All Men Cheat

[Colour Scientist]

This morning, my friends and I were having coffee and a chat whilst recovering from a late night out. Naturally, the conversation centered on the events of the night before

One of the girls had gone home with this guy she's been regularly having sex with for a few weeks (fine so far), the problem is that this guy has a girlfriend in the US and is moving over to live with her in the next few days. This guy has been with his girlfriend for years and she obviously has no idea about what's going on here.
Lately, this girl has developed a "taste" for men in relationships, she honestly has some sort of radar and she's certainly clocked up a high number of them.

Rather than feeling guilty about what she's doing, she seems almost proud of it, as if she's somehow one-upping the other girls and making them look stupid. Her rationale is that "all men cheat" and seems to think that by fucking other people's boyfriends she's ahead of the game, in on a secret other girls are blind to. This didn't go down to well at the time, especially considering the fact that basically every other person in the room at the time was in a relationship.

Now, I find her view-point unsettling for many reasons and I don't think that it's true. Obviously people cheat all the time but the idea that a man, when presented with sex, is almost powerless to refuse and will inevitably cheat is a tad depressing. I'd hate to genuinely believe that men are physically and mentally incapable of keeping it in their pants.

That ended up being more long-winded than I had intended so I'll get to the questions.

What do you think of her opinion? Do you agree with it? Are you insulted by it or are you a living example of it?

As a bonus question, have you ever cheated/been cheated on?

OH! Before I forget, I guess I have to include the obligatory gif, it seems to be all the rage now.

EDIT: Huh, turns out I made a similar thread like a year and a half ago. My life is stuck on a loop!

 

[General Twinkletoes]

If she seriously thinks all men cheat, I have to wonder if she's actually met many men?

I know it's already been posted, but....

I don't think that gif can be overused in this situation.

 

[Kordie]

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Wait, what?

Are you really asking this, if we thing all men cheat? Are you for real?

The needs some motherfucking fillion.

My answer is no.

EDIT Wow, just wow. I mean, they spout bullshit and you have to ask if anyone else believe it. Should I make a thread saying "hey, the KKK hate black people. Do you hate them too?"

Quoted for truth and more fillion.

Honest opinion? No not ever guy cheats, though a fair number do. So do a lot of women I know. Your friends view on men is flat out wrong. As well, she will have a hell of a time ever having a long term relationship because she will either cheat on her boyfriend and screw it up, or develop serious trust issues.

 

[Colour Scientist]

Wait, what?

Are you really asking this, if we thing all men cheat? Are you for real?

The needs some motherfucking fillion.

My answer is no.

EDIT Wow, just wow. I mean, they spout bullshit and you have to ask if anyone else believe it. Should I make a thread saying "hey, the KKK hate black people. Do you hate them too?"

No, I asked what you think of her opinion. That someone could have that belief.

Jesus dude, chill the fucking beans.

 

[Daystar Clarion]

Hi.

I'm Daystar Clarion.

You may know me from such social statuses as 'I've been with the same girl since I was 15', and 'Love is playing Borderlands coop with your significant other, then having sex with her'.

And I didn't cheat in any of them

 

[Erttheking]

Hi.

I'm Daystar Clarion. You may know me from such social statuses as 'I've been with the same girl since I was 15', and 'Love is playing Borderlands coop with your significant other, then having sex with her'.

And I didn't cheat in any of them.

"Looks up" Sigh, at least Daystar isn't forever alone.

OT: No, not all men cheat, I am a man and I haven't cheaten on anyone, because I can't get into a relationship to cheat on anyone.

 

[hazabaza1]

I'm gonna have to mimic these Nathan Fillion gifs, at least spiritually.
Saying "All men cheat" is as valid as saying "All women cheat." It's obviously false and stupid and anyone who says it is a fucking idiot.

 

[shrekfan246]

Jesus dude, chill the fucking beans.

Chilled beans are pretty disgusting.

Just Saiyan.

Also, your friend sounds pretty crazy, to use the... nicest word of which I'm thinking.

As for the bonus, yeah, I've cheated and I've been cheated on, but I'm not really sure if high school couplings really count, and since I left high school I've... been in too complicated of a situation to know whether anything would be considered cheating or not, to say nothing of the fact that I've basically been a hermit the last two years and so it hasn't mattered anyway. At this point I'd wager it's closer to the realm of "not cheating".

For how I am right now, I'd say I'm not the type of person to go and cheat on somebody unless I'm really unhappy in the relationship, at which point I'll probably end it anyway because it's not really worth being in a relationship that's so bad that you'll cheat on the person just... out of spite/anger/depression/etc.

This is really probably painting me as a terrible person with whom to be in a relationship.

EDIT: You know, sometimes it's a lot simpler to end sentences in prepositions. Even as an aspiring writer, I've never understood why people dislike it so much.

 

[Colour Scientist]

I'm gonna have to mimic these Nathan Fillion gifs, at least spiritually.
Saying "All men cheat" is as valid as saying "All women cheat." It's obviously false and stupid and anyone who says it is a fucking idiot.

Yeah, I was mainly looking for stories and opinions on her actions and whatnot. It all failed pretty miserably, I guess I got distracted by story-telling.

 

[Phasmal]

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Ugh, I've known a similar reasoning which is just as messed up: `All men cheat, so I can cheat, all men cheat they're just better at it so if you don't think they're cheating you're wrong.`.
Bleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeugh.

The reason I bring it up is because I'm sure people convince themselves of both of these things so they can feel like they are ahead of the game and they wont be fooled like everyone else. As in- all men cheat so I'm not really doing a bad thing by cheating on/with someone.
A way to protect themselves from getting hurt and excuse their shitty behaviour at the same time.

I've never cheated or been cheated on (been accused of cheating but that was bullshit).
I always think, if you are unhappy enough to cheat, you are unhappy enough to leave. So why not just leave?
Seems cowardly (Oh, and don't get me started on the people who go `Oh, yeah, it's terrible of me. I'm so awful. I'm gonna do it some more`- I do not cater to pity parties).

Does make me think, though- who do we consider worse?
The cheater (one in the relationship) or the cheatee (one they cheat with)?
I'd always blame the cheater more, because they made the commitment, but a lot of people just go for the cheatee.

 

[Froggy Slayer]

All...men? What is this madness that you speak of? A broad generalization based around gender? I LIKE WHERE THIS THREAD IS GOING!

 

[Sara Fontaine]

While it is true that there are men around who just can't say no when it's offered, there are just as many who can. The same goes for women. Your friend's idea that no man can refuse sex is wrong, and her lack of guilt is a little concerning, as is her 'taste' for people already committed. I'd be keeping an eye on her, personally. But going by her logic, does that mean that if she entered into an exclusive, serious relationship with a guy that she truly loved and he cheated on her, she'd be perfectly fine with it since 'all men cheat'?

I've been cheated on twice in the past, in two separate relationships. The first time it hurt like hell, but the second I kind of saw it coming so it just gave me the final push I needed to tell him to bugger off.

I know that my current partner has had offers of sex from other people, because he tells me about them (or sometimes they're that bold they'll try to make a move while I'm nearby). He's turned them all down. Hell, he got offered a threesome whilst we were on holiday and he turned THAT down too. Am I lucky? Of course. Do I think he's unique? Of course not, there are plenty of guys and girls who will commit to a relationship. It's just that there's usually more noise about those who don't.

 

[Colour Scientist]

Does make me think, though- who do we consider worse?
The cheater (one in the relationship) or the cheatee (one they cheat with)?
I'd always blame the cheater more, because they made the commitment, but a lot of people just go for the cheatee.

Well, the way I see it, the cheater is worse because they're the one with the commitment to their significant other. As for the cheatee, it's a really shitty thing to do but unless you know the third person involved you don't have any loyalties.

It's a total dick move but the cheater is betraying someone they're supposed to care about.

 

[Fiz_The_Toaster]

I can't stand that attitude to be honest and I don't think I'd ever understand it.

What a mighty generalization though, it's the stuff that makes kittens cry, and that's not cool.

Besides, men don't cheat, only boys do.

Anyways, I've never been cheated on, the reason being I have to be in a relationship first for that to happen.... And now I feel sad.

 

[shrekfan246]

Anyways, I've never been cheated on, the reason being I have to be in a relationship first for that to happen.... And now I feel sad.

[sub]Wait, what else do I have to add to the topic at hand? Must... think... of... something... on... topic...[/sub]

Real Men[sup]TM[/sup] wear pink don't cheat.

 

[Fiz_The_Toaster]

Anyways, I've never been cheated on, the reason being I have to be in a relationship first for that to happen.... And now I feel sad.

[sub]Wait, what else do I have to add to the topic at hand? Must... think... of... something... on... topic...[/sub]

Real Men[sup]TM[/sup] wear pink don't cheat.

That reminds me that I have to catch up on Episodes after watching that.....

Anyways, but that's why I said men don't cheat, only boys do.

Real Men[sup]TM[/sup] would never do that.

 

[Cheesepower5]

I can't count the number of times I've cheated. The only time I really regret cheating was on my first though. If you're out there Patty I'm sorry...



I'm sorry I cheated on that spelling quiz.



What, you mean like sex? No, never.

 

[gazumped]

I've heard this from a girl, not in the "so I might as well be the one they're cheating with" sense, but in the "we may as well all resign ourselves to the fact that we'll never have a faithful partner" sense
which was bloody heartbreaking.

I mean, I feel like most if not all people of either gender *could* cheat... even the nicest person, probably, could be coming to terms with the fact that they weren't actually that into their partner, for example, were maybe in love with someone else, and it happened before their relationship officially ended. I imagine most people have the capacity for something like that, but it certainly doesn't mean they WILL do it, especially if they never end up in a relationship that rubbish.
To imagine that no guy is ever going to care about you enough to be faithful and to stay with you? I'd say that's pretty heartbreaking.

As for this girl in the OP's story, although her 'all men cheat' excuse is obviously BS, obviously all the guys she's ending up with cheat, so she's at least correct about those ones. However, she's not going to come out on the justified end of this unless she then notifies the girlfriends/wives that their partner's been getting it on with another woman, so that these ladies can dump his arse and find a guy who cares more about them than that.

As for the bonus question, I've never cheated and never been cheated on, but my last boyfriend warned me that he was liable to cheat on me with this other girl he'd been crazy about for years, if she offered. No I don't know why I didn't break up with him as it should have been obvious then that I just didn't match up to this girl in his eyes, but he broke up with me a year later and was soon chasing after her once again. (And she's clearly not interested and never has been...)