J Tyran said:
So let me get this straight are you still insisting that the aditional mini campaign with a completly seperare story is chopped out? If so how?
Maybe it was one of set pieces where Ellen Ripley finds a Weyland-Yutani Holodeck simulation on Sevastopol station of what happened on the Nostromo they made for research purposes, Ellen would have entered the simulation to try and find out the truth. Maybe it was part of a time travel plot instead? Sega thought they would cut that bit out and make it a piece of DLC to screw the consumer instead? Can you explain why you think that this is part of the main game and the game isn't complete without it even though its a completely new section of game set in a place where the protagonist of Alien: Isolation could never have gone to as an adult as the ship was destroyed when she was a child and with people that had been dead for over a decade.
So will you concede that it is in fact a completely separate peice of content and the plot in Alien: Isolation is indeed complete without it or do you have plausible explanation about how they cut it out and what they cut it from.
If its not that maybe the extra content being developed in parallel with Alien: Isolation is upsetting you, but why? Whether the developed it now, in six months in or six years it would still have took time money and resources to create. They even bought in a whole bunch of extra voice actors for to make it by assembling the cast from the 1979 movie, basically Sega invested money into an extra piece of content in the hopes of making extra profit and there is nothing wrong with that and I really do think that people that think they should get it "just because" are acting in a way thats the very definition of self entitlement.
I happen to dislike day one and on disk DLC when its content cut from the game as much as you do, like the Javik DLC from Mass Effect or when Crapcom lock a whole bunch of characters from their fighting games and sell the unlocks for ridiculous amounts of money. There is nothing wrong with the idea of additional and completely separate content though, even when developed in parallel with the main game.
As for me not worrying about "things getting worse" I am, just not because of this as because if it does turn out to be some kind of bullshit its something thats already been done over and over and far from the worst thing we have seen a publisher pull.
This is either one of two things. Its either because Sega are concerned about low pre order rates and are trying to encourage people to pre order by offering a larger piece of additional content as a bonus than we usually see, the other option is that Alien: Isolation is an absoloute disaster and both Sega and CA know that it is and they know that the only sales they are going to get are the pre orders they have before the reviews and word of mouth spread so they are trying to make the pre order bonus really appealing to get as many as they can.
Pre orders are always a risk and Segas pedigree with the franchise and CAs declining quality as a developer make it even more so, if people take that risk they chose to do it so I have no concerns or sympathy for that as they rolled the dice on that gamble. If Alien: Isolation does turn out to be an okay (or even a good game) game after all people that waited for the review have the choice to decide if the extra content is worth buying after all.
I wouldn't call people discussing concerns about whether the game will be good or not self entitled, I wouldn't call the people that point out that Sega might offering a really fat a juicy worm as bait because they know the game sucks and are trying to get as many pre orders they self entitled either. The only people that I called self entitled are the ones that are insisting that they shouldn't have to pay or pre order to get a completely separate piece of content from a game thats already complete (good or bad) without it because they have this arbitrary set of self decided criteria that determine they shouldn't have to pay for it.
You're repeating points I've already answered. It doesn't matter if it's separate from the campaign. I don't care how separate the content is. That's not what I'm talking about.
Now you contradict yourself saying you could be concerned about it getting worse, but then give weakest reasoning imaginable with this DLC, being it has been worse before and there are other serious problems. What!? That is not a defense. You don't ignore one problem just because there are more or that it's been done before.
You even contradict yourself when talking about the Javik DLC for Mass Effect, because who's to say what makes a DLC separate? Not one fucking soul! It's all opinion. You can complain that it's worse but it doesn't make a lick of difference. Like I said, it's either all allowed or not at all. Making thin lines between what is right and what isn't just makes it easier for these greedy pubs to get away with it over and over.
Also, I couldn't care less about Sega/CA's concerns. Shit business practices is still not the way to go about it. And pre-ordering shouldn't be a god damn risk, and they shouldn't be using 'extra content' to sucker people into it. You think everyone is as experienced as us? Many people are fucking slow in general and so they invent all these tactics to take advantage of them. We hear about this shit all the time.
That part I bolded is pretty much the main concern, which I think is for everyone calling this out. Once again, how the fuck can you know? How can you know it wasn't already part of the game originally? These are questions that will never be answered with 100% truth behind it and that's why this type of planning should never be allowed. There is literally nothing more to say here.
