ADHA - Real or just an excuse?

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LittleWench1629

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My younger brother has ?ADHD? I personally think that this is just and excuse my mum uses when he is out of control. He can get what he wants and act how he wants no matter what she or anybody says. (I have some pretty mind-boggling stories about his ridiculous behaviour if anyone?s interested.) I?ve spoken to several people about ADHD, including Doctors who don?t believe it exists.
So I was wondering what you guys think. I?d love to hear your thoughts on this and any experiences you may have had.
 

katsumoto03

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I've found that there are almost no real cases of ADD or ADHD (not sure what ADHA is...) in the world. Most of the claims are bullshit, either students choking out an excuse for their laziness or parents looking to excuse their shitty parenting.
 

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I genuinely have no idea what "ADHA" is supposed to stand for if it's not a typo, but it looks like at least a few other people on the Internets use that abbreviation. I remember back in the day when it was just ADD, before they got into all these other wacky variations on the name like ADHD.

Anyway, yes, it does definitely exist. There have been studies done showing different brain activity patterns on fMRIs between "normal" people and people with ADD, and similar differences in their response to things like stimulants. Depending on how bad it is, it can really be a pain in the ass when trying to get things done.

That said, it's been overdiagnosed/overmedicated at times, and using it as an excuse for being a dick is pretty lame and makes it harder for the people who have a legitimate problem to be taken seriously.
 

Cowabungaa

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Over-diagnosed? Sure. Real? You bet your ass. It's a recognised brain defect.
katsumoto03 said:
I've found that there are almost no real cases of ADD or ADHD (not sure what ADHA is...) in the world. Most of the claims are bullshit, either students choking out an excuse for their laziness or parents looking to excuse their shitty parenting.
Source?
 

Stasisesque

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baker80 said:
So are we psychologists now or something? Just because some dumbfuck on the internet thinks ADHD doesn't exist doesn't mean that's true. And physicians aren't psychologists either, for that matter.
Only two years ago was ADHD reconsidered as a "valid" disorder in the UK, so it's no wonder many many people are hesitant to believe it exists.
 

Throwitawaynow

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[link]http://www.adha.org/[/link]

If your brother is a dentist, cut him some slack. They have the highest suicide rate of all professions.

Edit: Multi-pun, didn't even see it.
 

katsumoto03

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Cowabungaa said:
Over-diagnosed? Sure. Real? You bet your ass. It's a recognised brain defect.
katsumoto03 said:
I've found that there are almost no real cases of ADD or ADHD (not sure what ADHA is...) in the world. Most of the claims are bullshit, either students choking out an excuse for their laziness or parents looking to excuse their shitty parenting.
Source?
Experience.

I may come off rather strong, but I'm just so fucking fed up with how over-diagnosed these disorders are.
 

Elanthil01

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Oh, it exists alright. I am living proof. In 'real' cases, it is almost always an indicator of future mental illness, mainly Bipolar disorder.

Real ADD/ADHD is actually a control and cognitive disorder characterized by borderline mania, but since kids are ALL generally a bit on the manic side, we tend to let that aspect of the disorder slide and focus on the inability to concentrate, focus and sit still.

My personal belief is that ADD/ADHD, and yes, even Bipolar disorder have become catch all excuses for pigeonholing anyone who 'just doesn't quite fit in', but there are definately real cases out there.

A recent explanation for the rash outbreaks of these three disorder categories points to the poor diet, excess of chemical exposure, lack of social interaction and excercise, and degrading social mores in civilized nations, where the conditions are FAR more prevalent than in third world countries. This makes perfect sense, given what we know about the effects of even common, seemingly innocuous chemicals, when applied in large doses over extended periods.

Not only was I treated for ADHD as a child, and later developed bipolar disorder (or had it all along and the criteria for diagnosing it as such merely hadn't been put in place yet), but both of my brothers were also so diagnosed and treated, and, from personal experience, I must say that the medications and psych-social therapies used improved our lots in life immensely..and my parents were definately not 'crappy parents'. They loved us dearly, were deeply invested in our daily lives, and enforced a fairly rigid moral code on us, but did so with patience and understanding.

In addition, adding to the evidence, particularly the evidence of a biological link, whether innate or due to chromosomal alteration by environmental exposure, my son was also diagnosed as borderline ADHD, with an additional diagnosis of mild aspergers (a form of autism), and believe me...he is everything they say he is, despite the lengths we have gone to as his parents to NOT let him fall into 'that category'.

No, my friends, these syndromes ARE quite real...they just are not as widespread as pop culture and assembly line medicine would have you believe.
 

Merkavar

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i think it does exist but i doubt even half the people who claim they have it actually do.

alot of the time it does just seem its a annoying idiot that is acting out and is given this label as an excuse.
 

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Stasisesque said:
Only two years ago was ADHD reconsidered as a "valid" disorder in the UK, so it's no wonder many many people are hesitant to believe it exists.
People also believe that vaccinations cause autism. Ignorance is no excuse for wanton stupidity.
 

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katsumoto03 said:
Cowabungaa said:
Over-diagnosed? Sure. Real? You bet your ass. It's a recognised brain defect.
katsumoto03 said:
I've found that there are almost no real cases of ADD or ADHD (not sure what ADHA is...) in the world. Most of the claims are bullshit, either students choking out an excuse for their laziness or parents looking to excuse their shitty parenting.
Source?

Experience.

I may come off rather strong, but I'm just so fucking fed up with how over-diagnosed these disorders are.
That is not a source. That is anecdotal evidence. BIG difference.
OP: It exists, but is over-diagnosed.
 

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I do believe some people have it, but has been incorrectly or over diagnosed. There are people who will try and use it as an excuse and the people who do suffer from it get tarred with the same brush and aren't taken seriously.
 

Stasisesque

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baker80 said:
Stasisesque said:
Only two years ago was ADHD reconsidered as a "valid" disorder in the UK, so it's no wonder many many people are hesitant to believe it exists.
People also believe that vaccinations cause autism. Ignorance is no excuse for wanton stupidity.
People believe what those in the medical profession tell them to believe. If you want to play the ignorance card, play it on the researchers who release these claims - not the general public, the vast majority of whom have no medical training.

The reason the MMR jab autism scandal came to light was because a highly respected medical research scientist stated there were links between the two. He was later (much later) revealed to have been fudging the results for financial gain.

ADHD/related disorders however, like all mental disorders will have their detractors. Diseases you can't see are much harder to trust in, and when you have those who are trained in this field telling you something does or does not exist, you are more likely to believe them. Very few people know someone suffering from ADHD, and as such have no immediate basis for comparison.
 

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katsumoto03 said:
Cowabungaa said:
Over-diagnosed? Sure. Real? You bet your ass. It's a recognised brain defect.
katsumoto03 said:
I've found that there are almost no real cases of ADD or ADHD (not sure what ADHA is...) in the world. Most of the claims are bullshit, either students choking out an excuse for their laziness or parents looking to excuse their shitty parenting.
Source?
Experience.

I may come off rather strong, but I'm just so fucking fed up with how over-diagnosed these disorders are.
That's your problem bolded right there. No doubt that it's overdiagnosed, but I doubt your experience encompasses the entire world. Experience is usually a really shitty thing to go on, considering the relatively small area we actually live most of our lives in.
 

LittleWench1629

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My mum and I were dropping him and his sister off to school one morning and we got there a little early. My mum got out and pulled her seat forward so my sister could get out. While she got her bag together, my brother tried to barge his way out. My mum stopped him and pushed him back into his seat and told him to wait. He was having no of it and continued to trying pushing his way out. When my sister was ready, she got out, had hugs and kisses from mum and went. As my brother leapt out of the car, my mum grabbed him and told him off. He couldn?t care less and kept kicking and slapping her. When he went, he ran after my sister, grabbed her by the neck with both hands and throttles her, swearing at her as he did. Needless to say, my sister came running back to the car crying.
This is one of many?
 

katsumoto03

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Cowabungaa said:
katsumoto03 said:
Cowabungaa said:
Over-diagnosed? Sure. Real? You bet your ass. It's a recognised brain defect.
katsumoto03 said:
I've found that there are almost no real cases of ADD or ADHD (not sure what ADHA is...) in the world. Most of the claims are bullshit, either students choking out an excuse for their laziness or parents looking to excuse their shitty parenting.
Source?
Experience.

I may come off rather strong, but I'm just so fucking fed up with how over-diagnosed these disorders are.
That's your problem bolded right there. No doubt that it's overdiagnosed, but I doubt your experience encompasses the entire world. Experience is usually a really shitty thing to go on, considering the relatively small area we actually live most of our lives in.
Oh noes, I used an exaggeration! So sorry to have offended!
 

Throwitawaynow

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Cowabungaa said:
katsumoto03 said:
Cowabungaa said:
Over-diagnosed? Sure. Real? You bet your ass. It's a recognised brain defect.
katsumoto03 said:
I've found that there are almost no real cases of ADD or ADHD (not sure what ADHA is...) in the world. Most of the claims are bullshit, either students choking out an excuse for their laziness or parents looking to excuse their shitty parenting.
Source?
Experience.

I may come off rather strong, but I'm just so fucking fed up with how over-diagnosed these disorders are.
That's your problem bolded right there. No doubt that it's overdiagnosed, but I doubt your experience encompasses the entire world. Experience is usually a really shitty thing to go on, considering the relatively small area we actually live most of our lives in.
They could have omnipresence, you don't know! You know what makes it even more suspect? Treatments work, and the same treatments give normal kids extra-motivation to do school work and study.