After Batman vs. Superman Letdown, Warner Bros. Will Reportedly Release Fewer Films

[Samtemdo8_v1legacy]

Maybe they'll finally release something other than Batman for a change.

Well, based on their current output, Wonder Woman should be a good female Batman movie. So there's that.

Now I feel like crying. Because Batman is simultaneously the best and worst thing to happen to DC.

For the record, the 90s is the worst thing to ever happen to DC. Batman is just the best and worst thing to happen to DC movies.

The 90s can't be any worse then the 60s. I mean most of Silver Age DC was garbage.

Ill take goofy fun nonsense over tryhard grimderp edge any day of the week

Enjoy your stupidly OP Superman and childish plots than.

I will stick with my brilliantly written Kingdom Come thank you

 

[The Enquirer]

Maybe they'll finally release something other than Batman for a change.

Well, based on their current output, Wonder Woman should be a good female Batman movie. So there's that.

Now I feel like crying. Because Batman is simultaneously the best and worst thing to happen to DC.

For the record, the 90s is the worst thing to ever happen to DC. Batman is just the best and worst thing to happen to DC movies.

The 90s can't be any worse then the 60s. I mean most of Silver Age DC was garbage.

I'll take the campy, fun, 60's Batman over the super serious, grim, 90's Batman.

Plus as an offset to the 90's, Batman: The Animated Series came out and ran through a good portion of that. That version of Batman is actually probably my personal favorite, even including other versions of the character in the comics.

 

[Samtemdo8_v1legacy]

Maybe they'll finally release something other than Batman for a change.

Well, based on their current output, Wonder Woman should be a good female Batman movie. So there's that.

Now I feel like crying. Because Batman is simultaneously the best and worst thing to happen to DC.

For the record, the 90s is the worst thing to ever happen to DC. Batman is just the best and worst thing to happen to DC movies.

The 90s can't be any worse then the 60s. I mean most of Silver Age DC was garbage.

I'll take the campy, fun, 60's Batman over the super serious, grim, 90's Batman.

Plus as an offset to the 90's, Batman: The Animated Series came out and ran through a good portion of that. That version of Batman is actually probably my personal favorite, even including other versions of the character in the comics.

If Animated Series Batman is your personal Fav then why do you still prefer goofy 60s fun Batman?

And where has this whole anti seriousness in Superheroes came from. The whole Comic Book Superheroes Unmasked documentary showed me that the campy,goofy era was the concequnce of the Comics Code Authority and the doc painted it as a Bad thing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ygx_rUJ3XaI

Its part of the reason why Marvel comic books in the 60s were more popular because they gave depth to their characters and stories while DC was wholly subserviant and Crippled under the Comics Code Authority.

Also the documentary never mentions the "Badness" of the 90s which again I highly question that since Kingdom Come came out of that era and its the best DC comic book I have read yet.

 

[Something Amyss]

I'll take the campy, fun, 60's Batman over the super serious, grim, 90's Batman.

I'll take them both over Miller Batman, who has stretched from the 80s to the present.

 

[Samtemdo8_v1legacy]

I'll take the campy, fun, 60's Batman over the super serious, grim, 90's Batman.

I'll take them both over Miller Batman, who has stretched from the 80s to the present.

Can't deny the legacy of Miller Batman though. It inspired Tim Burton Batman, and Batman the Animated Series.

And come on at least the first half did FELT like Batman.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PnJb65keZi4

 

[The Enquirer]

Maybe they'll finally release something other than Batman for a change.

Well, based on their current output, Wonder Woman should be a good female Batman movie. So there's that.

Now I feel like crying. Because Batman is simultaneously the best and worst thing to happen to DC.

For the record, the 90s is the worst thing to ever happen to DC. Batman is just the best and worst thing to happen to DC movies.

The 90s can't be any worse then the 60s. I mean most of Silver Age DC was garbage.

I'll take the campy, fun, 60's Batman over the super serious, grim, 90's Batman.

Plus as an offset to the 90's, Batman: The Animated Series came out and ran through a good portion of that. That version of Batman is actually probably my personal favorite, even including other versions of the character in the comics.

If Animated Series Batman is your personal Fav then why do you still prefer goofy 60s fun Batman?

And where has this whole anti seriousness in Superheroes came from. The whole Comic Book Superheroes Unmasked documentary showed me that the campy,goofy era was the concequnce of the Comics Code Authority and the doc painted it as a Bad thing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ygx_rUJ3XaI

Its part of the reason why Marvel comic books in the 60s were more popular because they gave depth to their characters and stories while DC was wholly subserviant and Crippled under the Comics Code Authority.

Also the documentary never mentions the "Badness" of the 90s which again I highly question that since Kingdom Come came out of that era and its the best DC comic book I have read yet.

I should have specified. If I had to pick between comic versions of the character I would take the 60's version over the 90's, but Batman as a whole obviously wasn't bad as a whole during the 90's.

I guess I just prefer fun over incredibly dark, poorly written (in my opinion) characters.

I'll take the campy, fun, 60's Batman over the super serious, grim, 90's Batman.

I'll take them both over Miller Batman, who has stretched from the 80s to the present.

Shhhh, we don't mention that name out loud.

 

[Something Amyss]

Shhhh, we don't mention that name out loud.

I wish I could just pretend he didn't exist, but he's got his taint all over Batman.

 

[Chanticoblues]

I thought the whole Justice League buildup wasn't a smart business strategy. It worked for Marvel, but even they're planning features into the 2020's which might not be the best if viewers decide that they're over superheroes.

But I'm sad any time less movies get made---which seems to be the growing trend for studios.

 

[Samtemdo8_v1legacy]

Shhhh, we don't mention that name out loud.

I wish I could just pretend he didn't exist, but he's got his taint all over Batman.

Its a taint that gave us Batman the Animated Series

 

[mduncan50]

Maybe they'll finally release something other than Batman for a change.

Well, based on their current output, Wonder Woman should be a good female Batman movie. So there's that.

Now I feel like crying. Because Batman is simultaneously the best and worst thing to happen to DC.

For the record, the 90s is the worst thing to ever happen to DC. Batman is just the best and worst thing to happen to DC movies.

The 90s can't be any worse then the 60s. I mean most of Silver Age DC was garbage.

I'll take the campy, fun, 60's Batman over the super serious, grim, 90's Batman.

Plus as an offset to the 90's, Batman: The Animated Series came out and ran through a good portion of that. That version of Batman is actually probably my personal favorite, even including other versions of the character in the comics.

If Animated Series Batman is your personal Fav then why do you still prefer goofy 60s fun Batman?

And where has this whole anti seriousness in Superheroes came from. The whole Comic Book Superheroes Unmasked documentary showed me that the campy,goofy era was the concequnce of the Comics Code Authority and the doc painted it as a Bad thing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ygx_rUJ3XaI

Its part of the reason why Marvel comic books in the 60s were more popular because they gave depth to their characters and stories while DC was wholly subserviant and Crippled under the Comics Code Authority.

Also the documentary never mentions the "Badness" of the 90s which again I highly question that since Kingdom Come came out of that era and its the best DC comic book I have read yet.

For every Kingdom Come, there was a dozen Emerald Twilights, At Earths Ends, Zero Hours, Electric Powered Supermen, Jean-Paul Valley Batmen, variant covers, character reboots, etc. And there's no issue with serious stories is comic books, they have always and will always have their place in comics and they are very popular. What we got from the 90s wasn't seriousness though. It was the manufactured "edgy" and "extreme" tone that was injected to nearly every series, whether it made sense or not. Basically it was the precursor to the modern DC movie universe, though Marvel was just as guilty of it at the time.

And Kingdom Come was written largely as a response to those trends, showing the end result of all of the "heroes" becoming edgy and extreme (Alex Ross stated that Magog was created to be the embodiment of everything they hated in modern comics), and the traditional heroes being sent into hiding, or in Superman's case literally being put out to pasture. And while the result of that was bad for the world, even worse was when the traditional heroes were brought back into the fold, and given edgy and extreme make-overs of their own, culminating in the destruction of nearly every superhero we know and love (and of the industry, metaphorically.) Things do not begin to improve until the man of faith convinced Superman that rather than adapting his morals to the environment around him, it was more important than ever that in the face of that environment that he should stay true to those things that made him a symbol of hope for the public. I think maybe Goyer or Snyder would do well to maybe give it a read.

 

[The Enquirer]

Shhhh, we don't mention that name out loud.

I wish I could just pretend he didn't exist, but he's got his taint all over Batman.

Its a taint that gave us Batman the Animated Series

No, that was actually Tim Burton's 1989 Batman. Granted that's not a great movie but it had a really solid script before Burton got all over it and aesthetically it's a clear inspiration for a lot of the show.

 

[Samtemdo8_v1legacy]

Shhhh, we don't mention that name out loud.

I wish I could just pretend he didn't exist, but he's got his taint all over Batman.

Its a taint that gave us Batman the Animated Series

No, that was actually Tim Burton's 1989 Batman. Granted that's not a great movie but it had a really solid script before Burton got all over it and aesthetically it's a clear inspiration for a lot of the show.

That is the thing, Dark Knight Retuns paved the way to Burton's Batman which then paved the way to the Animated Series.

 

[Samtemdo8_v1legacy]

Maybe they'll finally release something other than Batman for a change.

Well, based on their current output, Wonder Woman should be a good female Batman movie. So there's that.

Now I feel like crying. Because Batman is simultaneously the best and worst thing to happen to DC.

For the record, the 90s is the worst thing to ever happen to DC. Batman is just the best and worst thing to happen to DC movies.

The 90s can't be any worse then the 60s. I mean most of Silver Age DC was garbage.

I'll take the campy, fun, 60's Batman over the super serious, grim, 90's Batman.

Plus as an offset to the 90's, Batman: The Animated Series came out and ran through a good portion of that. That version of Batman is actually probably my personal favorite, even including other versions of the character in the comics.

If Animated Series Batman is your personal Fav then why do you still prefer goofy 60s fun Batman?

And where has this whole anti seriousness in Superheroes came from. The whole Comic Book Superheroes Unmasked documentary showed me that the campy,goofy era was the concequnce of the Comics Code Authority and the doc painted it as a Bad thing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ygx_rUJ3XaI

Its part of the reason why Marvel comic books in the 60s were more popular because they gave depth to their characters and stories while DC was wholly subserviant and Crippled under the Comics Code Authority.

Also the documentary never mentions the "Badness" of the 90s which again I highly question that since Kingdom Come came out of that era and its the best DC comic book I have read yet.

For every Kingdom Come, there was a dozen Emerald Twilights, At Earths Ends, Zero Hours, Electric Powered Supermen, Jean-Paul Valley Batmen, variant covers, character reboots, etc. And there's no issue with serious stories is comic books, they have always and will always have their place in comics and they are very popular. What we got from the 90s wasn't seriousness though. It was the manufactured "edgy" and "extreme" tone that was injected to nearly every series, whether it made sense or not. Basically it was the precursor to the modern DC movie universe, though Marvel was just as guilty of it at the time.

And Kingdom Come was written largely as a response to those trends, showing the end result of all of the "heroes" becoming edgy and extreme (Alex Ross stated that Magog was created to be the embodiment of everything they hated in modern comics), and the traditional heroes being sent into hiding, or in Superman's case literally being put out to pasture. And while the result of that was bad for the world, even worse was when the traditional heroes were brought back into the fold, and given edgy and extreme make-overs of their own, culminating in the destruction of nearly every superhero we know and love (and of the industry, metaphorically.) Things do not begin to improve until the man of faith convinced Superman that rather than adapting his morals to the environment around him, it was more important than ever that in the face of that environment that he should stay true to those things that made him a symbol of hope for the public. I think maybe Goyer or Snyder would do well to maybe give it a read.

I hated At Earth's End. Its so bad that I still wonder to this day why Man of Steel is considered a bad movie after seeing that shit of a Superman story that is At Earth's End.

And again this current movies looks nothing like this.

Zack Snyder certainly is not gonna go as far re-create Superman At Earth's End. Even he is not as dumb as Rob Liefeld.

And finally I really do not see Snyder's Superman being "Dark and Edgy" So long as I see scenes like this he is still Superman to me:

 

[The Enquirer]

Shhhh, we don't mention that name out loud.

I wish I could just pretend he didn't exist, but he's got his taint all over Batman.

Its a taint that gave us Batman the Animated Series

No, that was actually Tim Burton's 1989 Batman. Granted that's not a great movie but it had a really solid script before Burton got all over it and aesthetically it's a clear inspiration for a lot of the show.

That is the thing, Dark Knight Retuns paved the way to Burton's Batman which then paved the way to the Animated Series.

It wasn't actually based on it though, which is why Batman: TAS was as good as it is in my eyes and highly preferable to any of Miller's Batman work, at least in my eyes.

 

[Samtemdo8_v1legacy]

Shhhh, we don't mention that name out loud.

I wish I could just pretend he didn't exist, but he's got his taint all over Batman.

Its a taint that gave us Batman the Animated Series

No, that was actually Tim Burton's 1989 Batman. Granted that's not a great movie but it had a really solid script before Burton got all over it and aesthetically it's a clear inspiration for a lot of the show.

That is the thing, Dark Knight Retuns paved the way to Burton's Batman which then paved the way to the Animated Series.

It wasn't actually based on it though, which is why Batman: TAS was as good as it is in my eyes and highly preferable to any of Miller's Batman work, at least in my eyes.

Look I get it Miller ruined with All Star Batman and Robin and Dark Knight Strikes Again (which the latter imo is worse then All Star, at least with All Star I can enjoy looking at Jim Lee's art)

But damn it Miller set out to get Batman's balls back with the first book and he succeeded:

https://youtu.be/Ygx_rUJ3XaI?t=3994

I like the idea of Batman being like Dirty Harry it adds and emphasises his vigilante aspect.

 

[The Enquirer]

Shhhh, we don't mention that name out loud.

I wish I could just pretend he didn't exist, but he's got his taint all over Batman.

Its a taint that gave us Batman the Animated Series

No, that was actually Tim Burton's 1989 Batman. Granted that's not a great movie but it had a really solid script before Burton got all over it and aesthetically it's a clear inspiration for a lot of the show.

That is the thing, Dark Knight Retuns paved the way to Burton's Batman which then paved the way to the Animated Series.

It wasn't actually based on it though, which is why Batman: TAS was as good as it is in my eyes and highly preferable to any of Miller's Batman work, at least in my eyes.

Look I get it Miller ruined with All Star Batman and Robin and Dark Knight Strikes Again (which the latter imo is worse then All Star, at least with All Star I can enjoy looking at Jim Lee's art)

But damn it Miller set out to get Batman's balls back with the first book and he succeeded:

https://youtu.be/Ygx_rUJ3XaI?t=3994

I like the idea of Batman being like Dirty Harry it adds and emphasises his vigilante aspect.

I'm just not a Miller fan, you are, which is totally fine. I don't like the way he treats his characters, not to mention the fact he will tear down characters to make another character, in this case, Batman, look better, rather than adding on to, let's face it, a very rich comic book history. He really seems to have a distaste for any positive characters. Watchmen was him borderline saying "positivity and optimism is stupid".

Granted this is getting a little off topic so shoot me a PM if you feel like continuing! Always up for a good discussion about comics.

EDIT: Someone pointed out to me Watchmen was actually Alan Moore. For some reason I always get him and Frank Miller confused.

 

[The Enquirer]

[Frank Miller] really seems to have a distaste for any positive characters. Watchmen was him borderline saying "positivity and optimism is stupid".

Watchmen was an Allen Moore trip, you can tell because the bleakness is complimented by actual intelligence and nuance.

Crap, I always get Moore and Miller confused. My mistake!

 

[Bob_McMillan]

So does this mean we'll have to wait even longer for a Wonder Woman movie (and possibly even longer for a good one)?

Edit: Since I've gotten a few replies already from this, let me just say to not take this post too seriously. I'm not seriously asking if this will delay the Wonder Woman movie. It's more a joke about the continued lack of a Wonder Woman movie.

I know you were joking, but ironically, the Wonder Woman movie has been moved forward. Not by much, just three weeks, but still.

http://www.ign.com/articles/2016/04/06/wonder-woman-release-date-moved-forward-two-untitled-dc-films-get-dates