Am I a hipster?
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I wouldn't worry about it to be honest. See "hipsters" are people who are trying to be on the cutting edge of mainstream cool, and there are a lot of them. The pop culture embraced by hipsters is called POPular culture for a reason. Most people who are like this, are pretty much socially well adjusted, and have a lot of friends who chase the same trends and so on.
The people who talk down about hipsters (like me) are pretty much those from the fringes of society. The nerds, geeks, outcasts, intellectuals, etc... such people are what they are due to not liking, or fitting in with the mainstream, never mind worrying about trying to embody the culture of the moment.
The big thing here is that if you've got friends, and are happy, why do you care what the fringe thinks?
I'll also be honest in saying that while the US has Hipsters, most "Hipsters" are from other countries. Like it or not the USA has the most powerful and prevelant culture on the planet. It's been said in the past that we've done more to successfully conquer the world with Hollywood movies, Starbucks, and The Big Mac than anyone has with a military. While this will change if the USA's place in the world does, it's the big American cities that actually wind up setting what becomes trends. Ideas might originate elsewhere, but if the USA embraces it, then it goes global due to it being piped to the four corners of the globe through movies, TV shows, music videos, and whatever else.
While it's old the quintessential example of the phenomena was the old show "Melrose Place" (and to a lesser extent the rest of Aaron Spelling's body of work as well), what was seen being worn in that show wound up being what everyone wanted to wear. This lead to similar styles of clothing making the rounds through all of the various boutiques and specialty clothing stores.
Places like "Urban Outfitters" or to a lesser extent (now) "Hot Topic", specialize in trend clothing and whatever is currently big in pop culture. They are going to have looks very similar to what your seeing in current run TV shows and movies and so on. The point of stores like that is that for people who want to keep with the trends they can reliably assume what they buy is current to the moment (and that service is part of what the prices are about), you can get a lot of the same stuff cheaper if you know where to look, but it's touchy if things like that matter to you. For some people the extra $20 they spend on a pair of jeans is worth the social security.
Damnit, shokolate, we're trying to be serious here. Leave theShockolate said:
Well you've certainly got the look but it's really the attitude that determines whether you're a hipster or not. Do you hate anything new and look down on people who enjoy more popular music and games? Then you're guilty.
Ahh this is so strange,sometimes i catch myself worrying if i'm a hipster.
I wear a beanie hat,i have quite nerdy glasses (but i do need them,and i like them nerdy cause i like morrisey,i love the smiths)
I wear kind of normal clothing,converse,jeans,superhero t-shirts.
I love comicbooks and games,i do art and design at college but nothing too up my own arse.
I'm also a wimp.I listen to old bands but primarily radiohead and offspring.
Do i tick all the right boxes?
I wear a beanie hat,i have quite nerdy glasses (but i do need them,and i like them nerdy cause i like morrisey,i love the smiths)
I wear kind of normal clothing,converse,jeans,superhero t-shirts.
I love comicbooks and games,i do art and design at college but nothing too up my own arse.
I'm also a wimp.I listen to old bands but primarily radiohead and offspring.
Do i tick all the right boxes?
*sniff sniff* I smell hipster.
http://www.cracked.com/funny-4573-hipster/
This'll clear up any questions you might have about hipsterism.
http://www.cracked.com/funny-4573-hipster/
This'll clear up any questions you might have about hipsterism.
I guess its because I've always thought that if I was any sort of stereotype, I was a nerd. When I talk to the majority of my girlfriends about gaming they dont really give a crap. I've always loved gaming since I was little, and got into comic books when I was a teenager. I am totally addicted to RPGs and FPSs and i do crappy fan art and all that nerdy shit.Therumancer said:
If I've come across as the type of person who thinks that theyre awesome, it was totally unintentional.
Wheeey!sevreon said:I guess we're in the same boat mateBrazilianpeanutwar said:
To be honest noone's ever even called me a hipster,i'd be quite happy to have a label but i can live without :]
I alway got pissed off when people use 'ironically' in the place of 'sarcastically', but I actually googled it and loads of online dictionaries define ironically as meaning sarcastic. I thought I actually knew what the term ment, but apparently Im one of the many people who dont have a bloody clue!xdom125x said:
Are you a pretentious elitist who only listens to music that no-one has ever heard of, and if anyone other than you knows about a band the they are immediately 'sellouts' and crap?sevreon said:
If so, then you are a hipster. If not, then you are simply indie, like myself and many others. That's what it boils down to, basically. Hipsters are the crappy scum cousins of the more common, and decent, indie subculture, and are mostly pretentious and elitist with utter disdain for anything that could possibly be perceived in any way as being popular. Reading your post, you seem more 'indie' than 'hipster', and for that I congratulate you.
The Hipster criteria are roughly as follows:
1. You're into things "before they're cool".
2. You're into bands/things that "you've probably never heard of," are "totally underground," "haven't sold out yet," etc etc.
3. You use the above terms to describe your tastes with complete sincerity.
4. You pride yourself on the obscurity of your tastes, particularly your musical tastes.
5. You have two kinds of clothes: really cheap stuff, or really expensive (maybe designer) stuff, because "it's ironic."
5.1 Sub-point to the above. When saying "it's ironic," you don't actually know anything about irony. The use is neither the correct definition nor the generally used definition. You just thing it sounds erudite.
6. You look down and dislike things mainstream for no reason other than that they are mainstream.
7. You are really elitist and think people who listen to mainstream music or don't do what you do or don't have your take on the world are slovenly, unenlightened heathens.
So basically, if you listen to anything popular, know what "ironic" means, and respect other people's differing tastes, there's no way you're a hipster.
1. You're into things "before they're cool".
2. You're into bands/things that "you've probably never heard of," are "totally underground," "haven't sold out yet," etc etc.
3. You use the above terms to describe your tastes with complete sincerity.
4. You pride yourself on the obscurity of your tastes, particularly your musical tastes.
5. You have two kinds of clothes: really cheap stuff, or really expensive (maybe designer) stuff, because "it's ironic."
5.1 Sub-point to the above. When saying "it's ironic," you don't actually know anything about irony. The use is neither the correct definition nor the generally used definition. You just thing it sounds erudite.
6. You look down and dislike things mainstream for no reason other than that they are mainstream.
7. You are really elitist and think people who listen to mainstream music or don't do what you do or don't have your take on the world are slovenly, unenlightened heathens.
So basically, if you listen to anything popular, know what "ironic" means, and respect other people's differing tastes, there's no way you're a hipster.
You don't have to be from the U.S. to be a hipster, both Manchester and Toronto have quite a large supply of these guys, so it's not just an American phenomenon. It's more in the attitude you present yourself with than your actual interests that will make people attack you with the "Hipster" label, so here's a quick little checklist:
1) You use the term "ironic" for everything you do. Like everything. Like fucking everything.
2) You namedrop the obscure bands, films, books, directors, authors, etc. that you're into, not for the sake of describing your interests, but so that you can show everybody how much better you are because you avoid the mainstream and are "deep and sophisticated."
3) You act like a condescending deuche towards people who don't express an interest in these finer arts.
4) You get hard-ons for local bands.
5) You sit in coffee shops and smoke, usually indulging in one of the arts from #2.
6) You generally walk around with a air of smug pretentiousness.
Of course there are other red flags for hipsters, but if you don't fit into most of these categories you should be fine.
1) You use the term "ironic" for everything you do. Like everything. Like fucking everything.
2) You namedrop the obscure bands, films, books, directors, authors, etc. that you're into, not for the sake of describing your interests, but so that you can show everybody how much better you are because you avoid the mainstream and are "deep and sophisticated."
3) You act like a condescending deuche towards people who don't express an interest in these finer arts.
4) You get hard-ons for local bands.
5) You sit in coffee shops and smoke, usually indulging in one of the arts from #2.
6) You generally walk around with a air of smug pretentiousness.
Of course there are other red flags for hipsters, but if you don't fit into most of these categories you should be fine.