I dislike almost all Asian games, and most of their cars, too, now that I think about it... Damn ricers. I like Hitman: Blood Money (that is Asian, right?). I also like Mazda vehicles. Besides those exceptions, everything else doesn't really interest me.
Am I the only one who doesn't like Asian games?
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Or, perhaps, he genuinely doesn't like any games to come from Asia and thus doesn't like Asian games, just like if he didn't like platformers saying how he doesn't like platformers.DarkRyter said:
I think too many people on this forum jump to hidden meanings that are probably never meant in the post and shout discrimination.
Umm... I still don't get it. Asian games often do have an "Asianness" about them. It's a pretty well-known fact that the culture of a person comes across in the art they make. While perhaps not all Asian games have this kind of cultural undercurrent, such a majority do that it's acceptable to generalise.DarkRyter said:
And not liking an art-form cannot be racist. For example, I absolutely loathe traditional Indian and Pakistani music (which makes it kinda hard for me living in an area where people blast it out of car stereos all the time). That doesn't mean I dislike Indian and Pakistani people.
You are not the only one. But I bet you haven't played some of the better ones.
If you only like shooters then ok--but if you like games with actual depth then the Japanese can deliver. If you have any taste for the twisted or the bizarre, the Japanese integrate that into their games better than anyone.
If you only like shooters then ok--but if you like games with actual depth then the Japanese can deliver. If you have any taste for the twisted or the bizarre, the Japanese integrate that into their games better than anyone.
...dagens24 said:
So much wrong with this post.
1. DMC takes itself seriously? It is intended as an incarnation of the rule of cool, it basically does **** cause it's ****ing awesome.
2. It's rather obvious you're going on preference here since your named game series are rather highly regarded. Granted there are polarizing games (and an outright obviously bad one) in both series but saying it's bad as opposed to you didn't like it, back-up please?
3. How can you seriously think that you can account for the breadth of all japanese games? Each person is unique, and each game is comprised of a different development team. It's fine if you say that cultural mindset creates barriers to being successful in these types of games as long as you defend it (the effect of cultural baggage on media is an interesting discussion). When you say "can't" it's an overly broad generalization that doesn't take into account individuals and boarders on racism.
How the hell can you not like any games made by Asians?
I guarantee you've played and enjoyed at least one game made by an eastern developer.
It's pretty much impossible not to.
I guarantee you've played and enjoyed at least one game made by an eastern developer.
It's pretty much impossible not to.
At first I was going to be all snarky and reply to this thread with just "No." But your three sentences express so clearly, in such detail, both every little dislike, and positive view I have for Japanese games. Brilliant. Just, brilliant. Very groovy stuff brohamian, well done!dagens24 said:
That's our requisite 'we hate CoD because it's stupid lol' comment, only four comments in.Duffeknol said:
It was inevitable.
To be fair, Japan does happen to be in Asia so Japanese games would, by definition, be Asian games.tthor said:
When you use the term 'Asian' it can include Japan (just like you could technically call things from China, Korea, Russia, Mongolia, India and many, many other countries in the Asian continent 'Asian', they're Asian countries) so unless I missed a recent meeting where they declared their independance from the continent of Asia then the use of the word 'Asian' in the OP isn't really that out of order or inconsiderate (just like we can use the term 'European to blanketly refer to stuff from France, Germany, Britain, Spain, Poland etc.).
Back on topic however, I personally do like quite a few games from Asia/Japan (Drakengard, Dead Rising, Metroid Prime and many others) but at the same time I can understand why the overtly Japanese games don't tend to be very well recieved over here (it's probably for the same reason I bet a lot of western games don't do very well over in Japan, the general public there just isn't that into them and finds them hard to get into them).
You're right. Having one say that they don't respect certain aspects of other peoples' culture is completely racist.AdumbroDeus said:
I don't know about you brohamious, but I don't see a single phrase along the lines of "I hate asians" in Dagens' post (nor mine for that matter). Hell, you yourself state you have a fixed opinion by saying Devil May Cry is "intended as an incarnation of the rule of cool, it basically does **** cause it's ****ing awesome" etcetera. Maybe there are some people who -don't- find that slow-motion gravity-defying sword-to-bullet stuff cool. Maybe there are guys who find watching virtual JDAM strikes cool, or digitally flying in Flight Simulator cool, or taking on the virtual role of a SWAT officer in the field of duty.
I personally prefer those sorts of things to the -generalized- format of Japanese games. Is there uniqueness? Yes there is. Are all Japanese games the same? No, they're not. But Dagens' specified:
"In summary; silly, goofy, light-hearted Japanese game = good. Serious, anime non-sense = baaaaad."
So does his not liking Final Fantasy or whatever turn him into a racist? Anywho, my kettle's going off, so I won't be able to reply--feel free to respond and 'win' the conversation while I'm away, I'm not keeping score.
OP: oh, for the love of...
People have different tastes. The video game industry has created several genres over the years, in the same way literary genres have sprouted up after people realized they enjoyed hearing about this or that or wanted to explore a specific theme or another.
Ergo, no, you are not the only one who doesn't have a yen for your rather improperly defined and frankly stereotypical category of games.
Like others in this thread, I'd tell you to look for stuff such as the House of the Dead series, Bayonetta, MadWorld, Shadows of the Damned or Devil May Cry. You'll get a bucketful of gore with these titles, if that's what you're looking for.
What everyone's trying to tell you is that Japan's production doesn't limit itself to the sort of stuff Hayao Miyasaki might churn out. It's not all cutesy-poo with ready-made plots about plucky princesses needing to be saved for the nth time by a portly Italian plumber whose lexicon is limited to onomatopoeia.
And believe me, Super Mario Galaxy may be cute in its design, but some of the later levels are extremely brutal. As in "Hardcore Gamer" brutal. You're depriving yourself of a rich facet of the gaming culture by assuming that there's nothing worth exploring outside of whatever Western splatter-fests you might enjoy.
Of course, that's subject to personal preference. Try one of the above (including the Metroid Prime series), and you'll realize that juicy Western titles like the God of War series aren't without their fair share of inherited influences from a handful of fairly bugnuts Japanese productions.
We wouldn't have Kratos without Simon Belmont having been around in the first place. It's that simple.
People have different tastes. The video game industry has created several genres over the years, in the same way literary genres have sprouted up after people realized they enjoyed hearing about this or that or wanted to explore a specific theme or another.
Ergo, no, you are not the only one who doesn't have a yen for your rather improperly defined and frankly stereotypical category of games.
Like others in this thread, I'd tell you to look for stuff such as the House of the Dead series, Bayonetta, MadWorld, Shadows of the Damned or Devil May Cry. You'll get a bucketful of gore with these titles, if that's what you're looking for.
What everyone's trying to tell you is that Japan's production doesn't limit itself to the sort of stuff Hayao Miyasaki might churn out. It's not all cutesy-poo with ready-made plots about plucky princesses needing to be saved for the nth time by a portly Italian plumber whose lexicon is limited to onomatopoeia.
And believe me, Super Mario Galaxy may be cute in its design, but some of the later levels are extremely brutal. As in "Hardcore Gamer" brutal. You're depriving yourself of a rich facet of the gaming culture by assuming that there's nothing worth exploring outside of whatever Western splatter-fests you might enjoy.
Of course, that's subject to personal preference. Try one of the above (including the Metroid Prime series), and you'll realize that juicy Western titles like the God of War series aren't without their fair share of inherited influences from a handful of fairly bugnuts Japanese productions.
We wouldn't have Kratos without Simon Belmont having been around in the first place. It's that simple.
The issue is stereotyping what people of that culture are or are not capable of doing. That IS racist, no two ways about it, and that's why i made a point of drawing the distinction between what japanese games commonly are because of their culture and what japanese games can be. Looking down on other cultural groups is as much racism as fear or hatred.UnderCoverGuest said:
As far as devil may cry, I never implied that you should love it. Just that if you think it's intended to be serious you're off your rocker.
Except that our good meatheaded original poster claimed to prefer rated M- bloody, massacres. A game type that is no short supply from Japan, and wrote off all games from japan as cutesy Marioesque platformers. So yes, he should be called out on this.cookyy2k said:
Yes, you are absolutely alone in your belief, there is exactly nobody with whom you can relate, get used to your despair.
Seriously, stop with the AITOO threads.
Okay, actual answer, no you're not the only one, though I will say that you aren't going to find many like that at the escapist.
Seriously, stop with the AITOO threads.
Okay, actual answer, no you're not the only one, though I will say that you aren't going to find many like that at the escapist.
