Am I the only one still likes Nintendo?

[APLovecraft]

I proper loved skyward sword, in fact that and last story are the only reason I,ve had to play my wii in the last year or so. But I'm bored of constant re-hashs of older titles nintendo need to do something different and wonky controllers are'nt the answer.

 

[General Twinkletoes]

I don't think the nintendo hate is as large on this site as it looks at first, it's just a very, very loud minority. I still like Nintendo, and I know lots of people on this forum do.

Therefore, the Nintendo hate on the site is large. Almost anyone who talks about Nintendo hates on it. And only what's put on the site is on the site.

I said loud, not big. Look in a lot of the Wii U threads after it came out It's generally well regarded. Same with that pokemon threads after X and Y were announced, most of the things in there are positive too. I don't know what threads you're reading where "almost every body hates on Nintendo"

 

[Something Amyss]

Ignoring the pedantry of "you're never the only one," Nintendo has some of the most rabid, die hard, obsessive fans and they are legion.

Paper Mario: Sticker star was different, yes, but that doesn't make it a bad game.

People haven't particularly been saying the fact it's different is what makes it a "bad" game.

Finally, Nintendo seems to firmly operate on the "the old days were better" strategy, too. This is why they re-release so many games as system sellers. Seems an odd thing to complain about the gamers doing if the company itself does it.

 

[Sylveria]

I like Nintendo, I never had some fanatical love of them though despite being my first, second, and third consoles.

I don't like the motion control gimmick. I never have and I probably never will. I've had a Wii for about 6 months and the handful of games I have for it either don't use the motion controls or use them in very limited capacity.

I also don't like the people who think Nintendo should be excused for everything they do wrong and think everything they produce is pure gold. Of course, I can say that for almost any obsessive fandom from Sonic to Square Enix. On a similar note, I think a lot of people lower their standards when it comes to Nintendo and games on their machines. I think there's a lot of "great" games on the Wii that should really be called "Great for a Wii game" because on any other console their competition would be much steeper.

 

[Something Amyss]

I said loud, not big. Look in a lot of the Wii U threads after it came out It's generally well regarded. Same with that pokemon threads after X and Y were announced, most of the things in there are positive too. I don't know what threads you're reading where "almost evary body hates on Nintendo"

As long as I get my Pokémon fix every couple of years, Nintendo gets a pass from me. I neither love nor hate them, but yeah, I follow the Pokémon threads and there's been a lot of positivity.

Not consistent with everyone hating them.

 

[Sylveria]

Paper Mario: Sticker star was different, yes, but that doesn't make it a bad game.

People haven't particularly been saying the fact it's different is what makes it a "bad" game.

Indeed. I'd say it being one of the most bare-bones and shallow RPG experiences ever is what makes it "bad", for me anyway.

 

[Epona]

Paper Mario: Sticker star was different, yes, but that doesn't make it a bad game.

People haven't particularly been saying the fact it's different is what makes it a "bad" game.

Indeed. I'd say it being one of the most bare-bones and shallow RPG experiences ever is what makes it "bad", for me anyway.

It's a game about inventory management with some heart pieces thrown in.

 

[Genocidicles]

I like their games (except Mario... But then I never liked him).

I just don't like some silly controller taking me out of the game. If all their games came with an option to use the 'normal' controller (what was it called? Classic or Pro? Something like that?) I wouldn't have a problem with them at all.

 

[StBishop]

Protip: You're never the only one.

OT: I've never really dug Nintendo, I only ever owned their handhelds (because they're the best at it) and the only games I buy are Pokemon/Final Fantasy ones.

 

[geizr]

Honestly, looking at some of the comments here, I can't help but see a bunch of jaded cynics complaining about how far Nintendo has fallen, etc, but to me it really just sounds like a bunch of old fogeys complaining "back in MY day, things were better!"

Am I the only one that actually thinks Nintendo is still doing spectacularly well and still generally makes great games?

Paper Mario: Sticker star was different, yes, but that doesn't make it a bad game. The writing, as always, was enjoyable, and the gameplay, though simplified, was still very enjoyable, and much more well-suited for the portable 3DS as opposed to the more in-depth console titles.

Kid Icarus: Uprising just so happens to be one of my new favorite action games, and despite what other people seem to say, I've never really had much issue with the controls at all. I'd gotten used to holding the stylus while moving with the control pad halfway through the first chapter, and if I was feeling any discomfort, I was having too much fun with the game to notice.

Skyward Sword is now my favorite Zelda game of all time. Yes, even more so than Wind Waker or *gasp* Ocarina of Time. Sure, Fi was annoying sometimes, but like Navi, it's fairly easy to simply ignore her and still have a good time. The game was more linear, but that's arguably what makes it the best in my mind. Instead of exploring vast swaths of empty landscape with little to do, every area of the overworld involved solving puzzles in order to move forward. Dungeons are the best part of any Zelda game, and in Skyward sword every part of the map was a dungeon. The sprint meter made movement much easier and more natural, and the upgrade system gave some extra depth to the standard items. And then there were the motion controls, which unlike many other games before, were responsive, felt natural, and gave an added layer of strategy to defeating even the smallest enemies. And did I mention they were responsive? Unlike many games on the Wii before, Skyward Sword's motion controls worked. It was basically everything that I had imagined from the Wii when it had launched, and that's saying a lot.

The biggest problem with the Internet is that you're often only seeing the opinion of a tiny vocal minority composed entirely of rage-nerds being expressed. This can cause distorted perceptions of real nature of public opinion, which is often more balanced and centrist, overall. There are plenty of people that still like Nintendo and like the games on Nintendo systems. It's likely they are more concerned with getting on with their lives, enjoying themselves, and enjoying the games they play rather than waste time on the Internet all the time trying to force everyone to their particular world-view in a vain attempt to validate their own choices.

What I am getting at here is if you like Nintendo, like the games on the system, and enjoy and have fun playing the games, then don't bother yourself with what everyone else thinks of it; otherwise, you'll quickly find yourself a slave to other people's opinions and preferences and won't have a mind and life of your own. As a perfect example, I absolutely love Final Fantasy XIII. I find the story to be an interesting concept of free-will (the protagonist La Cie) vs. divine providence (the Fal Cie, in particular Orphan), and I've played through the game to completion 3 times now. Yes, the game has it's bad points and could use some editing to tighten things up a bit, but I still thoroughly enjoyed the game and don't give one iota what the rest of the Internet rage-nerds think on the issue (Yahtzee and his sycophants can go hang themselves).

Don't let your life and your ability to enjoy life be at the dictate of the opinion of others, especially not that of the Internet rage-nerds who need to grow-up and get over themselves, anyway. Choose your own way forward in life: what you do, what you believe, what you value, what you think is important, and what you enjoy. Be rational and clear in your choices, but make the choice knowing it is your choice and not the choice of others.

 

[userwhoquitthesite]

Skyward Sword is now my favorite Zelda game of all time. Yes, even more so than Wind Waker or *gasp* Ocarina of Time. Sure, Fi was annoying sometimes, but like Navi, it's fairly easy to simply ignore her and still have a good time. The game was more linear, but that's arguably what makes it the best in my mind. Instead of exploring vast swaths of empty landscape with little to do, every area of the overworld involved solving puzzles in order to move forward. Dungeons are the best part of any Zelda game, and in Skyward sword every part of the map was a dungeon. The sprint meter made movement much easier and more natural, and the upgrade system gave some extra depth to the standard items. And then there were the motion controls, which unlike many other games before, were responsive, felt natural, and gave an added layer of strategy to defeating even the smallest enemies. And did I mention they were responsive? Unlike many games on the Wii before, Skyward Sword's motion controls worked. It was basically everything that I had imagined from the Wii when it had launched, and that's saying a lot.

I was on your side until this. Skyward Sword is one of, if not the, worst game in the proper Zelda series.

That said, I do agree with your point about nintendo. Idiots like to whine about Nintendo ignoring its "core" audience. The thing is, Nintendo doesn't ignore its core audience, we just aren't it anymore. Nintendo's primary market is children. The biggest amount they make comes from kid-targeted candy-coated type games. As we get older, we stop being as willing to follow the adventures of a talking cartoon animal and his quest to Find All The Things, and become more willing to write off derpy platformers as shovelware.

 

[SextusMaximus]

Honestly, looking at some of the comments here, I can't help but see a bunch of jaded cynics complaining about how far Nintendo has fallen, etc, but to me it really just sounds like a bunch of old fogeys complaining "back in MY day, things were better!"

You DEFINITELY mean this site? I've seen little to none nintendo hate here.

 

[The White Hunter]

I empathize with you OP? On this site Nintendo fans are ranked somewhere between Nazi's and the AIDS virus. Stay strong my comrade.

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I'll take you all on if I must.

Definitely a Virus, we just gotta live with you and deal with your being annoying until you eventually are worn out and go away for a while! (Calm yourselves mods, this was a joke not an insult, go look for short posts.)

And you obviously aren't a REAL fan if you don't also own a DS, 3DS, Virtualboy, and a WiiU! ~.^

Everybody knows that real fans have a Mario plushy and an original gameboy > > pffft.


OT: I still like Nintendo but I do hope that when we get a Wii U Zelda, or a 3D Mario on the Wii u, they use some fresh ideas and don't produce the same sterile, forgettable experiences that we were delivered in Skyward Sword or Mario 3D Super Land. Or god help us all the new super mario bros titles, seriously I want something fresh, not a less-useful tanuki suit and the same level themes over and over.

BUt no, I do like Nintendo still, I own a 3DS and a few games, I still love pokemon, and I plan on buying a Wii U when the price drops a little bit.

I also love Sega. So I guess I'm not a real Nintendo fan, I have the Mega Drive and Sonic plushy to prove it....

 

[The White Hunter]

I was on your side until this. Skyward Sword is one of, if not the, worst game in the proper Zelda series.

That said, I do agree with your point about nintendo. Idiots like to whine about Nintendo ignoring its "core" audience. The thing is, Nintendo doesn't ignore its core audience, we just aren't it anymore. Nintendo's primary market is children. The biggest amount they make comes from kid-targeted candy-coated type games. As we get older, we stop being as willing to follow the adventures of a talking cartoon animal and his quest to Find All The Things, and become more willing to write off derpy platformers as shovelware.

Well I'm 21, and I still enjoy Sonic games and Mario platformers, they may be simple but a fun game is a fun game, and to rule out something just because it's primary market is children is silly. I do wish they'd make these games harder though, or throw us a difficult setting.

Something like: NES Fuckin' Hard, SNES Hard, N64 Normal, Gamecube Normal, Wii pathetically easy?

Skyward Sword is the worst zelda game I've ever played discounting the DS games because it's the most sterile and forgettable game I have ever played.

 

[Poetic Nova]

I'm one of those who thinks that the Gamecube is the last good thing Nintendo did. They went for the gimmick's (true GC had them 2 but were optional) and rehashing Mario.

 

[xPixelatedx]

Am I the only one that actually thinks Nintendo is still doing spectacularly well and still generally makes great games?

I am a fan of Nintendo, and I still buy the games and consoles. That said, they haven't been doing a very good job since the wii. They aren't doing terrible at all, but they have long since fallen off their ivory town. I could talk ALL DAY about the playable and amazing games on the NES, SNES, N64, and even the Game cube. There are some good wii games, but I can count them on both hands, and that barley justifies buying a wii. As nice as these games were, aside from brawl, I didn't like any of the franchise-incarnations of games the wii offered.

I think they do just as well as they have to. Now that Nintendo knows they can get money just by making 'passable' games, we won't get the legendary titles that will reverberate throughout gaming history anymore. The wii menu (both the great and the awful) will be forgotten 10 years from now, and no one will care. I think the wii-U library will be the same, but I have given them the opportunity to surprise me. Lets see if they do.

 

[xPixelatedx]

They allowed Samus to be turned into a bimbo retard, instead of the bad ass independent women she seemed to be.

Yeah, and it's not so much they allowed it, as they gave her to someone who did that. There is a reason why M and the prime games weren't made by Nintendo, it's because they don't really care for the Metroid franchise, they have said so numerous times that the following the Metroid franchise has is almost entierly western based, so they couldn't care less. The only reason why it';s always appearing in things like Smash bros and Nintendo land is because they don't have many recognizable franchises that have pulled in sales like Metroid. They just don't want to actually make another Metroid; they'll let other people do it for them. Same with Starfox and F-Zero; they couldn't care less and they act surprised when other people say they care.

 

[a7xman]

These questions hurt me. I want to love Nintendo, I really do, but they keep causing me pain. It's like a bad relationship. I love them as a company; where most of the market is looking into pay-for-multiplayer, Nintendo isn't. While Sony and Microsoft keep trying to make their systems about the extra-capabilities, Nintendo is going back to the idea of gameplay first, while still keeping things fresh with new tech, with the Controller Screen seeming like a much better idea than motion controls, which ultimately made me lose interest in the Wii.

But then Nintendo continuously hands off my favorite series to third-party companies that aren't able to hold the standards of the series (Metroid M and Star Fox Command were terrible), or ignores them, such as with F-Zero and console entries for Fire Emblem and Star Fox. I grew up a Nintendo kid. In my opinion, Gamecube was far better than PS2, even in game selection. I used to suscribe to Nintendo Power; I was a fanboy. I really like the Wii U and Nintendo's direction, even if others criticize them. All i'm asking is for Fox, Samus, Captain Falcon, and whoever will be the new Fire Emblem main character to get as much love from Iwata and the company as Mario, Link and Pikachu. Is it so wrong to want to barrel roll in a non-remake on the Wii U?

 

[Arslan Aladeen]

I don't necessarily hate Nintendo. One thing, they have terrible 3rd party support, so the only reason to get a Nintendo system is for their games. And those games have been less and less of a draw for me as time goes on. Couple that with the motion controls that I absolutely hate and the touch screens which seem like little more than a poorly thought out gimmick to me, I just don't feel any hurry to buy from them. I probably will buy the Wii U eventually, but not for a long time, until they have a decent catalog of games.

 

[bz316]

Am I the only one that actually thinks Nintendo is still doing spectacularly well and still generally makes great games?

To answer that question, let me direct you to our beloved Miss Stout:

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/articles/view/comics/critical-miss/9225-Highlanders-Anonymous