Against all odds.

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Doclector

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Some people I know sometimes bring up the fact that I am 20 and I have neither lost my virginity or had any kind of lasting meaningful relationship. In response, I list all the reasons that such goals are stupid to go for because the probability of someone wanting me in that specific way is about as small as an x-factor winners odds of a meaningful career once their one year contract is up.

And yet, people still say I should try. This both confuses and makes me happy me about normal people. Often, you will see people go up against incredible odds for things that are not worth it, relationships that are unlikely to last three months, climbing everest seemingly for the kudos, voting for any other party than Labour or conservatives. It's stupid and yet, inspiring. That ability to keep going for a goal when the odds are so much against them that any victory is likely to be at great cost.

So, what do you think of going against the odds? Stupid? Brave? Bit of both? Any particular stories?
 

WarDialler

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Oh it's this thread again.

Look, lemme let you in on a little secret. Having sex doesn't make you Superman and cure all the world's ills. It makes ytou sweaty, hungry and generally sleepy. It's just like having a reeeallly good...ahem, well, you get what I mean. If you want a relationship find a person you like and get them to stick around, but sex isn't an objective it's something fun you get to do to each other. With or without Utensils.

Anyone who says that sex changes the world is either a fucking liar or trying to sell you a lifestyle magazine of some sort.

Go find a person you like, boy or a girl, get to know them, spend time together, the only way to have a relationship with people is to actually have a relationship with people, get out from behind the monitor and be outside with the three dimensional people.
 

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WarDialler said:
Oh it's this thread again.

Look, lemme let you in on a little secret. Having sex doesn't make you Superman and cure all the world's ills. It makes ytou sweaty, hungry and generally sleepy. It's just like having a reeeallly good...ahem, well, you get what I mean. If you want a relationship find a person you like and get them to stick around, but sex isn't an objective it's something fun you get to do to each other. With or without Utensils.

Anyone who says that sex changes the world is either a fucking liar or trying to sell you a lifestyle magazine of some sort.

Go find a person you like, boy or a girl, get to know them, spend time together, the only way to have a relationship with people is to actually have a relationship with people, get out from behind the monitor and be outside with the three dimensional people.
Oh, another person who missed the entire point of the post. This threads about going against all odds to achieve something that probably wasn't worth the trouble. Not about losing one's virginity, he was just using it as an example.
 

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Doclector said:
voting for any other party than Labour or conservatives.
I predict the vast incoming of some very confused Americans in this thread, also this:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Official_Monster_Raving_Loony_Party

On topic, I always root for the underdog. If I'm joining a side in a competitive thing I will always join the worst one, because winning has no meaning when you are already flattening the other side 200-0, and that one time that you go against a superior team that is already in the lead, and manage to pull it around and win, is one of the greatest feelings ever.
 

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They say going against all odds builds character and trains your inner strength for the odd occasion where it really counts to not give up so easily. Even if your relationship lasts for 3 months only you still learned something for later.

I see it as some sort of training. That or ppl are just bored.
 

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Going against all odds, going that extra mile has not proven to be succesfull for me in regards to relationships, mostly because the one I'm trying to court isn't doing the same thing for me.
Does that stop me from repeating such efforts? well no, having done this has built me a reputation of reliability and willingness to dedication, I'm no quitter, for better or for worse, and I'm proud of it.

This trait has helped me professionally on multiple occassions, suffice to say, I admire and respect the "do or die" mentality deeply when I come across it.

So, I guess I find it inspiring, brave (depending on the situation), and worthy of respect.
Foolish, yeah maybe, but pessimism never got me anywhere but in the bottle, so I'd rather be a fool.
 

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Genuine Evil said:
Im horribly lazy and will generally never do anything unless the potential outcome is worth it . im not going to say that taking risks is stupid but unless there is profit or fun involved i don?t care .
See, that's the part that puzzles me. People will go up against impossible odds for goals that ain't worth it. I have went against all odds in getting into uni, and i'm going against them again to try to work in film, but that's worth it, that's my entire future, the difference between doing what I want for a living or sitting in a jobcenter for years and getting put behind a desk. Now, most people go against the odds for seemingly tiny things, like the examples I listed in the op, it would often seem the suffering of struggling against such odds would cause personal damage to the extent where the goal is simply not worth it.
 

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WarDialler said:
It's just like having a reeeallly good...ahem, well, you get what I mean.
...piece of bacon?

OT: Different people have different goals that they would achieve at any and all costs. I think it's one of those things that defines humanity, having a goal to pursue despite all logic. Crazy? Yes. Stupid? Most likely. But it's nice to be able to focus and dedicate everything you are to achieving one particular goal.
 

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Doclector, I think you're selling yourself short. Unless you try to avoid it, it's more likely that you'll find yourself in a relationship like that eventually than that you never will. It will happen if you let it. You just need to be open to it.

Anyway... going against the odds. Yeah, it's kind of crazy. But it's not always the same crazy. Sometimes it's the kind of crazy that will just screw everything up for you... other times it's the crazy that will change your life. Once in a while, it's the kind of crazy that changes history, one way ot the other. It depends on the person and on the circumstances.

It's sort of a gamble, and if you're willing to play, you can win a lot... just remember what a lot of people forget when gambling: don't bet more than you're willing to lose.

That all probably sounds very silly, but it's 2AM and I'm about to go to bed, so cut me some slack. I'm sure I managed to say something useful somewhere in all those words!
 

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Going against all odds will help you learn to overcome adversity whenever needed, that is a skill a lot of people desperately need.

And you most certainly need it before going into the dating scene, truth is any half decent looking girl will have a swarm of guys surround her (and they will never admit it), so there will always be a steep hill to climb before you get anywhere.

But relationships are not an end point they are simply the start of another journey, and if it is a 3 month enjoyable experience then why the heck not?
 

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I think it all depends on what your current priorities are. For example, I do not need companionship or a lasting relationship at this point in my life. It just doesn't fit into my plans right now. It might later when my priorities shift, but for right now it does not.

I actually joke about this with my friends. They give me a hard time for being 21 and alone.

I say that I am forever alone.... and thoes are tears of JOY!
 

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Well, there's no better way to learn, than to set a high goal and explore ways to achieve it.

I aim to publish a freakin' book, for Christs sake. And I've learned a lot. Mainly that book printers will fuck you up the ass with a dildo made of 66% of your profits, and actually writing the book can be difficult when you get to a boring but necessary part; pretty much everything distracts you at such a part, even a damn wall.

And a lot more. But I'm damn glad I am doing it. Fills up my normally boring routine with something that feels... Worthwhile.
 

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I'm a bit stubborn, and if I'm told something is unlikely due to odds, I generally go out of my way to make it happen.
For example, when me and my boyfriend first met, we lived 500+ miles away from each other. Of course people said it wouldn't work out, so I just up and moved. :p

I think if you dont do things because the odds are against you, you dont really make progress.
I mean, you've already beaten loads of odds just to be where you are today, whats a few more.
 

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http://www.cracked.com/article_18550_5-true-war-stories-that-put-every-action-movie-to-shame.html

First one. "...they killed more Germans defending their one building than the French killed in the entire fall of Paris.

Sometimes, just sometimes, going against the odds pays off. Statistics are a good indicator of how a large group of people will act, but it's much harder predicting how one person will do.