Am I the only one the enjoys swearing?

[The Rusk]

Is it just me, or is swearing awesome? And I don't get those people who snootily say "How vulgar!" Words are just sounds and shapes that we use to communicate, how the fuck can they offend you?

That's a very close minded point of view you put forth there. You're basically saying that because of your upbringing, you can't understand why anyone would find swearing offensive. You fail to acknowledge that people are brought up differently, so to others what you deem unoffensive is offensive. And no it isn't up to them to not be offended by what you are saying, it is up to you to acknowledge that some people won't like what you're saying and to watch what you say.

On another note I personally don't mind swearing, but I never swear unless I'm angry or I really want to get a point across. I find that if you swear too much and you're annoyed with someone and want to let them know about it, when you swear it has nowhere near the same effect as it would coming from someone who never/rarely swears.

Something else I just thought of aswell is that, overall, the ladies don't tend to like swearing. It's not an attractive quality.

 

[J-Man]

Calling someone an idiot because they can't express themselves is incredibly snobby and elitist.

I wonder how many times you've seen someone do something stupid and called them an idiot? Look at the Darwin Awards! Maybe they didn't know any better! But still, they should know better, and therefore they are an idiot.

Same goes with speaking. The older you get, the less of an excuse you have.

People have different senses of humour, hardly immature. Besides, who the fuck are you to say what's mature or immature?

You're right in that people have different senses of humour. But that doesn't mean that just because it's a different sense of humour, that it isn't immature.

And swearing all the time, or consistently, doesn't really ooze any brand of maturity I've ever heard of. Maybe it's a special, new, remedial brand of maturity.

And what about swearing with friends? You're just saying words. Swearing doesn't bring attention, the central message of what you say does.

Wrong. Swearing does bring attention. If you're dropping swear words every other word, chances are that people won't really hear the 'central message'. They'll be too busy thinking 'Why does this idiot have to swear so much?'.

Any other pointless and elitist arguments?

My arguments probably are pointless, seeing as you're happy to wallow in the dregs of the English language (Or any language, for that matter).

I more then likely have not convinced you that you sound like a punk from some remedial middle-school, but, to be fair, you haven't offered anything convincing in the way of "this is why swearing is cool/fun/ok!".

I suppose we'll have to agree to disagree.

At least we're both smart enough individuals to not drop to low levels and flame each other.

So, onto the debate.

Yes, calling someone an idiot when they do something stupid is valid, but not because they can't express themselves, that's just a lack of vocabulary.

No, swearing doesn't ooze maturity. Neither does elitism.

If people swear a lot, it becomes just another thing they say, and so you can in fact understand the central message. If I'm having a conversation with someone and they swear a lot, I don't stand there with my mouth gaping open and vacant gaze on my eyes think "sheesh he swears a lot"

Once again, I didn't know the English language had dregs. It's not a beer, it's a language. All words are valid. Yours are, mine are, even David fucking Cameron's are. It's your choice as to how to interpret or perceive them.

 

[Mr0llivand3r]

and you've just proved yourself as a whiny ***** who is afraid to say the word FUCK because you think it will somehow taint your quality as a human being. Maybe you've lived such a sheltered babied life for so long that you think that words hurt. Words don't hurt. They're just words.

You're just too sensitive. you will eventually have to grow up one day and realize that in the real world, people don't care about Baby Tea's feelings. You're supposed to act like an adult... but the word "shit" makes you cry.

if you honestly get offended when people use "bad language", then you stop being so sensitive and you need to realize that this is how people talk. deal with it.

as far as liking to swear, what difference does it make, because curse words do nothing but further enhance the point you're trying to get across in your speech.

i found this video a while back of Jim Breuer on his radio show talking about the uses of the word "Fuck" and it is actually kind of funny. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hf-YRlVVdng

so fuck the fucking pansy pussy douche-fags who don't like fuckin' swearing because those bastards and bitches don't grasp the fuckin' concept of freedom of speech, those cock-sucking shitheads!!!! lol

how's that for excessive swearing?

First of all, I never said I was offended by people swearing. I'm not. I merely said you sound like a complete moron when you do it to excess. Your post above really does nothing more then totally proves that point.
Especially the last paragraph.

they're just words, and words don't hurt.

You sir, are incredibly naive. That is a ridiculous thing to say. Words hurt all the time.

It is your choice whether they could hurt or not.

Except the N word. Anyone saying such a word (including black people) should be punched in the face by the nearest person.

What a delightful double standard!

You won't use the 'N' word because it's offensive (And it makes you sound like an uneducated waste of time). BUT, using your own logic, black people are choosing to be offended, right? So it should be a free-for-all!

if you took the time out of your day to try to combat the topic of this thread to argue your point you were obviously offended.

 

[The Rusk]

they're just words, and words don't hurt.

You sir, are incredibly naive. That is a ridiculous thing to say. Words hurt all the time.

no, they don't, you pussy. it's just a collection of organized sounds interpreted by the brain of the individual who hears it.

words DON'T hurt. and if you think they hurt, how about you call a hardened muscle-head U.S. Marine a "douchebag fucking pansy ****** shithead cockless bastard".

then after he knocks your fucking lights out, then you can evaluate who was hurt more.

Uhh...you just proved the other guys point. If words were merely 'words', as you suggest, then the Marine in question would simple laugh it off, or walk away! But he would be offended! Upset enough, even, to beat someone to a pulp. So either you need a better example, or words aren't just words.

EDIT: Pardon the double post.

Hmm. You said exactly what I was going to say word for word. How peculiar...

 

[J-Man]

Is it just me, or is swearing awesome? And I don't get those people who snootily say "How vulgar!" Words are just sounds and shapes that we use to communicate, how the fuck can they offend you?

That's a very close minded point of view you put forth there. You're basically saying that because of your upbringing, you can't understand why anyone would find swearing offensive. You fail to acknowledge that people are brought up differently, so to others what you deem unoffensive is offensive. And no it isn't up to them to not be offended by what you are saying, it is up to you to acknowledge that some people won't like what you're saying and to watch what you say.

On another note I personally don't mind swearing, but I never swear unless I'm angry or I really want to get a point across. I find that if you swear too much and you're annoyed with someone and want to let them know about it, when you swear it has nowhere near the same effect as it would coming from someone who never/rarely swears.

Something else I just thought of aswell is that, overall, the ladies don't tend to like swearing. It's not an attractive quality.

Where the fuck did I mention my fucking upbrining? I can, in fact, acknowledge people's perceptions of swear words, and like I've repeated a dozen times, it is my intent to notify people they ARE JUST WORDS. It is usually only insecure people who worry or are offended by swear words (sorry for any generalisations).

 

[Mr0llivand3r]

they're just words, and words don't hurt.

You sir, are incredibly naive. That is a ridiculous thing to say. Words hurt all the time.

no, they don't, you pussy. it's just a collection of organized sounds interpreted by the brain of the individual who hears it.

words DON'T hurt. and if you think they hurt, how about you call a hardened muscle-head U.S. Marine a "douchebag fucking pansy ****** shithead cockless bastard".

then after he knocks your fucking lights out, then you can evaluate who was hurt more.

Uhh...you just proved the other guys point. If words were merely 'words', as you suggest, then the Marine in question would simple laugh it off, or walk away! But he would be offended! Upset enough, even, to beat someone to a pulp. So either you need a better example, or words aren't just words.

uhh... actually no i didn't. the marine dude would probably be offended, but he would no doubt brush it off as nothing after a little while. verbal insults are easy to discourage because they have no lasting effect (that is, of course, if the person being insulted is strong enough to realize that it was just words) but when he gives you a black eye and a broken jaw, you're the one who ended up hurt.

have you ever heard the phrase "sticks and stones can break my bones but your words will never hurt me" ?

 

[J-Man]

and you've just proved yourself as a whiny ***** who is afraid to say the word FUCK because you think it will somehow taint your quality as a human being. Maybe you've lived such a sheltered babied life for so long that you think that words hurt. Words don't hurt. They're just words.

You're just too sensitive. you will eventually have to grow up one day and realize that in the real world, people don't care about Baby Tea's feelings. You're supposed to act like an adult... but the word "shit" makes you cry.

if you honestly get offended when people use "bad language", then you stop being so sensitive and you need to realize that this is how people talk. deal with it.

as far as liking to swear, what difference does it make, because curse words do nothing but further enhance the point you're trying to get across in your speech.

i found this video a while back of Jim Breuer on his radio show talking about the uses of the word "Fuck" and it is actually kind of funny. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hf-YRlVVdng

so fuck the fucking pansy pussy douche-fags who don't like fuckin' swearing because those bastards and bitches don't grasp the fuckin' concept of freedom of speech, those cock-sucking shitheads!!!! lol

how's that for excessive swearing?

First of all, I never said I was offended by people swearing. I'm not. I merely said you sound like a complete moron when you do it to excess. Your post above really does nothing more then totally proves that point.
Especially the last paragraph.

they're just words, and words don't hurt.

You sir, are incredibly naive. That is a ridiculous thing to say. Words hurt all the time.

It is your choice whether they could hurt or not.

Except the N word. Anyone saying such a word (including black people) should be punched in the face by the nearest person.

What a delightful double standard!

You won't use the 'N' word because it's offensive (And it makes you sound like an uneducated waste of time). BUT, using your own logic, black people are choosing to be offended, right? So it should be a free-for-all!

No, I'm simply I perceive, and CHOOSE to perceive the N word, as well as others, as offensive. However, it is my CHOICE to perceive these words as such. They are but the summary of years of racism (and not just through words; lynchings, lack of human rights, and don't get me started on anti-semetism). Words like "fuck" are just adjectives, for fuck's sake.

 

[J-Man]

and you've just proved yourself as a whiny ***** who is afraid to say the word FUCK because you think it will somehow taint your quality as a human being. Maybe you've lived such a sheltered babied life for so long that you think that words hurt. Words don't hurt. They're just words.

You're just too sensitive. you will eventually have to grow up one day and realize that in the real world, people don't care about Baby Tea's feelings. You're supposed to act like an adult... but the word "shit" makes you cry.

if you honestly get offended when people use "bad language", then you stop being so sensitive and you need to realize that this is how people talk. deal with it.

as far as liking to swear, what difference does it make, because curse words do nothing but further enhance the point you're trying to get across in your speech.

i found this video a while back of Jim Breuer on his radio show talking about the uses of the word "Fuck" and it is actually kind of funny. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hf-YRlVVdng

so fuck the fucking pansy pussy douche-fags who don't like fuckin' swearing because those bastards and bitches don't grasp the fuckin' concept of freedom of speech, those cock-sucking shitheads!!!! lol

how's that for excessive swearing?

First of all, I never said I was offended by people swearing. I'm not. I merely said you sound like a complete moron when you do it to excess. Your post above really does nothing more then totally proves that point.
Especially the last paragraph.

they're just words, and words don't hurt.

You sir, are incredibly naive. That is a ridiculous thing to say. Words hurt all the time.

It is your choice whether they could hurt or not.

Except the N word. Anyone saying such a word (including black people) should be punched in the face by the nearest person.

What a delightful double standard!

You won't use the 'N' word because it's offensive (And it makes you sound like an uneducated waste of time). BUT, using your own logic, black people are choosing to be offended, right? So it should be a free-for-all!

No, I simply perceive, and CHOOSE to perceive the N word, as well as others, as offensive. However, it is my CHOICE to perceive these words as such. They are but the summary of years of racism (and not just through words; lynchings, lack of human rights, and don't get me started on anti-semetism). Words like "fuck" are just adjectives, for fuck's sake.

Oh, and regarding the first series of quotes, please don't assosciate me with Mr. Ollivander.

 

[J-Man]

Shit, sorry for double post.

 

[The Rusk]

Is it just me, or is swearing awesome? And I don't get those people who snootily say "How vulgar!" Words are just sounds and shapes that we use to communicate, how the fuck can they offend you?

That's a very close minded point of view you put forth there. You're basically saying that because of your upbringing, you can't understand why anyone would find swearing offensive. You fail to acknowledge that people are brought up differently, so to others what you deem unoffensive is offensive. And no it isn't up to them to not be offended by what you are saying, it is up to you to acknowledge that some people won't like what you're saying and to watch what you say.

On another note I personally don't mind swearing, but I never swear unless I'm angry or I really want to get a point across. I find that if you swear too much and you're annoyed with someone and want to let them know about it, when you swear it has nowhere near the same effect as it would coming from someone who never/rarely swears.

Something else I just thought of aswell is that, overall, the ladies don't tend to like swearing. It's not an attractive quality.

Where the fuck did I mention my fucking upbrining? I can, in fact, acknowledge people's perceptions of swear words, and like I've repeated a dozen times, it is my intent to notify people they ARE JUST WORDS. It is usually only insecure people who worry or are offended by swear words (sorry for any generalisations).

I know you didn't mention your upbringing, but it's because of your upbringing that you maintain your point of view that swearing can't be offensive seeing as they're just words. Other people's upbringings will be different, and a lot of people would have been taught that swearing is offensive. I don't think you got the point of what I was saying.

As for the insecure part, I'd agree that some people who find swearing offensive might be insecure. But I'd also say that people who constantly swear are often percieved to be insecure aswell, if not more so.

 

[Ubuntus]

Yes I generally to enjoy some moderate swearing from time to time. I only consider swear words as a strong way to express you self. Tough swearing just to swear is something I leave to other people. I remember one time in High school were a used a "swear word" to described a person. My teacher got really upset and told me too stop, we broke hell lose and started a month long discussion about freedom of speech. I was essentially backed by my old teacher which was more old and wise than the new one. He told me that the word i used wasn't even a swear word but a recognized adjective.

 

[J-Man]

Is it just me, or is swearing awesome? And I don't get those people who snootily say "How vulgar!" Words are just sounds and shapes that we use to communicate, how the fuck can they offend you?

That's a very close minded point of view you put forth there. You're basically saying that because of your upbringing, you can't understand why anyone would find swearing offensive. You fail to acknowledge that people are brought up differently, so to others what you deem unoffensive is offensive. And no it isn't up to them to not be offended by what you are saying, it is up to you to acknowledge that some people won't like what you're saying and to watch what you say.

On another note I personally don't mind swearing, but I never swear unless I'm angry or I really want to get a point across. I find that if you swear too much and you're annoyed with someone and want to let them know about it, when you swear it has nowhere near the same effect as it would coming from someone who never/rarely swears.

Something else I just thought of aswell is that, overall, the ladies don't tend to like swearing. It's not an attractive quality.

Where the fuck did I mention my fucking upbrining? I can, in fact, acknowledge people's perceptions of swear words, and like I've repeated a dozen times, it is my intent to notify people they ARE JUST WORDS. It is usually only insecure people who worry or are offended by swear words (sorry for any generalisations).

I know you didn't mention your upbringing, but it's because of your upbringing that you maintain your point of view that swearing can't be offensive seeing as they're just words. Other people's upbringings will be different, and a lot of people would have been taught that swearing is offensive. I don't think you got the point of what I was saying.

As for the insecure part, I'd agree that some people who find swearing offensive might be insecure. But I'd also say that people who constantly swear are often percieved to be insecure aswell, if not more so.

Alright. I concur with most of that.

 

[curlycrouton]

I tend to avoid swearing, as it makes me sound like a retard, but I can condone it when:

(a) It's funny (but appropriate)
(b) It can't be helped (like breaking a leg, for example).

Otherwise, I really can't see the point, it's just stupid. Anyone who just swears in a situation like this:

"Oh mate, I just fuckin' talked to somebody"

"What about?"

"Fuckin' car insurance".

My respect immidiately drops for that person.

 

[The Rusk]

Oh, and regarding the first series of quotes, please don't assosciate me with Mr. Ollivander.

Haha that made me chuckle. Its nice to see that you're actually wanting to debate this topic properly, rather than just trying to annoy people like Mr. Ollivander here.

 

[Baby Tea]

if you took the time out of your day to try to combat the topic of this thread to argue your point you were obviously offended.

Oh that's right! Thank you SO much for telling me how I feel.
Oh wait.

No, I'm not offended. I joined in the topic because I agreed with a previous poster, and decided to voice my own opinion (Like everyone else in this thread...and that's the 'opinion' part, not technically the 'agreeing with a previous poster' part).

At least we're both smart enough individuals to not drop to low levels and flame each other.

So, onto the debate.

Yes, calling someone an idiot when they do something stupid is valid, but not because they can't express themselves, that's just a lack of vocabulary.

No, swearing doesn't ooze maturity. Neither does elitism.

If people swear a lot, it becomes just another thing they say, and so you can in fact understand the central message. If I'm having a conversation with someone and they swear a lot, I don't stand there with my mouth gaping open and vacant gaze on my eyes think "sheesh he swears a lot"

Once again, I didn't know the English language had dregs. It's not a beer, it's a language. All words are valid. Yours are, mine are, even David fucking Cameron's are. It's your choice as to how to interpret or perceive them.

You know what I like about this post? You were articulate! You only swore once, and it was completely unnecessary!

Look, I'm not saying that all swearing should cease immediately. It can be very fitting when you're angry, upset, hurt, etc. But in regular conversation, it's just flat out not needed.

Like I said earlier, we more then likely won't be convincing each other of anything in this thread. I don't think you're an idiot, or a 'bad person' or anything like that, and I think we really will have to agree to disagree. I don't want to progress these quote threads into a flame-war, or personal attacks (Even though we've already dipped our toes in THAT pool a little bit).

Fair enough?

 

[Ionami]

they're just words, and words don't hurt.

You sir, are incredibly naive. That is a ridiculous thing to say. Words hurt all the time.

It is your choice whether they could hurt or not.

Except the N word. Anyone saying such a word (including black people) should be punched in the face by the nearest person.

I'm sorry, but that bullshit about "You can choose whether or not to be offended by something someone does or says" is ridiculous. If someone does something to offend you, you have every right to be offended.

 

[Ionami]

they're just words, and words don't hurt.

You sir, are incredibly naive. That is a ridiculous thing to say. Words hurt all the time.

no, they don't, you pussy. it's just a collection of organized sounds interpreted by the brain of the individual who hears it.

words DON'T hurt. and if you think they hurt, how about you call a hardened muscle-head U.S. Marine a "douchebag fucking pansy ****** shithead cockless bastard".

then after he knocks your fucking lights out, then you can evaluate who was hurt more.

Get off the roids, jackass. You're a moron, and your posts constantly reflect that.

 

[The Rusk]

they're just words, and words don't hurt.

You sir, are incredibly naive. That is a ridiculous thing to say. Words hurt all the time.

It is your choice whether they could hurt or not.

Except the N word. Anyone saying such a word (including black people) should be punched in the face by the nearest person.

What a delightful double standard!

You won't use the 'N' word because it's offensive (And it makes you sound like an uneducated waste of time). BUT, using your own logic, black people are choosing to be offended, right? So it should be a free-for-all!

if you took the time out of your day to try to combat the topic of this thread to argue your point you were obviously offended.

It's not a question of being offended. The point of this thread is to merely debate different points of view, and if someone sees a point of view that conflicts with their own then they are entitled to argue their case. Stop trying to annoy people.

 

[J-Man]

if you took the time out of your day to try to combat the topic of this thread to argue your point you were obviously offended.

Oh that's right! Thank you SO much for telling me how I feel.
Oh wait.

No, I'm not offended. I joined in the topic because I agreed with a previous poster, and decided to voice my own opinion (Like everyone else in this thread...and that's the 'opinion' part, not technically the 'agreeing with a previous poster' part).

At least we're both smart enough individuals to not drop to low levels and flame each other.

So, onto the debate.

Yes, calling someone an idiot when they do something stupid is valid, but not because they can't express themselves, that's just a lack of vocabulary.

No, swearing doesn't ooze maturity. Neither does elitism.

If people swear a lot, it becomes just another thing they say, and so you can in fact understand the central message. If I'm having a conversation with someone and they swear a lot, I don't stand there with my mouth gaping open and vacant gaze on my eyes think "sheesh he swears a lot"

Once again, I didn't know the English language had dregs. It's not a beer, it's a language. All words are valid. Yours are, mine are, even David fucking Cameron's are. It's your choice as to how to interpret or perceive them.

You know what I like about this post? You were articulate! You only swore once, and it was completely unnecessary!

Look, I'm not saying that all swearing should cease immediately. It can be very fitting when you're angry, upset, hurt, etc. But in regular conversation, it's just flat out not needed.

Like I said earlier, we more then likely won't be convincing each other of anything in this thread. I don't think you're an idiot, or a 'bad person' or anything like that, and I think we really will have to agree to disagree. I don't want to progress these quote threads into a flame-war, or personal attacks (Even though we've already dipped our toes in THAT pool a little bit).

Fair enough?

Hey, this is why I love the escapist. It's basically online bohemia.

Can I make my side clear? I appreciate swearing at suitable times (not around children), and when it can be used to fit in with a dialogue. Other times, it can be used for humorous effect (http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=XdJAgjOLLYw), and finally it can be repetitively used showing a lack of vocabulary (Ollivander). Most importantly, it is people's choice how to perceive words.

Non-offensive for me:

fuck
shit
twat
etc.

offensive for me:

n word
kike
paki
etc