OP: I don't have absurd debates. All my debates are awesome.
I'm just that cool.
Johanthemonster666 said:
I really can't understand people like this, it's just a veiled way of saying "I don't give a f&&k about what happens to you or what discrimination/prejudices you face because I don't deal with them and I don't understand why people get married anyway" I can tell he's young and or single, because I've never heard anyone brush off the concept of marriage so much as to say it has no legal significance, even for people who are denied that and other kinds recognition.
I disagree. I think the point he was making, with which I agree, was that marriage is a pointless and incredibly dated institution that archaeological evidence suggests first arose with the Abrahamic religions.
I think the two of you were arguing across one another. He was arguing that marriage itself is worthless and you were arguing that legal discrimination is bad, yet neither of you were actually addressing one another's points so it wasn't really a debate of any form, just statements.
I think it's rough to say, essentially, that "well he must be a child or a virgin because all couples agree that marriage is great!". That strikes me as unfair and I disagree. None of the girls I've dated think marriage is a good idea and I definitely don't. Thankfully, English society seems to agree with me as marriage is fast going the way of the dinosaur with fewer and fewer people getting married. I predict that marriage rate is roughly proportional to religiosity, as the latter has been freefalling in the past half century and so too has marriage rate.
For the record I do agree that the law shouldn't be discriminating based upon sexuality and if there's any church that's willing to marry homosexuals then a homosexual marriage should be legally equivalent to a heterosexual marriage. What I don't agree with (and neither do my gay friends, thankfully) is the concept of legally
forcing churches to marry homosexuals; telling a church that it
must accept homosexuality, however strongly its beliefs are against it, is antithetical to the concept of diversity and represents a slide towards tyranny of the majority.
Again, for the record, I'm an atheist and despise religion. However, I respect the right of the religious to believe whatever insane nonsense they wish and strongly oppose any measures to restrict their liberty with regards to practising what they believe.