ACTA Vs Anonymous

[Mrsoupcup]

As many of you have heard from the previous threads on ACTA, ACTA is short for the "Anti-Counterfeiting Trade Agreement" which seems more like a carefully put together plans to censor the internet. D:

Corporations like Comcast and The Church of Scientology (Actually not kidding) have come together with several governments to form this treaty. So far it's all been kept secret, but the countries apparently signing it are: USA, Canada, UK, Australia (Not surprised) and several other much smaller European countries.

This is the leaked info in PDF format: http://www.laquadrature.net/files/ACTA_consolidatedtext_EUrestricted130710.pdf

So what now? Well the well known internet group called "Anonymous" has taken up the cause to fight ACTA, and is gathering its number as I type this. Many of you may be aware of the other famous Anonymous raids, like "Chanology" which was Anonymous attacking the Church of Scientology.

Spoiler: That mess started when The Church tried to have this video posted by Anonymous censored:

Shortly after, Anonymous gave its response:

Spoiler: Other less famous Anonymous raids

The great Habbo raid of 2008: This was more because of 4chan, but still:


Finally the great youtube raid:

Most of the above wasn't even all that serious, nor did Anonymous ever actually feel threatened. Untill, now that is. Yes, the above raids were done by smaller portions of Anonymous, but it seem as an act of self preservation the whole of Anonymous is grouping to stop ACTA and Global Web Censorship.

Here is the "official video":


Honestly, I feel kinda glad Anonymous is taking some action. Because of the major Corporations, they have made it so ACTA doesn't make it to mainstream media...

Spoiler: For those still worried, it only took a single Anon to do this:

So what does The Escapist think about this?

Also what does The Escapist think about Anonymous?

 

[tomtom94]

Oh great, Anonymous are convincing the mainstream corporations even further that the internet cannot be trusted.

 

[Canadamus Prime]

I'm worried that this might actually backfire.

 

[Axolotl]

I don't know who'd win but the consumer will lose.

 

[AndyFromMonday]

You know how riots start? They tend to begin when small groups of protesters become violent and start attacking the police, enforcers of laws passed by the government. Usually, if enough people believe in the cause a domino effect starts. Case and point:

 

[Mrsoupcup]

I really do not like anonymous but I suppose they are the lesser of two evils.

My thoughts exactly.

 

[tomtom94]

You know how riots start? They tend to begin when small groups of protesters become violent and start attacking the police, enforcers of laws passed by the government. Usually, if enough people believe in the cause a domino effect starts. Case and point:

Shame in this case the majority is overwhelmingly willing to accept the high prices and wallet-raping.

We need Rage Against The Machine back.

I don't know who'd win but the consumer will lose.

Inevitably. This is capitalism after all.

 

[The Procrastinated End]

Huh I was waiting for the response to the ACTA. Now I just have to wait to see how Anonymous goes through with it.

 

[Last Bullet]

Anonymous again, huh? Don't exactly approve of their... humor, but I really dislike Scientology. And this whole ACTA thing. The enemy of my enemy is my friend? Especially if my enemy wants to screw over the internet. I'm really curious what the masses, and eventually Anonymous, is going to do.

 

[Mrsoupcup]

You got to admit though.
ACTA are in the right....and I hate that.

I don't think ACTA is, not at all. They're sidesteping so many privacy laws with this treaty it's not even funny.

 

[Mrsoupcup]

Oh yeah, I forgot.
I was thinking of copyright law.

They bassically have the right if this passes to search your computer randomly without you knowing for "harmful content". If deemed "harmful" or copyrighted, you could face jail time without a trail... Assuming this wont be abused would just be wishful thinking.

 

[Yagharek]

Edit: Reply to a post now editted...

 

[Sir_Tor]

Oh great, Anonymous are convincing the mainstream corporations even further that the internet cannot be trusted.

You expect anon to curl up and cry in a corner against a threat that might destroy them?

OT: Hopefully this ACTA thing will fail

 

[AndyFromMonday]

Shame in this case the majority is overwhelmingly willing to accept the high prices and wallet-raping.

You can't really blame them. People no longer posses the same fiery will of old. They've become docile animals willing to do and accept anything as long as they survive. Protests will never work unless they turn violent and threaten the ruling establishment. If they DO get violent then you'd need state-wide or even nation-wide riots in order to get the voice of the people heard. EVEN IF it ends up in one entire blood mess you'd still have the risk of those riots being put down by the hand of the government, the "law enforcements". Once that happens the government will have unlimited power due to having suppressed the same people they were supposed to serve. EVEN IF YOU MANAGE to overthrow the government as a people and overrule anything that you, as a people, consider might hurt your well being you'd still have the risk of the same people that ruled you before get back into power again.

I'll use the Romanian Revolution as an example. The bad economic outlook of the 1980's coupled with massive censorship and a general disatisfaction with the then ruling authority of Romania, the Communist Party of Romania forced the people to take drastic measures. It all started with a protest in Brasov and it ended with the execution if the man then thought responsible for the widespread poverty, Nicolae Ceausescu. Finally, you'd think, the Romanian people had control over their own wills. Unfortunately, the very people that the revolution sought to overthrow retook power under the guise of democracy.

A more complete history of the revolution is available here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romanian_Revolution

 

[Naheal]

Oh great, Anonymous are convincing the mainstream corporations even further that the internet cannot be trusted.

I pray that Anon does follow through, though. Might actually work for the best.

 

[Macgyvercas]

I'm probably going to lose whatever soul I have left by saying this, but...

I'm siding with Anonymous on this one. I hate censorship in any form, and if they are fighting the ACTA, I'm behind them. "The enemy of my enemy is my friend" seems to be the wisest advice to follow at the current time. Of course, one would argue the wisdom of siding with Anonymous...But I really do hate censorship and the fact that the ACTA would allow governments to search my computer without my permission.

That's unconstitutional.

Spoiler: 4th Amendment

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

 

[Doclector]

I really do not like anonymous but I suppose they are the lesser of two evils.

My thoughts exactly.

Me three, I guess. I hate 4chan, but when something goes wrong to do with the internet, they are there, making more of a mess for it's attackers than you'd expect effectively a bunch of mismatched internet rebels would.

Y'know, this is a great time for the internet to unite. All factions, all sites, n00bs and elitists, trolls and mods, people who like youtube poop and those that do not, standing together against a common enemy.

...

Nah, it'll never happen.