Advice to give to the younger members of society. The under 21s

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TheRightToArmBears said:
Lil devils x said:
TheRightToArmBears said:
Lil devils x said:
TheRightToArmBears said:
Have a shitload of fun and make (or kill with alcohol) memories. Honestly, if you don't get hammered and do a whole bunch of stuff you regret, you weren't a real teenager.

Lots of people are keen to point out that you shouldn't be too melodramatic and nothing that happens is all that serious- they're right, technically, but they're also a bit dull. Don't take it too seriously, but doing all the stupid stuff is what being a teenager is all about- think of it as a 'what not to do' for the rest of your life. Also it's kinda fun pretending you're in an episode of Skins. This includes stupid fashion choices (your future kids need to see the photos).

Honestly, I do talk to people who always wore sensible clothes, never drank too much and were probably virgins until at least 19. I guess there's nothing inherently wrong with that, but I do just wonder why the hell these people decided to spend the most carefree years of their life acting like they're thirty-fucking-five.
Probably due to shit like having a close group of 12 friends growing up, 7 of them didn't make it to 25. James was killed by driving stoned and hitting a guard rail, Tammi was killed by a drunk driver, Matt was killed while stoned crossing the street and getting hit by a van, Peter and David shot themselves, Bryan was shot by a gang, Cassie died of a drug Overdose... That was just out of my close group of friends, many more kids I went to school with died as well before reaching 25. It would be better if people were able to learn more from others mistakes rather than having to get killed trying to find out for themselves.

...Not to be insensitive, but I'm not sure I should have to specify that my idea of doing regrettable things involves still being alive afterwards to regret them. I'm not suggesting that gangland warfare is a fun pastime for teens.
Who was involved in gangland warfare? My friend shot by a gang was shot leaving work due to a gang initiation shooting. AT work, he asked a guy to leave the restaurant because he was threatening people and being verbally abusive. He was just doing his job. That guy he asked to leave was in a gang, and had new recruits that needed a target, when Bryan left work, they followed him and shot his car over 200 times on hwy 635.
Well, fair enough.

In that case though, why bring it up? It's irrelevant to the subject.
It isn't irrelevant. It was asked why some youth act as if they are 35, it very well may be they learned from the experiences of those around them that they shouldn't be too reckless so they could make it there. I simply listed why most of my close friends didn't make it to 25, he just happened to be one of them. What did I learn from what happened to him? Be very careful who you challenge, at work or otherwise, and honestly from what happened to him, it made me approach situations very different than I would have. When I was interning in the ER at Parkland, I thought about what happened to him often when dealing with gang members, violent prisoners and others I was forced to deal with on the job.

Many people walk around thinking they are 10ft tall and bulletproof. They start shit with people and want to prove how " tough" they are. They think they " can handle it." when the reality is there is always someone badder than they are, and they have no idea what people are actually capable of. People always seem to think " it won't happen to me." ...and those are exactly the type of people that it happens to.

Sure, we were all young and stupid.. made terrible choices and are lucky to be alive. Hopefully though we are smart enough to learn from the world around us and make proper adjustments to not repeat the same mistakes we have seen others make ourselves.
 

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No one cares what you did in high school. Unless you were the top athlete or did a ton of volunteering along with being valedictorian and are trying to leverage those to get into Harvard, no one cares so don't beat yourself up if you weren't the straight A student or Prom Queen.

Once you get into college or are working a job, nobody cares at all. Even people who hire you are more interested in your last job then anything else.
 

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1. find a degree that pays. Don't bother with crap that will get you nowhere. Honestly, IT is the shit and will be for a while now, so IT.

2. Take up a sport, your body is young and will adapt well to just about any amount of pressure. If you're fat and out of shape, tough break but you should still try. Athletic ability is really really good to have as a side skill.

3. If you feel lonely, then getting a partner may not help, some people are just loners even when surrounded by others. Point is, do not seek a relationship just because you feel bad and/or pressured and/or you see everyone else around you has one, because you don't know how other couples work their issues and chances are, if you rush it, it may end badly.

4. You should by now know your parents well to be able to deal with them. Parents will give you shit, there's no way to escape that, even the most loving and caring parents can be assholes. Ditto siblings.

5. In social situations, don't ever be an edgelord, an SJW, don't use words like "bae" or "waifu" ever, even ironically. It makes you look like a complete tool. It's good to be a little awkward, the real world is a place where not everything you say will be interpreted the way you wanted.


Lastly, for the love of god, don't fall into this "follow your dreams, don't care what everyone thinks" facebook bullshit. You should care what people around you think because you will interact with them
 

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Hmmm, I'm not too keen on giving advice to "young people" because a) they're already getting advice every day from everyone, often contradicting advice they received elsewhere, and b) I'm only 26, so I haven't exactly had a long enough life to really examine what I did right and wrong.

I will say that growing up, it seems more and more that young people are given the impression that they don't have time to just sit and think about what they want out of life. That's a huge load of crap, and a real shame, because so few are really able to make that call when they're 18 or 22 or whatever. If you don't know what it is you want to do, don't just go to college and hope it works out; take some time, learn how to take care of yourself, and explore some things you think might satisfy you. Don't do nothing; use your time to really think about yourself and what you want.
 

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-You will often find older people telling you how stupid they were when they were young, how stupid young people are, and, by implication, how stupid you are. The trouble that punching them lands you in is rarely worth it, but the satisfaction is immense. Do it when you must, but do it sparingly.

-Never say anything about someone behind their back that you wouldn't say to their face. This will either make you more honest or make you more brave (and then more honest).

-Learn to masturbate, and masturbate well. This isn't the flippancy it looks like at first glance. Sexuality is an enormous part of the human experience, and being able to take care of your own sexual needs will all but remove one of the biggest pushes to get into (or stay in) unpleasant relationships. If you plan on having sex with other people, learn to do it without mechanical assistance- human body parts have limits that machines don't. Let them supplement your own efforts, you'll probably be okay. Let them supplant them, you're asking for trouble.

-A nice mug of hot cocoa will do more good for your psyche than a bottle of whiskey.

-When the time comes to put away your childish things, remember where you put them.

-Finally, as whoever the not-Vonnegut was who said it, wear sunscreen.
 

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1) Remember that respect is earned - If you want people to respect you, it's up to you to give them a reason to do so. No one owes you anything.

2) Treat people the way you wanted to be treated - Sort of goes hand in hand with 1)

3) Don't follow the herd - To quote Tommy Lee Jones in Men in Black: "A person is smart. People are dumb, panicky dangerous animals and you know it."

4) Nothing worth doing is ever easy - Don't quit just because something becomes challenging. If it's something you want to do, make the effort.

5) Keep and open mind - Inspiration, wisdom and knowledge can come from surprising places. But you have to be receptive.

Lastly...

6) Don't shy away from new opportunities or experiences and don't live in your regrets.
 

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Start a savings account early, even if you only put 10 pounds in a week, or month even.
 

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Lufia Erim said:
Baffle said:
I recommend 'Don't be a dick, dick.'

Also: Don't only do things you're good at.
I would suggest the opposite. Be a dick, and stand up for yourself. That way, no one tries to push you around and know where you stand. I'm a massive asshole and I'm as blunt and to the point as i can be. People appreciate that more that you think. As long it is true. Call a spade a spade and you will get more respect.

Also don't argue with everyone. Even though you are right choose your battle. Either that or learn how to debate properly. But not ever my battle is worth fighting.
I'd shoot somewhere in the middle. Stand up for yourself, but don't put people off if you can avoid it. Be assertive, not aggressive. Most of the time, you can be pretty pleasant without being dishonest.
 

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Zen Bard said:
1) Remember that respect is earned - If you want people to respect you, it's up to you to give them a reason to do so. No one owes you anything.

2) Treat people the way you wanted to be treated - Sort of goes hand in hand with 1)

3) Don't follow the herd - To quote Tommy Lee Jones in Men in Black: "A person is smart. People are dumb, panicky dangerous animals and you know it."

4) Nothing worth doing is ever easy - Don't quit just because something becomes challenging. If it's something you want to do, make the effort.

5) Keep and open mind - Inspiration, wisdom and knowledge can come from surprising places. But you have to be receptive.

Lastly...

6) Don't shy away from new opportunities or experiences and don't live in your regrets.
Also, as an add-on for #3, don't avoid the herd either. The herd should have no bearing on what you choose to do. Don't suddenly stop wearing black just because black has become popular.
 

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1) Pushing your ideas on someone who hates you is a lot harder than slipping your ideas to someone who respects you. Try and get on someone's good side before you attempt to influence them.

2) If you want someone to respect you, don't push your ideas on them. Speak to them as equals with all your uncertainties laid bare. Don't lecture them. Basically, don't do what I'm doing in this post.
 

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Don't beleive anything these old geezers tell you. They don't know shit about ass half the time, and during the other half someone at the elderly home let them use a computer by mistake.
 

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Only thing I'd add to what's already been said is "Remember that life is a marathon, not a sprint!" - I've seen a large number of young graduates (I used to deliver training courses to graduates) that think that they're so monumentally awesome that they should automatically be able to walk into a CEO position of a fortune 500 company by the age of 30, otherwise they're a failure. This is not a healthy or realistic attitude!

John Glenn went back into space at age 77, PG Wodehouse was knighted whilst working on his 97th novel at age 93, Marc Chagall became the first living artist to be exhibited at the Louvre at age 90, Michaelangelo created the architectural plans for the Church of Santa Maria degli Angeli at age 88, Cornelius Veanderbilt started buying railroads at age 70 - there's plenty of time to get shit done guys, stop comparing yourself with Mark Zuckerberg. Get rich quick is the exception not the rule!
 

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Politics Advice
1) When discussing politics, if the answer seems simple, then you're probably missing the big picture.
2) When someone is discussing politics with you, if his narrative sounds like a narrative from a comic book, then he's probably missing the big picture.
 

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1) Expect everything to fall apart at a moments notice. Learn to roll with the punches.

2) Expect to be on jobseekers for a loooong time after school/university, because jobs are scarce, even jobs flipping burgers are hard to get. Start saving now, because daaaaaaamn your going to need it.

3) Expect to be insulted and belittled for being on job seekers by everyone. Including the employees at jobseekers. Learn to brush it off, because there aint a damn thing you can do to change their opinion.

4) If you get a job, do everything in your power to keep it. Because if you screw it up, its going to be alot more difficult to find a new one.

5) Unless you strike gold somehow, Dont expect to own your own place any time soon. Or at all.

6) Dont get into debt if you can help it.
 

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sageoftruth said:
Zen Bard said:
1) Remember that respect is earned - If you want people to respect you, it's up to you to give them a reason to do so. No one owes you anything.

2) Treat people the way you wanted to be treated - Sort of goes hand in hand with 1)

3) Don't follow the herd - To quote Tommy Lee Jones in Men in Black: "A person is smart. People are dumb, panicky dangerous animals and you know it."

4) Nothing worth doing is ever easy - Don't quit just because something becomes challenging. If it's something you want to do, make the effort.

5) Keep and open mind - Inspiration, wisdom and knowledge can come from surprising places. But you have to be receptive.

Lastly...

6) Don't shy away from new opportunities or experiences and don't live in your regrets.
Also, as an add-on for #3, don't avoid the herd either. The herd should have no bearing on what you choose to do. Don't suddenly stop wearing black just because black has become popular.
That is an excellent point! You are well named, sageoftruth.

I went to school with a girl who called herself an "anti-conformist". She went out of her way to NOT do what everyone else was doing.

She would constantly drone on about how hard it was to continually buck teenage trends. My comment to her was pretty much what you just said. "If avoiding the Joneses is as much effort as keeping up with the Joneses, and neither one lets you be true to yourself...what's the point?"

So maybe #3 should just be "Don't be afraid to do you own thing."
 

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Go to a tech school.

The very moment a significant other hits you? Bale. Bale the fuck out of there. If they're controlling or threaten suicide? Bale. Get the fuck out there. I am not joking. Every second you're with them will be in dark personal hell.
So much truth here it hurts. I know sooooo many guys who have fallen into this only to not realize just how abusive the relationship was till after they left. I even fell into this trap myself.
 

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aba1 said:
DudeistBelieve said:
Go to a tech school.

The very moment a significant other hits you? Bale. Bale the fuck out of there. If they're controlling or threaten suicide? Bale. Get the fuck out there. I am not joking. Every second you're with them will be in dark personal hell.
So much truth here it hurts. I know sooooo many guys who have fallen into this only to not realize just how abusive the relationship was till after they left. I even fell into this trap myself.
I think for certain guys theres this almost romantic notion of being needed. Of having to take care of someone who's deeply troubled or some shit. We use to see it a lot on TV when I was a kid.

but hey, learning experince. When you find that one who ISN'T like that, it's going to seem amazing. My last girlfriend, one day I had to cancel plans on her, and I was prepared for the tongue lashing/threats/self harm that my original ex had done. When she said "Okay, I understand. Don't worry about it." it was almost like... God damn. Like I was a Michael Vick shelter dog that finally had kindness for the first time.

Not that I want to pain the picture I was particularly a good person either. I was toxic as well in my own ways, but by the end of it I was so miserable and just wanted out.
 

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Treat yo self.

If you don't have to pay bills presently, take the time to buy shit that you want! It's much harder to do once you're paying a bunch of bills, trust me!
Obviously don't be irresponsible and don't spend money you don't have, but yeah, treat yo self.