Achievements have ruined my gaming.

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Zeldadudes

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Right so let me just explain that i have an xbox and i play this xbox quite frequently.
Recently i've looked up at my games, i have around 12 varying from Bioshock to Transformers, and thought
"Hmmm why should i play these when the achievements are so hard?"
I think i've lost the plot a little as all i can think about is these bastarding achievements...
I buy a game, get as many achievements as i can get, then let it gather dust...

Just a bit curious if anyone else is feeling the same way as me?

P.s. Sorry about the (no text) at the beginning.
 

NeedAUserName

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Edit: Not failing anymore, I apologize for that.

On topic, achievements only ruin gaming if you let them. If you ignore them then its just a nice surprise when you get one. Instead of tirelessly grinding for them.
 

SecretTacoNinja

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How do people keep managing this?

Honestly...

Oh and why are we trolls for complaining? I don't get that either.

Aaanyway, I tend complete the game then think about achievements, I don't let them get in the way. If they allowed you to buy stuff on XBLA with the points you get from achievements then I would be REALLY obsessive.
 

Janus Vesta

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Achievement have made me a better gamer. They set a goal for me to acomplish and make me better myself as a gamer. If the acievements are too easy I make my own up now.
 

wordsmith

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Nah, the main ***** about achieves is actually achieve whores. That bastard who jumps into the chopper and spends the whole match flying it into the corner of the skybox, away from the action, just so he can get a pilot achieve.
 

cuddly_tomato

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SecretTacoNinja said:
Oh and why are we trolls for complaining? I don't get that either.
Pepole are trolling when they go about posting in someone elses thread just to comment that they don't like the thread. It is pretty rude and isn't necessary on a forum. If a thread doesn't interest you, just click back and read another. That is the entire point of forums.

@Op - I can't stand the achievement thingies. I hate doing a quest or soemthing and then getting that retarded pop-up super-imposed on my screen. If I could I would turn them off.
 

TMAN10112

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Achivements never really bothered me that much, I try to get some of the fun ones and leave the insert-soul-here difficult achivements to the achivement whores like my friends.
 

BallPtPenTheif

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wordsmith said:
Nah, the main ***** about achieves is actually achieve whores. That bastard who jumps into the chopper and spends the whole match flying it into the corner of the skybox, away from the action, just so he can get a pilot achieve.
Yeah, definitely bad game design when it incentivizes useless actions in online play.
 

AceDiamond

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wordsmith said:
Nah, the main ***** about achieves is actually achieve whores. That bastard who jumps into the chopper and spends the whole match flying it into the corner of the skybox, away from the action, just so he can get a pilot achieve.
Yeah that's my annoyance as well. Like in Halo 3 where everyone was like "durs ok I want to get these achievements this playthrough so let's all make nice."

Meanwhile I spent my time actually working at running over idiots with the Mongoose. It's not that hard, geez.
 

[Gavo]

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Some achievements suck. (Halo 3) Get 10 kills w/ Energy Sword or some crap like that.

Achievements that teach you how to play the game, on the other hand, are pretty cool (L4D has a few like that. Brain Salad!)
 

Bling Cat

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cuddly_tomato said:
SecretTacoNinja said:
Oh and why are we trolls for complaining? I don't get that either.
Pepole are trolling when they go about posting in someone elses thread just to comment that they don't like the thread. It is pretty rude and isn't necessary on a forum. If a thread doesn't interest you, just click back and read another. That is the entire point of forums.

@Op - I can't stand the achievement thingies. I hate doing a quest or soemthing and then getting that retarded pop-up super-imposed on my screen. If I could I would turn them off.
Look closely. This thread started off with no text, so people are fully eligible to complain about it.
 

cuddly_tomato

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Bling Cat said:
cuddly_tomato said:
SecretTacoNinja said:
Oh and why are we trolls for complaining? I don't get that either.
Pepole are trolling when they go about posting in someone elses thread just to comment that they don't like the thread. It is pretty rude and isn't necessary on a forum. If a thread doesn't interest you, just click back and read another. That is the entire point of forums.

@Op - I can't stand the achievement thingies. I hate doing a quest or soemthing and then getting that retarded pop-up super-imposed on my screen. If I could I would turn them off.
Look closely. This thread started off with no text, so people are fully eligible to complain about it.
Which the op corrected and then apologised for.

Why do people seem to loose all they learned about manners and social ettiquette the instant their hands come into contact with mouse and keyboard?
 

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BallPtPenTheif said:
Yeah, definitely bad game design when it incentivizes useless actions in online play.
If you look REALLY closely at my scenario, you'll see that it's NOT incentivising, the achieve is meant to go to skillful pilots that can do serious damage and not get shot down in the 15 minutes. What makes it whoring is when people gain the achieve via being a good pilot (not being shot down) but not in the way that the devs wanted. It's sort of like the "50 headshots with a pistol" being achieved by shooting your teammates in the back of the head :( You still have said headshots, but the idea was to get good enough at popping the enemy with a pistol, not that you spend the game being american a friendly firing person.
 

Bling Cat

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cuddly_tomato said:
Bling Cat said:
Look closely. This thread started off with no text, so people are fully eligible to complain about it.
Which the op corrected and then apologised for.

Why do people seem to loose all they learned about manners and social ettiquette the instant their hands come into contact with mouse and keyboard?
Yes, but they posted before he corrected it.

On the subject of everyone being dicks on the internet, I think thats more to do with anononymity than anything else. No repercussions, and it's much easier to be nasty to words on a screen than real people.
 

BallPtPenTheif

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wordsmith said:
BallPtPenTheif said:
Yeah, definitely bad game design when it incentivizes useless actions in online play.
If you look REALLY closely at my scenario, you'll see that it's NOT incentivising, the achieve is meant to go to skillful pilots that can do serious damage and not get shot down in the 15 minutes. What makes it whoring is when people gain the achieve via being a good pilot (not being shot down) but not in the way that the devs wanted. It's sort of like the "50 headshots with a pistol" being achieved by shooting your teammates in the back of the head :( You still have said headshots, but the idea was to get good enough at popping the enemy with a pistol, not that you spend the game being american a friendly firing person.
It literally incentivizes people to be in the air for a given amount of time. Given the lack of qualifying productive conditions for that achievement people will do exactly that to unlock it. It's bad game design especially since the developers know that achievement whores exist.

If you made an achievement that required 1,000,000 bullets fired then you have a created a game where people will login just to unload full clips of bullets into the air.
 

OverlordSteve

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[Gavo said:
]Some achievements suck. (Halo 3) Get 10 kills w/ Energy Sword or some crap like that.

Achievements that teach you how to play the game, on the other hand, are pretty cool (L4D has a few like that. Brain Salad!)
And then it has some bad ones, Man vs Tank, anyone? That'l mess up a few games.