ADHA - Real or just an excuse?
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I bet 1 in every 10 kids that has been diagnosed with ADD or ADHD actually seriously need meds.
And personally, I think the same about autism. Sure, it exists and some people REALLY need help with social interaction, but isn't it funny how suddenly every other kid has autism? Yeah...
And personally, I think the same about autism. Sure, it exists and some people REALLY need help with social interaction, but isn't it funny how suddenly every other kid has autism? Yeah...
This is pretty much my opinion on the matter.Nalgas D. Lemur said:
It is over diagnosed however, vastly so. I remember seeing a Frontline documentary on the subject and I suggest everyone goes and finds/ watches that documentary if you have any questions about ADD / ADHD.
I know I was misdiagnosed with ADD when it was actually just a symptom of my Asperger's Syndrome.
Agree for the most part. Also about the social part of Autism (or high functioning autistic ie Asperger's Syndrome) Basically I have to agree as I have it, and while I did have quite a hard time adjusting and adapting to social situations I did eventually get the hang of it. It took me until my mid-20's till I started socializing in what I would consider normal means. It doesn't quite happen the way they show it on TV (for instance the Big Bang Theory)Cursed Frogurt said:
My bet is around 10%. I know about 10 people who were diagnosed, and only one of them has anything resembling a problem, and even he could deal with it sans medication if given proper motivation.Merkavar said:
It's quite real, which is why medications which stimulate a specific area of the brain can calm them down, but whether it's diagnosed properly or whether the medications will work is another question.LittleWench1629 said:
Psychiatry is a relatively new science, medications will work on some people that won't work on others, and we can't always accurately predict the results, but they do work and can help.
Doctors who say it doesn't exist aren't Pscyhologists, and Psychologists who claim it doesn't exist are ignoring all the medical research and data which says otherwise.
Edit: Also, to make very clear, it's a biological ailment. It's got nothing to do with the way you were brought up and everything to do with how your brain naturally functions. It usually manifests itself around puberty because the way your brain behaves is changing.
Yeah, it really is frustrating when trying to do stuff like that. It's debatable whether or not I have "true" ADD, because while I had minor issues with it as a kid, it didn't get to be a major problem until later on after a head injury. If it walks like a duck and responds to treatment like a duck, that's good enough for my doctor to call it a duck, though.arragonder said:
It did have to go completely untreated for a while, because seizures were another fun thing I acquired by hitting my head, and stims have an annoying tendency to make those worse if they're not under control first, so I know all about trying to get work done when your brain decides to get up and wander off instead. I've finally got it mostly sorted out, and I actually managed to read a book this weekend for a change. Like, in two days, a few hours at a time, instead of in 15-20 minute chunks. I'd almost forgotten what that's like. Kind of neat to stay focused through an entire chapter instead of getting sidetracked halfway through a paragraph and forgetting how it started before reaching the end.
Yeah it's over diagnosed, but that doesn't mean there aren't people genuinely afflicted with it.
I have no fucking clue what ADHA is but...LittleWench1629 said:
I have ADD.
My mother had ADHD.
My brother has mild autism.
My cousin has aspbergers.
It's real, I know, because I have it and I know people who have similiar problems.
I don't doubt that there are cases where the kid doesn't actually have any problems that can be classified as ADHD or such, but saying that it isn't real at all because of it is powerful stupid.
Let me explain to you how ADD has affected me and my life:
1. Terrible short-time memory. This is pretty self explanatory, I have an awful short time memory, I can forget things in a flash, I have to recheck things constantly because I forget and it has really affected me, especially in school, particuarly in math where I have to remember all the different rules and ways to count things. This is a real problem that I have to live with everyday. Know those annoying instances where you go into a room and forgot why you went there? Yeah, that happens almost everyday for me.
2. Short attention span. I have issues with focusing, for example I can't write and listen to someone talk at the same time, if I try to it all just becomes a mess in my head and I forget what I heard and what I was going to write. It takes me tons more energy to focus for longer periods of time, and because of this my energy is drained very quickly and I very easily get tired. This I take medicine for, and while it helps, the problem doesn't just go away. It makes it easier for me to focus, but I still easily lose focus and this is a nightmare when it comes to listening excerises in school.
3. Issues seeing the whole picture. I very easily misunderstand or misread things, written things especially since I can't hear your tone of voice or body language, and instructions can sometimes be difficult to understand. I easily pick up on and focus on smaller details, but that only intensifies this problem.
Because of these, which are the most major issues for me, I thought I was stupid for three years when I was in grade school. Imagine going three fucking years, trying and trying and trying to do your best in school, but it all just falls apart over and over. It wasn't until the month I started high school that I got my diagnose - and now my life is tremedously improved. I can get the help I need, and things are going so, so much better now.
tl;dr: Read it all and you'll maybe understand this. But in short, ADHD and ADD are real.
It's real. My dad has it and you don't want to be around him when he's forgotten to take his meds.LittleWench1629 said:
good on you mate for speaking your mind, i was diagnosed with add and aspergers at the age of 7 and then at 17 a mild form of both insomnia and bi-polar. this thread is sickening and should be taken down purely because of all of the hateful comments from uninformed people out thereGeekmaster said:
OP: Has he been been diagnosed with ADHD? If not, you do not and should not have to put up with that garbage. That said, ADD and it's variants definitely do exist - and they are diagnosed by psychologists. I should know - my Mom's a SNTA in a school full of messed up kids.
Very classy. Mod - It might be a good idea to lock the thread to prevent additional drama.Gorumgol said:
Does it exist or doesn't it?
Well, it's pretty simple really: I don't have cancer, so I could say I don't believe cancer is real.
Which I don't say, because I'm smarter than that. It's pretty easy to judge others based on our own experience and feelings rather than trying to put ourselves in their place.
For the record, my son was diagnosed with ADHD at the early age of two, and I honestly don't believe he was making any excuses back then... Nor do I believe he faked that seizure which drew our attention to the problem. And I could be in denial, but I don't believe it was my bad parenting that drove him to that either.
EDITed for the sake of clarity.
Well, it's pretty simple really: I don't have cancer, so I could say I don't believe cancer is real.
Which I don't say, because I'm smarter than that. It's pretty easy to judge others based on our own experience and feelings rather than trying to put ourselves in their place.
For the record, my son was diagnosed with ADHD at the early age of two, and I honestly don't believe he was making any excuses back then... Nor do I believe he faked that seizure which drew our attention to the problem. And I could be in denial, but I don't believe it was my bad parenting that drove him to that either.
EDITed for the sake of clarity.
I'd go read some medical articles on the subject before you assume a illness isn't real. Over-diagnosis isn't synonymous with fiction. The evidence supporting it is undeniably vast and further validated by repeated trials by qualified psychological practitioners. The flu is highly over-diagnosed given it is the more likely of potential causes for headaches, aching limbs, and fatigue, but it could non the less still be meningitis. This doesn't mean that the flu isn't real.
Aderall however is fantastic for intense study, it's questionably ethical since it gives you an unfair edge when you don't suffer from ADD or ADHD, but it can't be denied, Aderall makes long pre-exam study binges so much easier to dedicate yourself too.
Aderall however is fantastic for intense study, it's questionably ethical since it gives you an unfair edge when you don't suffer from ADD or ADHD, but it can't be denied, Aderall makes long pre-exam study binges so much easier to dedicate yourself too.
Actually, stimulants do affect people without an ADHD diagnosis the same way they effect other people. A difference in our neural functioning doesn't magically change the way our bodies interact with stimulants like methylphenidate and amphetamine salts. A look at the control group in this study: Effect of Methylphenidate on Executive Functioning in Adults with Attention-Deficit/Hyperactivity Disorder: Normalization of Behavior but Not Related Brain ActivityCowabungaa said:
As well as several others will show the increased neural activation for normal patients on stimulants. The difference is that people with ADHD often need stimulants to function on a "normal" level while people who do not have a real need for them can also use them to get high or to get an edge.
Have you looked for scientific evidence that discusses sugar's interaction with stimulants? Because stimulants DO affect the brain and they seem to be playing a large role in this case.Stasisesque said:
I don't know if this has been said yet, as I haven't read all of the posts, but ADHD (attention Deficit Hyper activity disorder) is real. Mom mom is a psychologist ( has a doctorate in psychology) and has seen people who really have ADHD.
Though while ADHD is a real disease/disorder it is vastly over-diagnosed. so the OP's brother may be genuinely ADHD, or he may have been misdiagnosed and is just a brat.
Though while ADHD is a real disease/disorder it is vastly over-diagnosed. so the OP's brother may be genuinely ADHD, or he may have been misdiagnosed and is just a brat.