Hobonicus said:
Science can never technically prove anything, even gravity is just a theory.
I am well aware of this. Science can however disprove something, or at least put forward a more logical theory, in some cases it has done this, in others it has not.
There are instances of paranormal activity that science cannot explain only because there wasn't a scientist around to document it. Those "paranormal activities" themselves only exist because of a lack of contextual evidence that would have proven them false was it available at the time.
So what you're basically telling me is that for scientists to disprove an instance of paranormal activity, they have to be physically present at the time? As I've already said, there are many kooks out there who want attention and money. But there are still instances of people giving accurate predictions, if science could come up with a theory for that then fine.
And no I don't consider people like John Edwards evidence for psychic ability, I have read about the techniques that can be used to replicate his performances and am convinced that they are the more likely occurence.
For example, I am confident in saying that God doesn't exist; he's a fictional creation that we made. There are hundreds of references to this in history and if you've pursued even a little bit of religious history studies you'd see where I'm coming from in the whole not believing thing. So would you say I'm arrogant to assume God doesn't exist, something I can't possibly know 100%? Am I certain that gravity is caused by mass and not by some divine being that wants us to think it's caused by mass? Am I arrogant because I believe in gravity?
I think you're arrogant to claim God doesn't exist. To assume he doesn't exist is perfectly understandable. You just stated that you can't know it 100%, and you also used the words "don't believe" rather than saying God doesn't exist, your own words are (eventually) open minded enough, its just unfortunate that you then take your beliefs and assumptions and claim that they are factual (or close enough to factual that we can claim they are).
We aren't talking about gravity here. I think you'll find most theists will happily agree with the theories put forward for gravity. The only difference is science just says why it happens whilst theists believe that God made it that way.
God, and some paranormal activity aren't like gravity. Gravity has a rather sound theory to it, put forward y science, what we're discussing doesn't always share this. If someone steps forward and claims they are a psychic, then I will say "oh that's interesting" and observe until I:
a) lose interest
b) science provides an alternate theory
c) I observe something which provides fuel for disbelief
Its not belief, but its an unwillingness to disbelieve until given adequate reason.
Pretending that you're so open-minded you'd accept the possibility of anything is ridiculous.
Good thing then that "anything" is not an accurate description of what I accept (and there you go claiming I'm pretending again, trust me, if I was pretending I wouldn't be wasting this much time discussing this. Also you constantly telling me what I do believe and what I "pretend" to believe is also arrogant).
Flying Spaghetti Monster - Its a religion created to mock other religions, its for this reason (amongst others to numerous to count) that I do not believe in it.
Scientology - A religion created by a man who believed he could make more money from religion than writing his science fiction novels... gee I wonder.
Judaism/Christianity - A religion which potentially originated in ancient Egypt during a time when they ditched the whole pantheon idea and went with a single god (Aten I think it was), it was later divided by the appearance of a supposed son of God (Jesus) who historical records show "may" have actually existed. Now while this potential link to Egyptian mythology implies there are probably many inaccuracies in the Bible it also shows that it has links to the real world (the historical records of a massive flood coinciding with the story of Noah being another potential link).
Basically I see no reason to be able to state with confidence that God does not exist, it may be that no living person ever will be able to accurately make that claim (or its counter claim). Because of this, its perfectly acceptable to rely on belief to sway your opinion, so long as you realise that your belief does not equal fact.