Agreeing with the "villain"

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Bit of a spoiler for some....


Alex from Golden Sun (specifically 2, but technically both). They all hate him by the end, but if you think about it, he saved the world. He did it for his own benefit, sure, but everybody would have be royally screwed. Besides, SOMEONE might as well have benefitted from the phenomenon at the end...
 

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samaritan.squirrel said:
The Joker and Tyler Durden [sp?].
The Dark Knight and Fight Club respectively.
I'm intrigued, is there anything here other than pure nihilism? The Joker is one of the least motivated villains I've ever seen, which is why he is so effective. He has no purpose, he just IS. How is there anything there for you to agree with?

As for my choice: The Patriots in MGS2. Creating a supercomputer to scour the internet of all the pointless dross seems pretty noble to me. What's worrying, is that MGS2 was before MySpace and Facebook. Oh Kojima, you make fools of us all.
 

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TheLazyKnight said:
I always agree with Bowser's intentions. It gets lonely in his castle.
Why does he need 8 castles if he only keeps the princess in one?
Unless he is planning on kidnapping 7 more to fill them.
 

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The meaning of "antagonist" is someone you're supposed to not feel empathy for in a told story. Doesn't mean they're good or evil.

BolognaBaloney said:
TheLazyKnight said:
I always agree with Bowser's intentions. It gets lonely in his castle.
Why does he need 8 castles if he only keeps the princess in one?
Unless he is planning on kidnapping 7 more to fill them.
He was gonna work with Ganon at some point, but the deal fell through. Something about mushrooms and triangles...
 

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I saw President Eden's argument in Fallout 3, and while it was cold and uncaring, it made sense, in a way.
Also, Dagoth Ur, it was not his fault, and I would have done the same in his position.
 

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Jack Nicholson in a Few Good Men.
Agreed with him 100%
Not about killing that poor kid ofcourse, but about everything else.
 

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metal gear solid 2, solidus and the patriots both have good points depending on wich one is telling the truth.
 

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Erana said:
The meaning of "antagonist" is someone you're supposed to not feel empathy for in a told story. Doesn't mean they're good or evil.

BolognaBaloney said:
TheLazyKnight said:
I always agree with Bowser's intentions. It gets lonely in his castle.
Why does he need 8 castles if he only keeps the princess in one?
Unless he is planning on kidnapping 7 more to fill them.
He was gonna work with Ganon at some point, but the deal fell through. Something about mushrooms and triangles...
Made me laugh.
 

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Erana said:
The meaning of "antagonist" is someone you're supposed to not feel empathy for in a told story. Doesn't mean they're good or evil.

BolognaBaloney said:
TheLazyKnight said:
I always agree with Bowser's intentions. It gets lonely in his castle.
Why does he need 8 castles if he only keeps the princess in one?
Unless he is planning on kidnapping 7 more to fill them.
He was gonna work with Ganon at some point, but the deal fell through. Something about mushrooms and triangles...
Well that's just a darn shame. Because the thought of Mario and Link teaming up to.... nah nevermind it's for the best.
 

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Vash108 said:
BolognaBaloney said:
I think Hitler was right. Oh wait, gaming villians?
He would have been the villain in every WW2 game especially Wolfenstien 3D.
Wolf 3d is one of the only WWII villians that actually demonized Hitler as much as the Nazi's, all current games make no reference to him at all.
 

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Casual Shinji said:
Jack Nicholson in a Few Good Men.
Agreed with him 100%
Not about killing that poor kid ofcourse, but about everything else.
That's the catch with a good villain. You need to understand WHY they do the terrible deeds. Jack's character has this in spades. He is also an egotistical douche-nozzle which proved to be his undoing.

Few game characters seem to have a good motivation for what they do. Lucian is building the spire to save his family, and in the end that's all I was doing to. I killed just as many people and destroyed just as many lives in order to accomplish this goal. In all reality, the only thing separating me from Lucian was perspective.
 
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I agree with Hircine from the Morrowind expansion Bloodmoon. It is really entertaining watching werewolves fight an Imperial General.