All male Fox News panel freak out over the numbers of women providing the main income in households

[Ace O'Hagen]

Oh wow, that was hilarious, I love how they managed to bring abortion into this also. "And its hurting our children." "And those are the children who survive, 54 million abortions." Fucken wow, all that's missing is they bitching about immigration and how Obama is hitler and this would be the perfect fox piece.

well, if they're going to play the dog whistle only old white men can hear, they might as well try and play as many of them as they can

 

[Terminate421]

These people remind me of that scene from Anchorman where they MUST read off the teleprompter.

Except they are aware of it.

 

[Imp_Emissary]

He's saying that human beings are built to function in certain roles. That's not discriminatory, that's just a fact.

We was not built to travel in to space either. Everything up there will kill you. We was not built to reach the great depths of the oceans. Yet there we are. In a modern society we don't care much for old silly notions and where I live, even less so about gender roles. Fox News is an embarrassment to the US. Here in Norway they are the laughing stock of the American media.

How odd. In the U.S., many people like to laugh at Fox too.

Guess were all not so different in this big world, eh?

 

[Erttheking]

I'm just pointing out that they didn't feel the need to bring in a woman to these gender based matter.

It's probably just the normal panel that would have said any number of other retarded, archaic nonsense.

Calling them out on their sex is just pointless flagellation.

They said something incredibly stupid, they're Fox. That goes with the territory.

Who gives a shit?

"Shrugs" it was a detail I thought was worth mentioning and no one else seems to have a problem with it.

Because most of this website is terrified of being called sexist for pointing out the obvious.

....Not sure what you're trying to say here.

 

[Adam Jensen_v1legacy]

No one takes Fox News seriously anyway, aside from some old white dudes.

They also share such pearls of wisdom as "something going terribly wrong in American society, and it's hurting our children, and it's going to have impact for generations to come"

I just love that they said this. Yes, something is going terribly wrong in American society, and it's hurting the children and it's going to have a negative impact for generations to come.

And it has nothing to do with women, and everything to do with crony capitalism and corrupt politicians.

You know what these Foxtards are really afraid of? Not being good enough for an average American woman. If an average woman in America can earn enough to raise a child on her own, to be independent, that increases the standard of competency for men. In order to attract a woman you'd need to be a really awesome dude, not some incompetent little prick like the majority of Fox News fans.
I think it's awesome that women are finally able to earn enough money to stay independent if that's what they want. Isn't that what gender equality is about?

 

[Nantucket_v1legacy]

But I was raised in a family with two brothers who were raised to have a good work ethic. Whereas my brothers were never expected to do their laundry, make their beds or clean their bedrooms: I was. And yes it was because I was a woman. My mother told me at some point in life I would marry and the man would work all week, like my own dad, and someone would have to look after him and whatever kids came along. Like I sad, I was raised in a strict Conservatory family.

That sounds terrible to me, cruel even. I was raised in a family where if you made a mess, you cleaned it up. What you did you were responsible for. We were all expected to share the work, and all expected to help each other. We operated on a system of respect and responsibility, not on hierarchy and "duties." If there was any duty it was to do whatever needed to be done. Nobody was too high or low for any job, and every job that needed to be done was within everyone's jurisdiction.

I mean, what did your brothers do when they moved out? Did they know how to make beds? Did they leave them unmade all the time? Or do they not move out until they've got a wife to do that? I hope this doesn't sound too insulting, but I don't get how you can raise someone to be a functioning human being that way. It doesn't make sense. You can't function in the real world properly if you don't know how to live without someone to make your bed. I have a friend who's a nurse who's been working with a lot of old people, and she says that's actually a big problem with old men. They get in that "you do this and I do that" lifestyle and if their wife dies first they don't know what to do with themselves. Their family put them in nursing homes because they don't know how to cook a nutritious meal, or they just stop cleaning and doing their wash.

My mom and dad both worked, and both still work, and I have no idea how we would have made it if they hadn't. I don't even understand how that's financially possible, especially these days, at least without giving up a lot of my current standard of living. I feel like that sort of a lifestyle would only be living half a life, and not even the half that belongs to me. I know I shouldn't, but I do feel sorry for you. I promise I'm usually not this pejorative, but this is something I was raised with and one of the few things I simply cannot understand the opposite of. There are so many things I understand. I can understand some people enjoy polyamorous relationships, I understand some people like a drink to unwind, I understand some people enjoy recreational drugs. But I simply cannot understand this. There is no upside to living like that, living to be half a human requiring another half just so you can function properly. If there's any approach to life I would call unnatural and upsetting, it would be that.

Don't worry, I don't find it at all insulting. I constantly argued with my mother because it was unfair and "just because they had a willy they could get away with everything".

My childhood was not cruel at all though. I got everything I ever wanted and I get on get with my parents. It's just a cultural thing I suppose. If my brothers made a mess in the kitchen they would be expected to wipe the sides down. It was just domestic tasks such as washing, ironing, bed making, hovering and cleaning the bathroom.

My oldest brother actually adapted very well. When he first moved out he did live in mild squalor but he soon adapted and started to clean it. It was never as clean as our house but that's only because my mum is a clean nut. I remember once she was out of commission from an operation and she'd grumble at me if I polished around the ornaments and didn't lift them.

My older brother is now married with two kids and works a 40 hour week. His wife doesn't do anything (cook or clean) and it's all down to him. She does not work and I in some way resent her for not being a housewife. If you're not going to work then fit your role. Yes, care for the children but you should also put the hoover around the house when the children go to nursery in the morning. Basically - get off Twitter.

Am I a bad person for expecting her to be a housewife? I don't think so. If you're going to stay at home all day then look after the household.

My middle brother is going to struggle.
He can't cook or clean but he also has learning disabilities so my mother coddles him that. I doubt he'd ever leave home.

I don't want you to feel sorry for me though. Why should you? I'm not tied up in a cage haha.
I'm looking forward to settling down with a husband and some children when I'm older. So I'll quit work? Fine. I don't see being a housewife as a negative thing at all. I don't think househusbands are a 'negative' thing but they are strange. I think its alien and lazy (I know I know.. hypocritical and sexist on my part) for a man to stay home all day. Men work and women have a choice.

Edit--

I'd also like to add:

My mum and dad raised me brilliantly and that also contributes to why I want to have my own family. My mum inspires me and although you find it cruel: she was the best damn mother I could ever wish for.

My parents are still very much in love today the same as they were 28 years ago. That to me is success. Not a career... being with the person you love for 28 years, still going strong and creating a great family unit is sucessful.

 

[Imp_Emissary]

I'm just pointing out that they didn't feel the need to bring in a woman to these gender based matter.

It's probably just the normal panel that would have said any number of other retarded, archaic nonsense.

Calling them out on their sex is just pointless flagellation.

They said something incredibly stupid, they're Fox. That goes with the territory.

Who gives a shit?

What's that slogan Fox gave itself? "Fair and Balanced", right?

Well, you would think when they talk about women they would have some women there to talk about the issues.

It's not like they haven't before.
:/ I wonder how much is "too much" for her?

I doubt it even occurred to them.

But to be honest, if that woman is happy to blame women for rape, I don't see her disagreeing with any other bullshit Fox asks her to say.

That's kind of what I'm talking about.
Fox can't even do this kind of shit well. I mean, come on! If you're going to be evil, ya can at least be smart about it.

 

[Xdeser2]

Once again, FOX News proves itself to be a positive social and cultural milestone in human achievement

Hooooooooly Shit. Never change FOX, never change...xD

(Im kind of ashamed that some of my family takes half of the shit they say on that channel seriously...)

 

[shootthebandit]

Heres my take on things. for years women have been gold digging but know its our turn as men. Im not ashamed to admit id love a rich older woman who made all the money while i sat at home sleeping and playing video games

Its about time we had it our way

Fuck me this guy's a genius.

Time to get me a suga mamma.

Hahah

Damn straight! preferable a rich lawyer or buisness type cougar who does pilates and jogging to keep their body tight. Even better if they are rich enough to have had fake jubblies

If you disagree there is something wrong with you

 

[Darken12]

*snip*

My professional recommendation is that you take actual college-level biology classes. You might actually learn a thing or two about nature there.

 

[TheRaggedQueen]

He's saying that human beings are built to function in certain roles. That's not discriminatory, that's just a fact.

We was not built to travel in to space either. Everything up there will kill you. We was not built to reach the great depths of the oceans. Yet there we are. In a modern society we don't care much for old silly notions and where I live, even less so about gender roles. Fox News is an embarrassment to the US. Here in Norway they are the laughing stock of the American media.

I'm sure that there's something Norwegian that we Americans would laugh at, too. You know, if Norway did anything important enough for us to ever notice.

What, like their 100% literacy rate? Their .6% homicide rate? They might not do anything "important" but they've got their shit together, unlike us.

 

[Dragonbums]

Disintegration of families?

Break down of society?

Damaging to our kids?

Seriously?
Does me making more money than my would be spouse "destroy" the social norm?
How do they know these families are disturbed? Did they ask them?
How do they know they are in competition? Did they ask the fathers?
How many men in those situations actually give two hoots about it?
How many kids give two hoots about it?

Don't get me started on the point jumping.
54 million abortions, and somehow non existent children are having a negative affect on High School dropouts? What?

And did that guy really reference a biology paper he wrote all the way back in 1965? Really? Really?

This is a whole nother level of dumb.

 

[Lilani]

-snip-

I'm glad you and they are happy with the way they live, but the vernacular you're using still freaks me out a bit. Like, "If you're not going to work then fit your role." Helping out around the house when you don't have a job isn't "fitting a role," it's called being a decent human being. If you love someone you want to help them in every way you can. And you help out because you're there and you love them, not because you looked down and noticed you had the set of genitals that makes you better equipped to dust and mop.

If that means using the vacuum, then so be it, even if you have man parts. My mom broke her ankle and was virtually immobile for six weeks a couple of years ago. In that time, my dad did the cooking and the cleaning and the laundry. While she generally does more of that work than him (mostly because he doesn't do it the way she likes), it wasn't any sort of a perceived "role reversal." Nothing changed about their relationship. She was it need, and he helped. He wasn't doing her any favors and he wasn't fulfilling her "role," he was just doing what needed to be done. What always needs to be done.

It just seems unnecessarily divisive to me. Doing work at home doesn't make you a "housewife" or a "househusband," it just means you're doing what needs to get done. Nothing's strange or unnatural about that. There isn't anything inherently feminine about doing dishes or vacuuming. Frankly, I see that sort of thinking as a lazy excuse for men to not do those things. And that's pretty much how my entire family sees it, as well. When I grew up I vacuumed my room and made my bed, but I also helped mow the lawn and move wood into the house for our fireplace. And other times my brother did those same things as well. Nobody had an excuse not to do a certain kind of work, and nobody was exempted from certain work or had more of certain types of work to do just because they were a boy or a girl.

In fact, my mom refused to breastfeed both myself and my brother when we were babies. She only used formula, and said it was because she didn't want to be the only one staying up half the night for a feed. She made sure those duties were split between the two, and my dad was perfectly willing to jump in and help.

Two people who are married are not two halves of some shape that gets completed when the halves are put together. People are their own whole, distinct, and unique shapes which are perfectly capable of handling themselves on their own. Being together simply puts both shapes together into an even bigger shape with even more potential.

 

[Axolotl]

A THING IS THE THING WHICH IT IS.

Any male who neglects that responsibility is no man.

I was going to do an indepth line by line rebuttal to your post but then I realised I could just leave these two sentances to show that you can't even stay consistent with your own nonsense ideology.

If you're interested I could explain exactly how and why you're wrong but for now I'll say that you have no idea what you're talking about.

 

[Ryotknife]

My mom and dad both worked, and both still work, and I have no idea how we would have made it if they hadn't. I don't even understand how that's financially possible, especially these days, at least without giving up a lot of my current standard of living. I feel like that sort of a lifestyle would only be living half a life, and not even the half that belongs to me. I know I shouldn't, but I do feel sorry for you. I promise I'm usually not this pejorative, but this is something I was raised with and one of the few things I simply cannot understand the opposite of. There are so many things I understand. I can understand some people enjoy polyamorous relationships, I understand some people like a drink to unwind, I understand some people enjoy recreational drugs. But I simply cannot understand this. There is no upside to living like that, living to be half a human requiring another half just so you can function properly. If there's any approach to life I would call unnatural and upsetting, it would be that.

meh, daycare can get obscenely expensive in the US, to the point where it is financially beneficial for one person to stay at home (at least until you can ship the kids off to school). Of course, ive been seeing more and more lately of grandparents stepping into this role, which I think is great. Gets them more involved with the grandparents and helps the parents out both emotionally, financially, and..err...romantically I guess.

giving up your job has downsides obviously. Puts you 6 years behind on raises or whatnot (if you are lucky). In terms of standard of living, depends entirely on the salaries. Personally, I know quite a few couples that are now entering this territory. Both parents working (in these cases) is either a financial loss or neutral and basically comes down to preference rather than needs.

 

[KR4U55]

As a non american, I've neves watched Fox News in my life, I've only seen some comments and stuff lying around the internet and the Mass Effect scandal a few years back, but now and here, those were probably the biggest assholes I've ever seen in open TV.

I mean, what the serious eff. I understand some people are worried with this, "oh women now control 'Murica", but why is this a bad thing?