That's...harsh.Gorumgol said:
I'm not gonna disagree though, I definitely believe it exists. I do however think that the phrase is overused to a point where people start to think it's just some bullshit (like OP here).
ADHA - Real or just an excuse?
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I'm not gonna disagree though, I definitely believe it exists. I do however think that the phrase is overused to a point where people start to think it's just some bullshit (like OP here).
I think that it's real but most people diagnosed with it don't really have it, I myself have been diagnosed with it but I think that I just have a combination of being lazy and uninterested.
Trust me, it exists, for many years I had it and still do but I'm able to suppress it now.LittleWench1629 said:
This thread infuriates me. You wouldn't tell a paraplegic that he's making excuses and shove him off his wheelchair, yet you deny the existence of a well known learning disability and act as if kids with the disability are faking it.
I had ADHD. It's real.
As for your brother, your mom shouldn't be making excuses for him, she needs to get him medication. That's all.
I had ADHD. It's real.
As for your brother, your mom shouldn't be making excuses for him, she needs to get him medication. That's all.
katsumoto03 said:
experience doing what?because unless you are a professional, your experience isnt worth shit, no offence.
ummm...i always thought i was likely add, but never bothered to get diagnosed because i could manage to some extent. i definatly have an attention deficit problem, if not disorder
See that's the problem Your little brother has American Dental Hygienist Association.LittleWench1629 said:
Though if he had ADD/ADHD I'd say that not only is this real and a difficult disorder to overcome, but with support and the proper treatment of medications and therapy he should be fine.
Your, incorrect; but no less valid theory that he is faking, stems from the tendency to diagnose to quickly in young children. While it is true that most children are hyperactive by there nature, there is a glaring difference, people suffering from this affliction will find the are physically unable to pay attention, or in the case of ADHD sit still and pay attention.
Your brother might be having a tough time dealing with it, so instead of accusations why not act like a good older brother and show the kid so understanding and kindness.
I see your "experience" and raise you "altered neurological response to chemical stimuli".katsumoto03 said:
That is to say, the standard drug family for treating ADHD is a relative of amphetamines. A person with normal neurological functions will end up bouncing off the walls after a dose. A legitimate case of ADHD will end up substantially calmer afterwords.
Now, is it over-diagnosed? Yeah, so's everything else. But the disorder does exist, whatever you may want to believe.
I never claimed to have working experience with them. I just end up listening to them ***** and whine.eljawa said:
Quoted for truth.baker80 said:
You people are not psychologists. I should know, I fucking study it. Ironically, it's the same problem that cause it to be overdiagnosed, because people think 'oh, Psychology, that's just common sense, right? I mean, we're all experts in Psychology'. People know a lot less about Psychology than they think they do.
It is most definitely real. Scroll down to 313.0x - ADHD is right there. [http://www.dsm5.org/ProposedRevisions/Pages/InfancyChildhoodAdolescence.aspx] Here's it in detail. [http://www.dsm5.org/ProposedRevisions/Pages/proposedrevision.aspx?rid=383]
One of my best friends had ADHD. He wasn't "Hyper"
What the symptoms showed up as extreme uncontrollable insomnia. Like 4 days at a time for no reason. He twitched a lot, vibrated, couldn't stop moving his hands ETC but that wasn't all it took to get a diagnosis, it was a serious issue taken up by a trained doctor. I myself have always got to be using my hands as I have a small form of Autism (Where else did I get the name, eh?) but they didn't diagnose that as ADD: they take in everything else and give an accuarate diagnosis based on what their educated minds believe and find most reasonable.
Is ADHD over diagnosed? Absolutely. Does it exist? Without a doubt. Is it an excuse? No. Do you think the kids that get prescriptions want to be taking what is essentially small doses of cocaine (Ritalin)?
They take it because they have to, it was prescribed to them by a doctor, and we SHOULD trust our doctors on this. If we left our health to the internet and naysayers, well...
If a doctor over diagnoses or misdiagnoses there is cause for a malpractice suit so it is in his best interest to diagnose accuarately and in this Lawsuit-Happy day and age sometimes the Better-Safe-Than-Sorry method does occur, but even then prescriptions and treatment would still be administered by a professional to the best of his abilities.
Don't deny treatment by professionals just because you don't believe it personally.
What the symptoms showed up as extreme uncontrollable insomnia. Like 4 days at a time for no reason. He twitched a lot, vibrated, couldn't stop moving his hands ETC but that wasn't all it took to get a diagnosis, it was a serious issue taken up by a trained doctor. I myself have always got to be using my hands as I have a small form of Autism (Where else did I get the name, eh?) but they didn't diagnose that as ADD: they take in everything else and give an accuarate diagnosis based on what their educated minds believe and find most reasonable.
Is ADHD over diagnosed? Absolutely. Does it exist? Without a doubt. Is it an excuse? No. Do you think the kids that get prescriptions want to be taking what is essentially small doses of cocaine (Ritalin)?
They take it because they have to, it was prescribed to them by a doctor, and we SHOULD trust our doctors on this. If we left our health to the internet and naysayers, well...
If a doctor over diagnoses or misdiagnoses there is cause for a malpractice suit so it is in his best interest to diagnose accuarately and in this Lawsuit-Happy day and age sometimes the Better-Safe-Than-Sorry method does occur, but even then prescriptions and treatment would still be administered by a professional to the best of his abilities.
Don't deny treatment by professionals just because you don't believe it personally.
Sort of a tricky subject. ADHD is very real, but the catch is that cases where parents harass a psychiatrist until he gives them the diagnosis also exist. I also suspect that some patients with certain disorders are automatically branded with ADHD.
That being said, a lot of my experience with people who claim it is over diagnosed is... unpleasant. Ignorance is not uncommon, with many of them not knowing the actual symptoms of the disorders they rally against. I have to keep reminding them that the reason ADHD and Asperger's Syndrome cases are appearing with increasing frequency is because WE ONLY RECENTLY MADE DIAGNOSIS GUIDELINES FOR THE FUCKING DISORDERS.
That being said, a lot of my experience with people who claim it is over diagnosed is... unpleasant. Ignorance is not uncommon, with many of them not knowing the actual symptoms of the disorders they rally against. I have to keep reminding them that the reason ADHD and Asperger's Syndrome cases are appearing with increasing frequency is because WE ONLY RECENTLY MADE DIAGNOSIS GUIDELINES FOR THE FUCKING DISORDERS.
I believe that ADHA (Or ADHD or ADD or whatever the hell they're calling it this week...) is a real condition, but also believe that it's extremely overdiagnosed and overblown. I think a toddler with a short attention span and a rebellious streak is completely normal, and not a cause for medication.
I also think a lot of people really milk disabilities these days. I present the following comic for your entertainment:
http://www.smbc-comics.com/index.php?db=comics&id=1762
These days, it really does seem that virtually every character flaw is becoming a medical condition.
I also think a lot of people really milk disabilities these days. I present the following comic for your entertainment:
http://www.smbc-comics.com/index.php?db=comics&id=1762
These days, it really does seem that virtually every character flaw is becoming a medical condition.
I heard somewhere that there was a study done that shows sugar doesn't actually cause people to get hyperactive. Can't remember where for the life of me.John the Gamer said:He just eats too much sugar. Psychic conditions like ADHD and Autism are real, but not everyone diagnosed as such actually has it. I've got this book with the characteristics of a person with Autism/ADHD/PDD-NOS/etc, but just about everyone has half or more of the points in that list. So everyone would we an Autist or ADHD-hypersmurf. Fuck psychic conditions. Let's all go crazy and be happy about it.
OT: I'm not one to say ADHD is a legitimate condition. I don't care how many government agencies says it is. I agree with several others on here that is comes off more as an excuse for kids misbehaving because parents are willing to discipline the little shits.
I've always thought of ADHD as an excuse for school systems to drug their most "misbehaived" students...
As a child, I was diagnosed with ADHD, and not by a doctor. But by the school's counseler. I wasn't even the craziest kid in my class. You know what the problem was? My parents weren't important enough for the teachers to deal with me. That's right, school systems discriminate against their kids. My mom never went to and PTA meetings, and she didn't have time to chaperone any field trips. The result was me being in the school's hands from 8:30 to 3:00...
I'm in high school now, and I'm doing fine. I never had ADHD, and I'm glad my mom never beleived a word of it and gave me prescribed drugs to "calm me down". I hate how parents are willingly giving their kids drugs just to shut them up. You're a parent, you're going to have to deal with your child, otherwise don't have one...
As a child, I was diagnosed with ADHD, and not by a doctor. But by the school's counseler. I wasn't even the craziest kid in my class. You know what the problem was? My parents weren't important enough for the teachers to deal with me. That's right, school systems discriminate against their kids. My mom never went to and PTA meetings, and she didn't have time to chaperone any field trips. The result was me being in the school's hands from 8:30 to 3:00...
I'm in high school now, and I'm doing fine. I never had ADHD, and I'm glad my mom never beleived a word of it and gave me prescribed drugs to "calm me down". I hate how parents are willingly giving their kids drugs just to shut them up. You're a parent, you're going to have to deal with your child, otherwise don't have one...