Achievements: What is our intrest in them?
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I only really liked the battles in Pokemon - hunting down every individual little monster just seemed like too much of a hassle. Plus all the effort of actually finding a friend who will trade this for that for all the ones your version can't get.Michael_McCloud said:
But yea i can see your point about the human psyche
I quite like them for the reason of going I did this so in your face. Where as previous generations it was much harder to show off you gaming powers in a simple way. Everyone loves boosting their own ego.
I'm highly drawn to the challenge of them, granted I only pursue the ones that go along with the game play I avoid the item collection achievements like a plague.
Achievements can be good or terrible depending on the game. I enjoy getting them for a variety of reasons. The sound they make whenever you get one is always nice to hear. Getting 1000 in a game (or collecting all the trophies if you are a Sony owner) feels good if they aren't all "way to beat the story" and offer some sort of odd challenge (other than collecting crap). That and some can make a player try something they normally wouldn't.
As much as I do enjoy them there is a fly in the ointment. MP achievements are killing online play. I don't want to go online and grind with a bunch of strangers while we take turns getting headshots on each other. I shouldn't face getting booted because I want to play and not grind.
As much as I do enjoy them there is a fly in the ointment. MP achievements are killing online play. I don't want to go online and grind with a bunch of strangers while we take turns getting headshots on each other. I shouldn't face getting booted because I want to play and not grind.
If I buy a game, I usually play it through without thinking much of the achievements. This is because they usually have spoilers in them. Darn spoilers. After I've completed the game (or just don't care anymore) I check the list to see what I have not gotten yet, and try to get them. It lenghtens the game's life time and adds extra enjoyment and fun. They are rewards for doing things. I like rewards.
It's like with pokemans and such. Gotta get 'em all!
It's like with pokemans and such. Gotta get 'em all!
yup..my thoughts exactly. I find them hollow and a shallow means of satisfaction and a cheap way to hook gamers. I do enjoy achievements that actually reward you with something like extra levels or gear.Tenmar said:
This whole gamer score bullshit leaves me perplexed as to why people are almost duped into such shallow forms of reward. My "achievements" come from the satisfaction of completing a task or the game and being able to progress with better challenges ahead. Playing the game should give you the greatest sense of achievement, not some meaningless score. All I need is to be satisfied that I finally beat that boss, or completed this hard ass stage, ect.. I don't need some stupid little box telling me this.
1) The acheavments are there
2) It can really showcase what you have done I.E. killed a boss with nothing but headshots
3) It gives you a number on what you have done. EVERYONE LOVES NUMBERS!!!!
4) It also lets you prove that you did that to anyone that bothers to look at it.
2) It can really showcase what you have done I.E. killed a boss with nothing but headshots
3) It gives you a number on what you have done. EVERYONE LOVES NUMBERS!!!!
4) It also lets you prove that you did that to anyone that bothers to look at it.
The multiplayer ones are the ones that really bug me since you have to aim to get them game after game and people aren't exactly willing to let you get a two for one by killing them. I mean be the number 1 player and win # of matches is fine. But the ones like "hit 4 people online with a sniper bullet" can just go to hell.squid5580 said:
Although i still look at those ones with envy...
Arbitrarily increase play time.
I'd feel terrible saying I had a 100% complete game and I was missing some achievements. It depends on what it is. I usually have my own personal achievements in games anyway (beat UT with nothing but the impact hammer, stuff like that).
I really hate achievements, and I've said it all before somewhere, but it doesn't matter really.
It's been around in old games. Can you get "S RANK" ? Can you get the "GOLD MEDAL" ? etc, etc.
Just most of those involve, you know, getting points, or kills, or something. Some achievements are just pointless, and it's like "if you buy more of our games, you have a bigger gamerscore. if you spend more time with this game, you have a bigger gamerscore. (KILL X AMOUNT OF ENEMIES, WIN X AMOUNT OF DEATHMATCHES, etc). Skill isn't even what matters with it, so...I don't really get the point. It means nothing.
Some of them do involve skill, some of them don't, and, meh. I guess it all depends on the person. Some people just love having the game remind them that they're great. Usually I just know that. (ie: I don't need a little box to come up when I full-combo a song, the score is there, the 5 stars flashing with the shit around it is there, that's fine right there, and hell, I'll remember, won't I?)
Comes down to what other people said:
Carrot on a Stick.
100% fetish (which I have)
Keeping the game interesting (sometimes)
Completing sets.
I'd feel terrible saying I had a 100% complete game and I was missing some achievements. It depends on what it is. I usually have my own personal achievements in games anyway (beat UT with nothing but the impact hammer, stuff like that).
I really hate achievements, and I've said it all before somewhere, but it doesn't matter really.
It's been around in old games. Can you get "S RANK" ? Can you get the "GOLD MEDAL" ? etc, etc.
Just most of those involve, you know, getting points, or kills, or something. Some achievements are just pointless, and it's like "if you buy more of our games, you have a bigger gamerscore. if you spend more time with this game, you have a bigger gamerscore. (KILL X AMOUNT OF ENEMIES, WIN X AMOUNT OF DEATHMATCHES, etc). Skill isn't even what matters with it, so...I don't really get the point. It means nothing.
Some of them do involve skill, some of them don't, and, meh. I guess it all depends on the person. Some people just love having the game remind them that they're great. Usually I just know that. (ie: I don't need a little box to come up when I full-combo a song, the score is there, the 5 stars flashing with the shit around it is there, that's fine right there, and hell, I'll remember, won't I?)
Comes down to what other people said:
Carrot on a Stick.
100% fetish (which I have)
Keeping the game interesting (sometimes)
Completing sets.
To me, they're accomplishment markers. I start playing a game because I enjoy it (and put it down immediately if I don't), but once it starts I want to accomplish everything possible. While it's partly so I can talk to someone else, point to my score and say "I got 1000/1000 on Call of Duty 4" but mostly to my own feelings of accomplishment and completion. Any game with a completion percentage has the same effect on me (although admittingly not as much). It appeals to my perfectionistic sense, I know this but don't care because most of the time, it doesn't become an issue.
However, it causes an issue in multiplayer achievements, as Kukakkau has already described:
It comes down to this: I think everyone should be able to get every achievement if they're willing to try hard enough and devote a reasonable amount of time.
However, it causes an issue in multiplayer achievements, as Kukakkau has already described:
And I agree. I liked Gears of War's "Get 100 online kills with X weapon" because it didn't break gameplay, you just used a different weapon than you might have and it forced you to try something NEW. Although I do make a distinction on one point: a "Be MVP of a match" achievement is fair, but an achievement like G.R.A.W.'s "Be #1 on worldwide leaderboard" is just flat-out impossible for more than 2% of the population to achieve.Kukakkau said:
It comes down to this: I think everyone should be able to get every achievement if they're willing to try hard enough and devote a reasonable amount of time.
That^Aardvark said:
Also remember when
or if, I don't know you
There is a few games that do reward you for getting certain achs. Mass Effect had some in game rewards for getting achs. I have gotten a few gamerpics for getting certain achs. And I am sure in the future there will be avatar clothes for getting certain achs.