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We all know the appeal of Christmas and Thanksgiving, getting together with people you like and celebrate. I can see the appeal of Easter and Halloween, even though not everybody celebrates them, they are something from the past that became ingrained in culture (heck, my country doesn't even celebrate Halloween and yet it's a staple in the minds of people and events such as fairs and some schools).

But I honestly can't see the appeal of Valentine's Day, maybe because I don't have "the one" to celebrate with, but even if I had or was married, I still wouldn't see the appeal of it since love is something fairly universal. So I guess people celebrate being in a relationship, and I'm not sure how I feel about that.

On one hand, for a day, you get to remember all of the ups of a relation without the downs; but isn't it the whole point of one the fact you and your partner work out your differences so you can achieve hapiness together? On the other hand, it's definitely sending some sort of message that only people dating/married/etc. deserve a "holiday" and people that are single for choice (of lack thereof) should be looking up to them and that seems to contradict the whole "spread the love" message.

Maybe it's because where I live Valentine's day is celebrated in June rather than February, but I can't help but wonder if that says more about the cultures or this "holiday" itself.
 

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Igor-Rowan said:
We all know the appeal of Christmas and Thanksgiving, getting together with people you like and celebrate. I can see the appeal of Easter and Halloween, even though not everybody celebrates them, they are something from the past that became ingrained in culture (heck, my country doesn't even celebrate Halloween and yet it's a staple in the minds of people and events such as fairs and some schools).

But I honestly can't see the appeal of Valentine's Day, maybe because I don't have "the one" to celebrate with, but even if I had or was married, I still wouldn't see the appeal of it since love is something fairly universal. So I guess people celebrate being in a relationship, and I'm not sure how I feel about that.

On one hand, for a day, you get to remember all of the ups of a relation without the downs; but isn't it the whole point of one the fact you and your partner work out your differences so you can achieve hapiness together? On the other hand, it's definitely sending some sort of message that only people dating/married/etc. deserve a "holiday" and people that are single for choice (of lack thereof) should be looking up to them and that seems to contradict the whole "spread the love" message.

Maybe it's because where I live Valentine's day is celebrated in June rather than February, but I can't help but wonder if that says more about the cultures or this "holiday" itself.
It's not really a holiday, we still have to go to work. It's about selling flowers, chocolate and wine. And it isn't really about spreading love, it's about indulging in it with your incredibly lucky significant other. I'd be dead sore if I had to love everyone.
 

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Now I'm curious about what country you live in. But Valentine's day is a very polarizing thing. On one hand, it's great if you're in a loving, committed relationship. But if you're not, it can just be a reminder of how alone you are in this cold, unfeeling world.

I'm sure you can imagine which side I'm on.

The second one. Obviously.
 

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Now I'm curious about what country you live in. But Valentine's day is a very polarizing thing. On one hand, it's great if you're in a loving, committed relationship. But if you're not, it can just be a reminder of how alone you are in this cold, unfeeling world.

I'm sure you can imagine which side I'm on.

The second one. Obviously.
Honestly not really. First off St. Valentine isn't a saint anymore. The church basically demoted him when his celebration day became more about anal sex than love.
And secondly...its a hallmark holiday. It has nothing to do with romance or love or long lasting relationships and all to do with sex. Its all about commercialism and how you can buy sex. Buy her candy/roses/jewelry and she'll wear sexy lingerie and let you put it in a hole you don't usually get to put it in.

Don't bother feeling alone or cold on this day. Always remember half of the people celebrating are getting a dick in the ass, the other half get poop on them. And Victoria's Secret and Chocolate R Us make a mint.
 
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If you don't have a significant other or the one you have isn't interested in it, then it's NOT FOR YOU. It's for the people who are into it.

As a kid it was just another way to get candy. As an adult it's either "meh, nothing special" or "Aww, I wuv woo".

I'm kind of sick of the pessimism I see on Facebook and elsewhere about it every year. GREAT. You're alone and don't care about valentine's day. Nobody fucking cares. Let the people who enjoy it actually enjoy it.

Just like any Holiday, unless you live in an area filled with Christmas with the Kranks psychopaths, you can celebrate it however the hell you want and no one should care. And if they do care, fuck them. I'll have Taco Bell and strawberry shortcake for Thanksgiving dinner if I want to, and we'll give gifts on the Fourth of July under a miniature recreation of Mount Rushmore.
 

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I don't know man, I've always kind of liked V-Day, and I spent the last two of them single, tho this one I do have a lady-friend to celebrate it with

I use it as an excuse to give candy to the people I care about, even if it's only coworkers, family members, friends, or that dude who works at the burrito truck. Actually that last guy does hold a very special place in my heart.
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If you don't have a significant other or the one you have isn't interested in it, then it's NOT FOR YOU. It's for the people who are into it.

As a kid it was just another way to get candy. As an adult it's either "meh, nothing special" or "Aww, I wuv woo".

I'm kind of sick of the pessimism I see on Facebook and elsewhere about it every year. GREAT. You're alone and don't care about valentine's day. Nobody fucking cares. Let the people who enjoy it actually enjoy it.

Just like any Holiday, unless you live in an area filled with Christmas with the Kranks psychopaths, you can celebrate it however the hell you want and no one should care. And if they do care, fuck them. I'll have Taco Bell and strawberry shortcake for Thanksgiving dinner if I want to, and we'll give gifts on the Fourth of July under a miniature recreation of Mount Rushmore.
Yeah pretty much this, let people be happy for things
 

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Ezekiel said:
DrownedAmmet said:
DeliveryGodNoah said:
If you don't have a significant other or the one you have isn't interested in it, then it's NOT FOR YOU. It's for the people who are into it.

As a kid it was just another way to get candy. As an adult it's either "meh, nothing special" or "Aww, I wuv woo".

I'm kind of sick of the pessimism I see on Facebook and elsewhere about it every year. GREAT. You're alone and don't care about valentine's day. Nobody fucking cares. Let the people who enjoy it actually enjoy it.

Just like any Holiday, unless you live in an area filled with Christmas with the Kranks psychopaths, you can celebrate it however the hell you want and no one should care. And if they do care, fuck them. I'll have Taco Bell and strawberry shortcake for Thanksgiving dinner if I want to, and we'll give gifts on the Fourth of July under a miniature recreation of Mount Rushmore.
Yeah pretty much this, let people be happy for things
But they're in a relationship. They have every day to be happy about it. Why do they need that one day to celebrate it? Is their relationship so shallow? Besides, they already have relationship anniversaries.

I just don't like listening to people talk about what they're doing with their girlfriends. I usually don't even think about being single, but this day sometimes rubs it in. And there's no purpose for it. They're with their "valentine" on a daily basis. Most holidays are fucking dumb.
Cuz when you're in a relationship, sometimes you forget to take time for yourselves. People have things going on in their lives, and they sometimes get caught up in the day-in day-out shit, it sometimes helps to look at a holiday and go "You know what, lets do something special for us tonight."

And if you're not in a relationship, it may suck, but February is the month where most relationships begin, so it also serves as a kick in the ass for some people

If seeing other people be happy makes you sad, then maybe that's your issue, not the other people's
 
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Ezekiel said:
DrownedAmmet said:
DeliveryGodNoah said:
If you don't have a significant other or the one you have isn't interested in it, then it's NOT FOR YOU. It's for the people who are into it.

As a kid it was just another way to get candy. As an adult it's either "meh, nothing special" or "Aww, I wuv woo".

I'm kind of sick of the pessimism I see on Facebook and elsewhere about it every year. GREAT. You're alone and don't care about valentine's day. Nobody fucking cares. Let the people who enjoy it actually enjoy it.

Just like any Holiday, unless you live in an area filled with Christmas with the Kranks psychopaths, you can celebrate it however the hell you want and no one should care. And if they do care, fuck them. I'll have Taco Bell and strawberry shortcake for Thanksgiving dinner if I want to, and we'll give gifts on the Fourth of July under a miniature recreation of Mount Rushmore.
Yeah pretty much this, let people be happy for things
But they're in a relationship. They have every day to be happy about it. Why do they need that one day to celebrate it? Is their relationship so shallow and commercial? Besides, they already have relationship anniversaries.

I just don't like listening to people talk about what they're doing with their girlfriends. I usually don't even think about being single, but this day sometimes rubs it in. And there's no purpose for it. They're with their "valentine" on a daily basis. Most holidays are fucking dumb.
If I had the free time to spend "Christmas" with my family almost everyday, I would. But I don't. And neither does anyone else. It's easier to simplify those occassions to a day (or several depending how you celebrate it). People like having things to look forward to. Could we be better to each other as people regardless? Of course we could, and we should, but sometimes it's nice to express it bigger than you're capable of during a normal day.

Valentine's is the same way. Of course a couple together should appreciate each other and give affection every chance they are together, but it's nice to do so in a special way during a certain day of the year.
 

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It is fine if you dont like the pessimistic people being pessimistic on Valentines, but it is also fine if people dont like all the couples bragging.

If you have someone for Valentines day, then you shouldnt even be worrying about those bummed about it. Enjoy your partner and let the venters vent.

Kinda hard to side with the -haves- complaining about the -have not's-.
 

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Honestly not really. First off St. Valentine isn't a saint anymore. The church basically demoted him when his celebration day became more about anal sex than love.
And secondly...its a hallmark holiday. It has nothing to do with romance or love or long lasting relationships and all to do with sex. Its all about commercialism and how you can buy sex. Buy her candy/roses/jewelry and she'll wear sexy lingerie and let you put it in a hole you don't usually get to put it in.

Don't bother feeling alone or cold on this day. Always remember half of the people celebrating are getting a dick in the ass, the other half get poop on them. And Victoria's Secret and Chocolate R Us make a mint.
That's... oh my. I've read it like 4 times now and I still don't quite understand what's in front of me. Almost as if the left side of my brain is trying to reject it while the right side is trying to decode it.

I guess I should clear up by saying I was just talking about the secular side of Valentine's day, I've got no clue about the religious aspects. I was always under the impression that Saint Valentine was a guy who ran some snakes out of a village once upon a time. But it's much more fun to imagine him as the patron saint of anal sex.

Also I don't think the gifts are so much a bribe for sex (anal or otherwise) as much as they are just pleasant gestures of love. Or at least I desperately hope so. When I was a yougin' Valentine's Day was a day to approach your crush and see if they liked you back. Nowadays it's a day for me to drink Jamaican beer until I can no longer feel the stinging pain of crippling loneliness.

As an aside, there's nothing inherently dirty about anal sex. There are a lot of, shall we say, cleansing techniques that people employ. I won't claim to be an expert, but if anyone is getting covered in shit, I think they're doing it wrong.

Poop should never enter the equation. Ever. Ever. Ever.
 

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Eh, it's also the anniversary of Australia adopting decimal currency, which made things much easier.
 

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Ezekiel said:
DrownedAmmet said:
DeliveryGodNoah said:
If you don't have a significant other or the one you have isn't interested in it, then it's NOT FOR YOU. It's for the people who are into it.

As a kid it was just another way to get candy. As an adult it's either "meh, nothing special" or "Aww, I wuv woo".

I'm kind of sick of the pessimism I see on Facebook and elsewhere about it every year. GREAT. You're alone and don't care about valentine's day. Nobody fucking cares. Let the people who enjoy it actually enjoy it.

Just like any Holiday, unless you live in an area filled with Christmas with the Kranks psychopaths, you can celebrate it however the hell you want and no one should care. And if they do care, fuck them. I'll have Taco Bell and strawberry shortcake for Thanksgiving dinner if I want to, and we'll give gifts on the Fourth of July under a miniature recreation of Mount Rushmore.
Yeah pretty much this, let people be happy for things
But they're in a relationship. They have every day to be happy about it. Why do they need that one day to celebrate it? Is their relationship so shallow and commercial? Besides, they already have relationship anniversaries.

I just don't like listening to people talk about what they're doing with their girlfriends. I usually don't even think about being single, but this day sometimes rubs it in. And there's no purpose for it. They're with their "valentine" on a daily basis. Most holidays are fucking dumb.
It's not like any day has particular worth for celebrating.

I don't celebrate it, neither me nor my gf cares for it really, but it gets annoying when people complain a lot about it. Don't see the point in complaining about others enjoying themselves.
 

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Saelune said:
It is fine if you dont like the pessimistic people being pessimistic on Valentines, but it is also fine if people dont like all the couples bragging.

If you have someone for Valentines day, then you shouldnt even be worrying about those bummed about it. Enjoy your partner and let the venters vent.

Kinda hard to side with the -haves- complaining about the -have not's-.
Well, the haves are just having fun among themselves here. The have nots are grumpy about that.

It's also pretty different from haves and have nots when it comes to something like money. It's two people who found they liked each other, not someone bragging about their parents money or something. I usually think of haves and have-nots when it comes to things that are unfair, like distribution of wealth and the power that comes with it, not two people liking each other.
 

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The Decapitated Centaur said:
Saelune said:
It is fine if you dont like the pessimistic people being pessimistic on Valentines, but it is also fine if people dont like all the couples bragging.

If you have someone for Valentines day, then you shouldnt even be worrying about those bummed about it. Enjoy your partner and let the venters vent.

Kinda hard to side with the -haves- complaining about the -have not's-.
Well, the haves are just having fun among themselves here. The have nots are grumpy about that.

It's also pretty different from haves and have nots when it comes to something like money. It's two people who found they liked each other, not someone bragging about their parents money or something. I usually think of haves and have-nots when it comes to things that are unfair, like distribution of wealth and the power that comes with it, not two people liking each other.
It is not the biggest injustice in the world, especially since some may prefer to be in the have not category here, and plenty of haves, have something that is bad for them, but ultimately this just feels like people complaining about complainers for complaining, which seems...counter-intuitive.
 

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Saelune said:
The Decapitated Centaur said:
Saelune said:
It is fine if you dont like the pessimistic people being pessimistic on Valentines, but it is also fine if people dont like all the couples bragging.

If you have someone for Valentines day, then you shouldnt even be worrying about those bummed about it. Enjoy your partner and let the venters vent.

Kinda hard to side with the -haves- complaining about the -have not's-.
Well, the haves are just having fun among themselves here. The have nots are grumpy about that.

It's also pretty different from haves and have nots when it comes to something like money. It's two people who found they liked each other, not someone bragging about their parents money or something. I usually think of haves and have-nots when it comes to things that are unfair, like distribution of wealth and the power that comes with it, not two people liking each other.
It is not the biggest injustice in the world, especially since some may prefer to be in the have not category here, and plenty of haves, have something that is bad for them, but ultimately this just feels like people complaining about complainers for complaining, which seems...counter-intuitive.
I mean, I see it as one group is complaining for dumb reasons and the other points it out
 

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The Decapitated Centaur said:
Saelune said:
The Decapitated Centaur said:
Saelune said:
It is fine if you dont like the pessimistic people being pessimistic on Valentines, but it is also fine if people dont like all the couples bragging.

If you have someone for Valentines day, then you shouldnt even be worrying about those bummed about it. Enjoy your partner and let the venters vent.

Kinda hard to side with the -haves- complaining about the -have not's-.
Well, the haves are just having fun among themselves here. The have nots are grumpy about that.

It's also pretty different from haves and have nots when it comes to something like money. It's two people who found they liked each other, not someone bragging about their parents money or something. I usually think of haves and have-nots when it comes to things that are unfair, like distribution of wealth and the power that comes with it, not two people liking each other.
It is not the biggest injustice in the world, especially since some may prefer to be in the have not category here, and plenty of haves, have something that is bad for them, but ultimately this just feels like people complaining about complainers for complaining, which seems...counter-intuitive.
I mean, I see it as one group is complaining for dumb reasons and the other points it out
I think people in relationships wanting to enjoy Valentines Day should spend it enjoying Valentines Day with their partner instead of complaining about people who are essentially not part of an extremely commercial holiday that reminds you about it all day.

Alot easier to not be bothered by the holiday when you can avoid it, but even off of Facebook it has been Valentines/Romance episode of everything. It is tiring to be reminded of being single.
 

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Saelune said:
The Decapitated Centaur said:
Saelune said:
The Decapitated Centaur said:
Saelune said:
It is fine if you dont like the pessimistic people being pessimistic on Valentines, but it is also fine if people dont like all the couples bragging.

If you have someone for Valentines day, then you shouldnt even be worrying about those bummed about it. Enjoy your partner and let the venters vent.

Kinda hard to side with the -haves- complaining about the -have not's-.
Well, the haves are just having fun among themselves here. The have nots are grumpy about that.

It's also pretty different from haves and have nots when it comes to something like money. It's two people who found they liked each other, not someone bragging about their parents money or something. I usually think of haves and have-nots when it comes to things that are unfair, like distribution of wealth and the power that comes with it, not two people liking each other.
It is not the biggest injustice in the world, especially since some may prefer to be in the have not category here, and plenty of haves, have something that is bad for them, but ultimately this just feels like people complaining about complainers for complaining, which seems...counter-intuitive.
I mean, I see it as one group is complaining for dumb reasons and the other points it out
I think people in relationships wanting to enjoy Valentines Day should spend it enjoying Valentines Day with their partner instead of complaining about people who are essentially not part of an extremely commercial holiday that reminds you about it all day.

Alot easier to not be bothered by the holiday when you can avoid it, but even off of Facebook it has been Valentines/Romance episode of everything. It is tiring to be reminded of being single.
I mean, it's not like they can't do both. I'm sitting here talking to my gf via discord as I type.

It also never bothered me before I was in a relationship and I always found the complaints annoying then too *shrug*
 

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The Decapitated Centaur said:
Saelune said:
The Decapitated Centaur said:
Saelune said:
The Decapitated Centaur said:
Saelune said:
It is fine if you dont like the pessimistic people being pessimistic on Valentines, but it is also fine if people dont like all the couples bragging.

If you have someone for Valentines day, then you shouldnt even be worrying about those bummed about it. Enjoy your partner and let the venters vent.

Kinda hard to side with the -haves- complaining about the -have not's-.
Well, the haves are just having fun among themselves here. The have nots are grumpy about that.

It's also pretty different from haves and have nots when it comes to something like money. It's two people who found they liked each other, not someone bragging about their parents money or something. I usually think of haves and have-nots when it comes to things that are unfair, like distribution of wealth and the power that comes with it, not two people liking each other.
It is not the biggest injustice in the world, especially since some may prefer to be in the have not category here, and plenty of haves, have something that is bad for them, but ultimately this just feels like people complaining about complainers for complaining, which seems...counter-intuitive.
I mean, I see it as one group is complaining for dumb reasons and the other points it out
I think people in relationships wanting to enjoy Valentines Day should spend it enjoying Valentines Day with their partner instead of complaining about people who are essentially not part of an extremely commercial holiday that reminds you about it all day.

Alot easier to not be bothered by the holiday when you can avoid it, but even off of Facebook it has been Valentines/Romance episode of everything. It is tiring to be reminded of being single.
I mean, it's not like they can't do both. I'm sitting here talking to my gf via discord as I type.

It also never bothered me before I was in a relationship and I always found the complaints annoying then too *shrug*
I just dont like holidays period. Were great when it got you out of school, but it loses its usefulness after that. TV is always shit on holidays.

If people want to complain about people who complain about Valentines day, well, its not going to stop them, and I am not going to feel bad for them when they are in a relationship.

Anytime I am in a relationship on Valentines day, I am actually probably going to celebrate it to some degree, and not worry about others. Basically I think it is more annoying to complain about Valentines day when you arent single than when you are.
 

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Saelune said:
The Decapitated Centaur said:
Saelune said:
The Decapitated Centaur said:
Saelune said:
The Decapitated Centaur said:
Saelune said:
It is fine if you dont like the pessimistic people being pessimistic on Valentines, but it is also fine if people dont like all the couples bragging.

If you have someone for Valentines day, then you shouldnt even be worrying about those bummed about it. Enjoy your partner and let the venters vent.

Kinda hard to side with the -haves- complaining about the -have not's-.
Well, the haves are just having fun among themselves here. The have nots are grumpy about that.

It's also pretty different from haves and have nots when it comes to something like money. It's two people who found they liked each other, not someone bragging about their parents money or something. I usually think of haves and have-nots when it comes to things that are unfair, like distribution of wealth and the power that comes with it, not two people liking each other.
It is not the biggest injustice in the world, especially since some may prefer to be in the have not category here, and plenty of haves, have something that is bad for them, but ultimately this just feels like people complaining about complainers for complaining, which seems...counter-intuitive.
I mean, I see it as one group is complaining for dumb reasons and the other points it out
I think people in relationships wanting to enjoy Valentines Day should spend it enjoying Valentines Day with their partner instead of complaining about people who are essentially not part of an extremely commercial holiday that reminds you about it all day.

Alot easier to not be bothered by the holiday when you can avoid it, but even off of Facebook it has been Valentines/Romance episode of everything. It is tiring to be reminded of being single.
I mean, it's not like they can't do both. I'm sitting here talking to my gf via discord as I type.

It also never bothered me before I was in a relationship and I always found the complaints annoying then too *shrug*
I just dont like holidays period. Were great when it got you out of school, but it loses its usefulness after that. TV is always shit on holidays.

If people want to complain about people who complain about Valentines day, well, its not going to stop them, and I am not going to feel bad for them when they are in a relationship.

Anytime I am in a relationship on Valentines day, I am actually probably going to celebrate it to some degree, and not worry about others. Basically I think it is more annoying to complain about Valentines day when you arent single than when you are.
As I see it, holidays do nothing negative to me at worst, and can be enjoyable at best.

Meh, as I see it it's more annoying that people complain about people being happy than it is to respond to complainers.