affect 80 million people who live peaceful east of holland.

They were indoctrinated by Hitler and his fellows.

It is NOT fair to say 'the GERMANS killed 6 mil. jews.'
 

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caspertjuhh said:
And most of all, it wasn't like all germans are nazi's.

/rant
But a majority of German's did democratically put Hitler into power by legal elections.

Also, I have never seen any 'German hate' on this site...