After Batman vs. Superman Letdown, Warner Bros. Will Reportedly Release Fewer Films

[Cicada 5]

the Hollywood Reporter article clearly says that WB are going to be concentrating on the DCEU and releasing fewer one off films that are not part of an established franchise. If anything it shows how confident WB are, that they're not taking on risky projects likes Pan and concentrating more on the DCEU.

 

[minkus_draconus]

I'll take the campy, fun, 60's Batman over the super serious, grim, 90's Batman.

Plus as an offset to the 90's, Batman: The Animated Series came out and ran through a good portion of that. That version of Batman is actually probably my personal favorite, even including other versions of the character in the comics.

I really love Batman the Brave and the Bold. It takes 60's campy fun and more recent comic/animated series elements and mixes them up. I have a hard time deciding if I like BatB or TAS better, they are neck and neck.

 

[mduncan50]

So does this mean we'll have to wait even longer for a Wonder Woman movie (and possibly even longer for a good one)?

Edit: Since I've gotten a few replies already from this, let me just say to not take this post too seriously. I'm not seriously asking if this will delay the Wonder Woman movie. It's more a joke about the continued lack of a Wonder Woman movie.

I know you were joking, but ironically, the Wonder Woman movie has been moved forward. Not by much, just three weeks, but still.

http://www.ign.com/articles/2016/04/06/wonder-woman-release-date-moved-forward-two-untitled-dc-films-get-dates

It's not really ironic when you look at the reason. This upcoming weekend, BvS's third in theatres, about half of the industry analysts are expecting that movie to drop from first (after an already record breaking 2nd weekend drop) to the new Melissa McCarthy movie "The Boss" (which I honestly hadn't heard of before reading an article about Dawn of Justice). You know what comes out two weekends after Wonder Woman's original release date? The new Marvel produced Spider-Man. Yeah, they want to put as much space between those two movies as possible.

 

[Zhukov]

And finally I really do not see Snyder's Superman being "Dark and Edgy" So long as I see scenes like this he is still Superman to me:
[images snipped]

Ah yes, those scenes.

Despite it being a montage in which Superman rescues people from various accidents and natural disasters, the film still managed to make it downcast and dreary. It's backed by slow mournful music. It's split up by people debating Superman's place in the world order. Throughout it all he's looking detached and put upon, like he's thinking, "Uggggh, why do I have save all these people, they don't even like me!" It ends with him sitting on his couch, shaking his head and looking disgusted.

Look, I'm not a comics guy. Or at least not a superhero comics guy. So I don't dislike the film for "getting Superman wrong" or "ruining Lex Luthor" or "Batman shoots people" or whatever. (No, I dislike the film for being a long, boring, dreary, nonsensical slog with bugger all action or levity.) But even I can see why people take issue with its tone and depiction of Superman.

Clearly they should just give the rights to Marvel so they can do it right.

 

[minkus_draconus]

Clearly they should just give the rights to Marvel so they can do it right.

Nice...
Why cant I flag your post as "Awesome!"?

 

[mduncan50]

Clearly they should just give the rights to Marvel so they can do it right.

Nice...
Why cant I flag your post as "Awesome!"?

Funny thing is that it's not so unbelievable as you would think.

http://io9.gizmodo.com/5835091/the-time-marvel-comics-almost-published-batman-and-superman

DC almost had Marvel publish their comics because they were constantly losing money. Is it so different to have Marvel make their movies for them.

 

[minkus_draconus]

Clearly they should just give the rights to Marvel so they can do it right.

Nice...
Why cant I flag your post as "Awesome!"?

Funny thing is that it's not so unbelievable as you would think.

http://io9.gizmodo.com/5835091/the-time-marvel-comics-almost-published-batman-and-superman

DC almost had Marvel publish their comics because they were constantly losing money. Is it so different to have Marvel make their movies for them.

While something like that might work (DC having creative control and jobbing out the film work to not WB) the problem I see with DC is Mr. Didio. I am not positively disposed towards him from his time at ABC and Mainframe Entertainment. Besides I'm pretty sure the WB contracts are probably inescapable.

 

[Laughing Man]

They are trying to use large sums of money to buy the quick set up that Marvel took several years and several cheaper to produce movies to do. The main difference if one of Marvel's movies doesn't do so well then they can just move on and try and improve the next effort but because WB plough so much money in to their setup movies if they do poorly you get this, a retrospective step back and review with the wider plans put on hold. It happened with Green Lantern and in one move they shelved the entire DCCU.

When Marvel had Nick Fury at the end of Ironman they had pretty much committed to an extended universe (also helped by Ironman being a f*cking great movie) and they played it clever, smaller budget set up movies to establish the law and characters followed by a balls out monster with The Avengers.

WB seems unwilling to commit to a DCCU most likely why even the delivery of the Nick Fury moment in BvS (the flash drive with other Metas caught on video) was so utterly throw a way.

What we are seeing is an example of someone having big success because they worked bloody hard and paid their dues to earn that success (Marvel) vs someone who thinks they can just throw large gobs of cash at the problem and that will automatically buy them the success (WB) Fuck they are so uncommitted to the expanded universe they couldn't even get the guy who plays The Flash on one of their TV programs to be The Flash in one of their movies.

 

[mduncan50]

Mr Didio? I have to know if thats a joke before I call him Mr Dildo.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dan_DiDio

Yes it's real, and yes he is Mr. Dildo. Actually, he may have gotten a doctorate in dildolatry.

 

[mduncan50]

They are trying to use large sums of money to buy the quick set up that Marvel took several years and several cheaper to produce movies to do. The main difference if one of Marvel's movies doesn't do so well then they can just move on and try and improve the next effort but because WB plough so much money in to their setup movies if they do poorly you get this, a retrospective step back and review with the wider plans put on hold. It happened with Green Lantern and in one move they shelved the entire DCCU.

When Marvel had Nick Fury at the end of Ironman they had pretty much committed to an extended universe (also helped by Ironman being a f*cking great movie) and they played it clever, smaller budget set up movies to establish the law and characters followed by a balls out monster with The Avengers.

WB seems unwilling to commit to a DCCU most likely why even the delivery of the Nick Fury moment in BvS (the flash drive with other Metas caught on video) was so utterly throw a way.

What we are seeing is an example of someone having big success because they worked bloody hard and paid their dues to earn that success (Marvel) vs someone who thinks they can just throw large gobs of cash at the problem and that will automatically buy them the success (WB) Fuck they are so uncommitted to the expanded universe they couldn't even get the guy who plays The Flash on one of their TV programs to be The Flash in one of their movies.

I really don't get why they've decided to keep the TV and movie universes separate either. I mean, Gotham would obviously have to be on its own because Bruce Wayne is just a kid, but they have three other popular shows going on right now and at least three casting conflicts that I know of. (Kal El, Flash, and Deadshot) The only thing I can think of is that WB doesn't think that people will spend money to see characters in the movies, when they can just see them at home. But with the amount of people that didn't even realize that it was the Flash that was talking to Batman in his "vision/dream", imagine how much more that would have popped if the audience had recognized him from his TV show. I think it's the little things like that that makes Marvel movies better at the moment (and I'm not trying to hurt any fanboys, I would be completely happy to be proven wrong in the future), because those movies are being created by a comic book company, and DC movies are being made by a movie studio.

 

[Samtemdo8_v1legacy]

Maybe they'll finally release something other than Batman for a change.

Well, based on their current output, Wonder Woman should be a good female Batman movie. So there's that.

Now I feel like crying. Because Batman is simultaneously the best and worst thing to happen to DC.

For the record, the 90s is the worst thing to ever happen to DC. Batman is just the best and worst thing to happen to DC movies.

The 90s can't be any worse then the 60s. I mean most of Silver Age DC was garbage.

Ill take goofy fun nonsense over tryhard grimderp edge any day of the week

Enjoy your stupidly OP Superman and childish plots than.

I will stick with my brilliantly written Kingdom Come thank you

Except that Kingdom Come was specifcially written as a rejection of the 90s and a love letter to the silver age.

You just played yourself

There is also DC Comics' Vertigo Imprint which gave us Sandman, Hellblazer, Preacher, Y the Last Man and others.

And Kingdom Come alone makes it better then whatever was written for DC Comic Books in the 1960s I have not heard a single decent Comic Book of say Superman from the Silver Age. Heck Watchmojo's top 10 list of best Superman Comics has no Silver Age Comic Book:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bZZwIXn6aSQ

 

[Samtemdo8_v1legacy]

And finally I really do not see Snyder's Superman being "Dark and Edgy" So long as I see scenes like this he is still Superman to me:
[images snipped]

Clearly they should just give the rights to Marvel so they can do it right.

Just saying that you have completely disregarded DC and Warner Bros. entire history. (If you do not know DC has been merged with WB since 1969)

The only way for Disney/Marvel to get its hands on the DC property is when Warner Bros. (Or by extension Time Warner) completely collapses.

This is not like Spiderman where Sony only has Movie Rights, DC basically IS Warner Bros.

 

[Kameburger]

I think they might be deciding to just take the BvS critical bashing it received, right on the chin and press on regardless. Marvel had 3 movies before it laid out a whole "phase one, phase 2" ground work. Or at least publicly. WB just did it right after man of steal but they took all this time to cast and find directors so maybe they're just hoping that some practice and feedback will make them better at it.

 

[Zhukov]

And finally I really do not see Snyder's Superman being "Dark and Edgy" So long as I see scenes like this he is still Superman to me:
[images snipped]

Clearly they should just give the rights to Marvel so they can do it right.

Just saying that you have completely disregarded DC and Warner Bros. entire history. (If you do not know DC has been merged with WB since 1969)

The only way for Disney/Marvel to get its hands on the DC property is when Warner Bros. (Or by extension Time Warner) completely collapses.

This is not like Spiderman where Sony only has Movie Rights, DC basically IS Warner Bros.

Okay, and?

Marvel would still make a better Superman/Wonder Woman movie than DC ever will.

I'm not saying it's likely to happen. Merely that it would be the best outcome for moviegoers.

And that's even coming from someone who doesn't like the Marvel movies all that much.

 

[Samtemdo8_v1legacy]

And finally I really do not see Snyder's Superman being "Dark and Edgy" So long as I see scenes like this he is still Superman to me:
[images snipped]

Clearly they should just give the rights to Marvel so they can do it right.

Just saying that you have completely disregarded DC and Warner Bros. entire history. (If you do not know DC has been merged with WB since 1969)

The only way for Disney/Marvel to get its hands on the DC property is when Warner Bros. (Or by extension Time Warner) completely collapses.

This is not like Spiderman where Sony only has Movie Rights, DC basically IS Warner Bros.

Okay, and?

Marvel would still make a better Superman/Wonder Woman movie than DC ever will.

I'm not saying it's likely to happen. Merely that it would be the best outcome for moviegoers.

And that's even coming from someone who doesn't like the Marvel movies all that much.

Marvel Disney would turn Superman and Wonder Woman into a annoying quip fest and most likely would turn Batman into that Lego version of him

If I want someone to direct and write for these DC Movies it would be Bruce Timm directing and Alan Moore writing.

But I am mostly content with Zack's direction because as of now when it comes to Superhero theatrical movies all I care about is the action and my goodness the Doomsdsay fight was fuckin hype I smiled in glee and goddamn the soundtrack that plays when Wonder Woman appears:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S176AKQhcCk&list=PLBKadB95sF44vjNzNABcYoF_7ae6lAgJM&index=12&nohtml5=False

Now that makes me excited for the Wonder Woman movie.

 

[Zhukov]

But I am mostly content with Zack's direction because as of now when it comes to Superhero theatrical movies all I care about is the action and my goodness the Doomsdsay fight was fuckin hype

Yeah, I'd say the part where they fought a Lord of the Rings cave troll was the best bit of the movie. Watching Superman get booted about like a soccer ball was fun. Oh, and I liked that reaction look Wonder Woman did whenever she took a hit.

Sadly, for a film titled "Batman V Superman" the actual Batman V Superman bit was awful. Slow, clumsy punch-trading that does basically nothing with the abilities of the characters involved.

Of course those parts were proceeded by two entire hours of poorly constructed down-in-the-mouth drudgery. When your film would be best enjoyed by waiting a year or so then looking up a couple of action scenes on Youtube then that isn't a good sign.

I smiled in glee and goddamn the soundtrack that plays when Wonder Woman appears:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S176AKQhcCk&list=PLBKadB95sF44vjNzNABcYoF_7ae6lAgJM&index=12&nohtml5=False

Y'know that first bit where you hear that, when he sees the old photo?

That would have been a sweet spine-tingling reveal if the promotional material hadn't given everything away months before the movie came out.

Now that makes me excited for the Wonder Woman movie.

Have you seen the preview footage of the Wonder Woman film?

Incredibly drab, grey and joyless. Almost looks like it was filmed in black and white.

 

[Samtemdo8_v1legacy]

But I am mostly content with Zack's direction because as of now when it comes to Superhero theatrical movies all I care about is the action and my goodness the Doomsdsay fight was fuckin hype

Yeah, I'd say the part where they fought a Lord of the Rings cave troll was the best bit of the movie. Watching Superman get booted about like a soccer ball was fun. Oh, and I liked that reaction look Wonder Woman did whenever she took a hit.

Sadly, for a film titled "Batman V Superman" the actual Batman V Superman bit was awful. Slow, clumsy punch-trading that does basically nothing with the abilities of the characters involved.

Of course those parts were proceeded by two entire hours of poorly constructed down-in-the-mouth drudgery. When your film would be best enjoyed by waiting a year or so then looking up a couple of action scenes on Youtube then that isn't a good sign.

I smiled in glee and goddamn the soundtrack that plays when Wonder Woman appears:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S176AKQhcCk&list=PLBKadB95sF44vjNzNABcYoF_7ae6lAgJM&index=12&nohtml5=False

Y'know that first bit where you hear that, when he sees the old photo?

That would have been a sweet spine-tingling reveal if the promotional material hadn't given everything away months before the movie came out.

Now that makes me excited for the Wonder Woman movie.

Have you seen the preview footage of the Wonder Woman film?

Incredibly drab, grey and joyless. Almost looks like it was filmed in black and white.

I don't know about you but this image so far does not say "Drab, Grey, and Joyless, and Black and White"

http://static1.gamespot.com/uploads/original/1551/15511094/3026785-8461545-menalippe-diana-hippolyta-antiope.jpg

 

[BaronVH]

The problem that studios have is when one movie is successful they think all movies should do the same. I do think there is a place for the dark Superman stories, but when the story they are trying to show ends, it is OK to go back to the light, optimistic superman. The Dark Knight made tons of money, so all superhero movies must be gritty. Then Gaurdians of the Galaxy is light and fun, so all must be light and fun. Deadpool makes tons of money, so all must be R rated. The studios need to understand the characters and the fan base before making a movie to emulate a trend.