Makes sense because of course all men are pedophiles and rapists just waiting for an opportunity. This man was obviously just bidding time between beating his wife. [/sarcasm]
But, like the OP said, I would assume that you're not at all hypocritcal and would support such a policy for Islamic customers, correct?octafish said:Good policy poorly implemented. It covers the airlines responsibilities and isn't out of line. Besides it probably plainly spelled out in all the fine print no one reads. Upgrades for either the male nurse or the kid would be a nice solution but I guess not possible if the flight is fully booked. I doubt there would have been any news story if the flight attendant had thanked the nurse and explained that it was just company policy and nothing personal in any way.
Insignificant? You do know that a man's social life can be permanently ruined just by the accusation of being interested in children, right? That men with families have lost their jobs or have gone out of business because the locals think, without proof, that the man is a kiddy-diddler, right? That many men would now leave a lost child crying where he/she is rather than help because of how society, let alone the mother, would react, right?Akytalusia said:which dialect are you using in your avatar? the way i understand it, it reads 'deal hith it' o.o;;Valanthe said:While discrimination is bad in any form, I'd like to ask a more important question, Who the hell lets a 10 year old fly unattended?
OT: i have no strong opinion one way or the other. personally, i think discrimination on any level is due cause for concern, but this level is insignificant compared to levels that are worth focusing on.
You're using that example as your reductio ad absurdum, but a lot of people rationalize that way. That many of the people on the site who used that reasoning wouldn't have done the same had the issue been that example is simply a matter of where their personal prejudices lie.Jez said:...
So what is your take on the airlines issues? Here's mine, quoted from someone who pretty much said exactly what I would've.
Any discrimination should not be tolerated, it's not magically okay since it happens to men less.You know what? Most Muslims aren't terrorists, but most airline terrorists are Muslim. It only makes sense that Muslims should be kept as far away from the cockpit as possible. If they're sitting up front, just ask them to move.
So what if a few Muslims are humiliated? It's nothing compared to what the victims of 9/11 felt.
Jesus. That's a genuinely sad story. I'm sorry that happened to you.Raioken18 said:The thing is... justifications like that are common and it makes it increasingly uncomfortable for men in terms of relating to children. My girlfriend and I both love kids, but...
Ok, so this had only happened like a few times but in the past we had been shopping and come across lost children. The first time as a responsible male I took a little girl up to the checkout to inform the cashier that she was lost. Immediately security was called over and I was basically interrogated in front of a busy checkout line, then when the mother got there she just death stared me like I had kidnapped her child and not found her lost and crying... They also wouldn't let me leave till I'd given them my drivers license to verify my identity and also took down my home address.
So now whenever I see a lost child, I either ignore them or ask my girlfriend to take them to a checkout or to get a staff member. Basically because if I provide aid to a child, as a male I am immediately in the wrong, where as my girlfriend is treated so differently for performing the same actions. She basically gets thanked instantly and allowed to go back to her shopping.
This also makes me worry about when I have my own kids if I'd even suffer those looks as a father taking care of his own child, or if I'd be interrogated or death stared for doing so. Why as a male should I feel discomfort in the idea of caring for my own children or other children.
I might get used to that sort of thing but... why should I have to get used to it?
You probably wouldn't be too surprised to learn that some women think this way. I've seen comments almost to this exact effect.Baron von Blitztank said:Oh fuck off! If we're putting it into potential possibilities then anyone can be a molester!
You see that person walking down the street? MOLESTER
Your neighbor? MOLESTER
Your girlfriend? MOLESTER
You? MOLESTER
Nothing is safe! Anyone could rape you at any time! Don't go outside! TRUST NOBODY!
Unless they're rapist glasses: rtsp://v4.cache7.c.youtube.com/CjYLENy73wIaLQnG5UoDNDJXERMYJCAkFEIJbXYtZ29vZ2xlSARSBXdhdGNoYOzE0OHkp_zSTgw=/0/0/0/video.3gpEri said:A pro tip; If you have a big manly beard that makes you look like a biker or something, wear glasses and you'll instantly become a professor.Cheesepower5 said:Ugh, what a pile of horse shit.
I totally know I'd get singled out for this. The un-manly drawback to having a manly beard.
Some MEN think this way too, I mean, the person whose comment you copied in the OP was a dude, and like I said, many parents are uncomfortable with it. Lets not make this a `women-say, men-say` thing.Eri said:You probably wouldn't be too surprised to learn that some women think this way. I've seen comments almost to this exact effect.Baron von Blitztank said:Oh fuck off! If we're putting it into potential possibilities then anyone can be a molester!
You see that person walking down the street? MOLESTER
Your neighbor? MOLESTER
Your girlfriend? MOLESTER
You? MOLESTER
Nothing is safe! Anyone could rape you at any time! Don't go outside! TRUST NOBODY!
Hell I'm a dude, and I'm overtly paranoid about anyone I don't know. Hell even the people I do know I don't really trust unless I've known them a while.Eri said:You probably wouldn't be too surprised to learn that some women think this way. I've seen comments almost to this exact effect.Baron von Blitztank said:Oh fuck off! If we're putting it into potential possibilities then anyone can be a molester!
You see that person walking down the street? MOLESTER
Your neighbor? MOLESTER
Your girlfriend? MOLESTER
You? MOLESTER
Nothing is safe! Anyone could rape you at any time! Don't go outside! TRUST NOBODY!
Hell I don't know you from adam mate, but if you were around my nephews I'd treat you with a degree of suspicion.... And yeah, maybe that is a damn shame, but ya know....asap said:This type is behavior is becoming such a problem in modern society.
Children need to be exposed to the world far more than they are, and not allowing them to interact outside their families will harm development and make them shy.
I personally am often given funny looks as despite being 20 I love the swings at my local park and will often interact with the local children. I love children and don't see why I can not just have some fun with them.
Darn nanny state
I'm a molester? Why didn't I see this coming?!? Oh lawd! D:Baron von Blitztank said:Oh fuck off! If we're putting it into potential possibilities then anyone can be a molester!
You see that person walking down the street? MOLESTER
Your neighbor? MOLESTER
Your girlfriend? MOLESTER
You? MOLESTER
Nothing is safe! Anyone could rape you at any time! Don't go outside! TRUST NOBODY!
Stuff like this makes me a bit sad. Some of my friends-who-are-girls have quite a bit of money saved up since they've been babysitting regularly from the age of 12-ish. I'd like to think I'm a trustworthy fellow but I just know that if I ever tried to hitch a ride on the cash train from the babysitting business I'd be denied because of my status as a male.Overusedname said:I'm a guy. I've been a baby sitter. Am I like...suspicious now? Christ.
Same here. She's told me not to be alone with kids more than two years younger than myself unless they were family. Now I can pretty much see where she's coming from.AnAutisticDog said:You know, I always thought my mom was nuts when she told me to avoid situations where I would be alone/be around with someone's kids because people will assume things.