Aliens- first to find us, or did our imaginations find them?

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bowserboy26578

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Amoung my friends we've been wondering how aliens could work out. For example, outside of our galaxy, silicon is probably hard to come across. So carbon based life forms- rock men basicaly- are a possibility. there are so many holes in alot of alien theories that I just had to find out what my fellow Escapists had to say. And if you want my technical nerd speak explaination of all the theories we had, just ask. But be ready for a wall of text.
 

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Nova Tendril said:
How the hell would rock men be possible?
theoretically, in a carbon deprived galaxy, silicon could take some carbon like properties. there actually are silicon orgamisms on our planet called... well i don't remember, but it's like that only on a grander scale. Kind of like the one Hunter from Metroid Prime Hunters. the Diamont Spire. I think that's what the microbes are called- diamonts. pretty close atleast.
 

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bowserboy26578 said:
Nova Tendril said:
How the hell would rock men be possible?
theoretically, in a carbon deprived galaxy, silicon could take some carbon like properties. there actually are silicon orgamisms on our planet called... well i don't remember, but it's like that only on a grander scale. Kind of like the one Hunter from Metroid Prime Hunters. the Diamont Spire. I think that's what the microbes are called- diamonts. pretty close atleast.
Rocks are inorganic material. If something was living it could not be made out of rocks because it would have to be organic.
 

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Nova Tendril said:
bowserboy26578 said:
Nova Tendril said:
How the hell would rock men be possible?
theoretically, in a carbon deprived galaxy, silicon could take some carbon like properties. there actually are silicon orgamisms on our planet called... well i don't remember, but it's like that only on a grander scale. Kind of like the one Hunter from Metroid Prime Hunters. the Diamont Spire. I think that's what the microbes are called- diamonts. pretty close atleast.
Rocks are inorganic material. If something was living it could not be made out of rocks because it would have to be organic.
rocks are inorganic but silicon is an element. carbon is inorganic to. electricity can do wonders too. it may be the fuel that started our basic carbon organisms. germs for example.
 

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bowserboy26578 said:
Nova Tendril said:
bowserboy26578 said:
Nova Tendril said:
How the hell would rock men be possible?
theoretically, in a carbon deprived galaxy, silicon could take some carbon like properties. there actually are silicon orgamisms on our planet called... well i don't remember, but it's like that only on a grander scale. Kind of like the one Hunter from Metroid Prime Hunters. the Diamont Spire. I think that's what the microbes are called- diamonts. pretty close atleast.
Rocks are inorganic material. If something was living it could not be made out of rocks because it would have to be organic.
rocks are inorganic but silicon is an element. carbon is inorganic to. electricity can do wonders too. it may be the fuel that started our basic carbon organisms. germs for example.
Your missing the point. If they are living creatures they can not be classified as "rock men" because a rock is an inorganic material.
 

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Nova Tendril said:
bowserboy26578 said:
Nova Tendril said:
bowserboy26578 said:
Nova Tendril said:
How the hell would rock men be possible?
theoretically, in a carbon deprived galaxy, silicon could take some carbon like properties. there actually are silicon orgamisms on our planet called... well i don't remember, but it's like that only on a grander scale. Kind of like the one Hunter from Metroid Prime Hunters. the Diamont Spire. I think that's what the microbes are called- diamonts. pretty close atleast.
Rocks are inorganic material. If something was living it could not be made out of rocks because it would have to be organic.
rocks are inorganic but silicon is an element. carbon is inorganic to. electricity can do wonders too. it may be the fuel that started our basic carbon organisms. germs for example.
Your missing the point. If they are living creatures they can not be classified as "rock men" because a rock is an inorganic material.
it would seem you're missing the point. it's just an example. and if your made of silicon you are- for all intensive purposes a rock man.
 

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bowserboy26578 said:
Nova Tendril said:
bowserboy26578 said:
Nova Tendril said:
bowserboy26578 said:
Nova Tendril said:
How the hell would rock men be possible?
theoretically, in a carbon deprived galaxy, silicon could take some carbon like properties. there actually are silicon orgamisms on our planet called... well i don't remember, but it's like that only on a grander scale. Kind of like the one Hunter from Metroid Prime Hunters. the Diamont Spire. I think that's what the microbes are called- diamonts. pretty close atleast.
Rocks are inorganic material. If something was living it could not be made out of rocks because it would have to be organic.
rocks are inorganic but silicon is an element. carbon is inorganic to. electricity can do wonders too. it may be the fuel that started our basic carbon organisms. germs for example.
Your missing the point. If they are living creatures they can not be classified as "rock men" because a rock is an inorganic material.
it would seem you're missing the point. it's just an example. and if your made of silicon you are- for all intensive purposes a rock man.
An implausible example. You can't be a living creature if you're made out of inorganic material.

I don't get why everyone thinks aliens would be so different from us.
 

bowserboy26578

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Nova Tendril said:
bowserboy26578 said:
Nova Tendril said:
bowserboy26578 said:
Nova Tendril said:
bowserboy26578 said:
Nova Tendril said:
How the hell would rock men be possible?
theoretically, in a carbon deprived galaxy, silicon could take some carbon like properties. there actually are silicon orgamisms on our planet called... well i don't remember, but it's like that only on a grander scale. Kind of like the one Hunter from Metroid Prime Hunters. the Diamont Spire. I think that's what the microbes are called- diamonts. pretty close atleast.
Rocks are inorganic material. If something was living it could not be made out of rocks because it would have to be organic.
rocks are inorganic but silicon is an element. carbon is inorganic to. electricity can do wonders too. it may be the fuel that started our basic carbon organisms. germs for example.
Your missing the point. If they are living creatures they can not be classified as "rock men" because a rock is an inorganic material.
it would seem you're missing the point. it's just an example. and if your made of silicon you are- for all intensive purposes a rock man.
An implausible example. You can't be a living creature if you're made out of inorganic material.

I don't get why everyone thinks aliens would be so different from us.
carbon is inorganic. elecricity is the only reason it was able develope into organic material. theroetically electricity can be used to do thid to any solid and stable element.
 

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Nova Tendril said:
bowserboy26578 said:
Nova Tendril said:
How the hell would rock men be possible?
theoretically, in a carbon deprived galaxy, silicon could take some carbon like properties. there actually are silicon orgamisms on our planet called... well i don't remember, but it's like that only on a grander scale. Kind of like the one Hunter from Metroid Prime Hunters. the Diamont Spire. I think that's what the microbes are called- diamonts. pretty close atleast.
Rocks are inorganic material. If something was living it could not be made out of rocks because it would have to be organic.
organic means "containing carbon", and so if some other element were to replace carbon's role as a building block of life, it would be "inorganic life".

The probabilities that led to the existence of life on earth are not unique, to believe such is slap-in-the-face foolish. That, and the results of the Stephen Miller experiment completely convince me that life does in fact exist out there. What is it like? I would place good money on a very similar evolutionary pathway to ours, for any species capable of speech and technology. My reasoning for this is that in our estimated pathway, as we began to need to stand upright and see farther the gradual remodeling of the cranial vault caused a responsive increase in the size of association cortex, which eventually became a survival adaptation as we became able to grasp more abstract ideas, and once the limbic system and amygdala became involved in association pathways, response generated memory became a reality. While there may be life out there totally different from our understanding, I would bet that it's not very smart. It could be, I'm just saying that my money is on a creature of some kind that we might recognize, or who had similar pathway changes at some point resulting in association cortex and memory.

Will we contact them? That depends on us.

The nearest planetary system outside of ours is 20 light years away. It probably doesn't have life on it. But suppose we wanted to send someone to find out.

If you built a spaceship that accelerated at 1g constantly for a year, it would be traveling very close to the speed of light. Suppose you only accelerated at 1g for long enough to be traveling half the speed of light. It would take your vessel 40 years to get there. That's an awful long time to be in space. But who cares? it's SPACE!!! It is 'doable', and the expense of doing so is largely created out of thin air. The chinese space program is embarassingly cheaper than ours was, I say WAS because the shuttles are due to retire next year and that leaves us with rocket propelled robots and precisely dick else. Also, the outer planets like uranus and neptune are conviniently made out of the necessary fuel sources, like water, hydrogen, and what all else.

I think a faster than light drive of some kind is only a matter of time and money away, and contact with whatever life is on other worlds will come shortly therafter.

In short: yes.
 

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Thunderhitler said:
bowserboy26578 said:
pantsoffdanceoff said:
I think there are aliens but we will go extinct before we ever know about them.
way to stay positive
Don't sass him. Way to spam this forum by making another thread after your other one failed miserably once I took control.

Aliens exist, it would be simple minded not to think so. NASA should be all about making a moon base and missile defense, not taking pictures on a rocky plane.
i'm just pointing out that we can't anticipate if we'll contact any form of life. his/ her point is just deprssing, i'm not sassing. now stop following me.
 

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Thunderhitler said:
bowserboy26578 said:
pantsoffdanceoff said:
I think there are aliens but we will go extinct before we ever know about them.
way to stay positive
Don't sass him. Way to spam this forum by making another thread after your other one failed miserably once I took control.
Keep the flaming to a minimum.
This forum doesn't need any unnecessary drama caused by USI.
 

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SODAssault said:
Thunderhitler said:
bowserboy26578 said:
pantsoffdanceoff said:
I think there are aliens but we will go extinct before we ever know about them.
way to stay positive
Don't sass him. Way to spam this forum by making another thread after your other one failed miserably once I took control.
Keep the flaming to a minimum.
This forum doesn't need any unnecessary drama caused by USI.
thank you mr. leon pictured person. flaming is what ruined my last post. so back top the matter at hand...
 

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It reminds me of ancient Greece. There must must be monsters over there! Just beyond the horizon, just beyond where anybody can reach. Now our monsters come from space.

Compare Star Trek with the Odyssey. A lost ship travels odd planet/island to planet/island while the captain sleeps with the women and the red shirts die.